Where Spydercos Fall Short

I wanna play....consider that I just bounced around the internet for 20 minutes checking this, 20 minutes I wont get back.

Spydies are the only ones that publish edge length - everybody else sticks with blade length.
There is about a 1cm difference in each spydie between their published blade length, and published edge length
if you add that back on, using blade length equally across the boards of your samples - your spydie ratios jump up to between 0.409 and 0.437
which puts them right in line with everybody else

on that note - I dont care for the look of spydies, so i'm not a fan boy
but i do like my tenacious as a tool
 
I suppose Spyderco could come up the a folder that has a 50/50 handle to blade length ratio , of course the tip would likely damage flesh that accidentally protruded a hair between the liners. They could name this new model , You'll Cut Yourself . :)
 
Another way to think about it...

I want a knife with a 4" blade. I look on the shelf and there's a Spyderco Military, BM Crooked River, and an Al Mar Eagle... all with 4" blades.

The Military is 9.5 inches overall, with 5.5 inches of handle...
Crooked river dresses out at 9.3" overall, with 5.3 inches of handle...
And the Al Mar goes 9" even, with a 5" handle.

I'll take the one that gives me the blade real estate I need and takes up the least amount of space in my pocket.

Looks like the Eagle has landed at Vel's house!
 
I have done a ton of wood carving with a Native5. A full size handle with a shorter blade is a recipe for power, control and safety. When used hard and holding in the choil there is something very confidence inspiring about the Native5's grip for me.

This is just one example but my point is that depending on the task at hand there is more than one recipe that works.
 
l1ranger said:
I wanna play....consider that I just bounced around the internet for 20 minutes checking this, 20 minutes I wont get back.

Spydies are the only ones that publish edge length - everybody else sticks with blade length.
There is about a 1cm difference in each spydie between their published blade length, and published edge length
if you add that back on, using blade length equally across the boards of your samples - your spydie ratios jump up to between 0.409 and 0.437
which puts them right in line with everybody else

on that note - I dont care for the look of spydies, so i'm not a fan boy
but i do like my tenacious as a tool
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But if you take the edge length from those other knives too you're back where you started.
 
OK, which of these two knives is going to do more cutting? Ignore the differences in steel type.
Which of these two knives is going to cut bigger things?
Which of these two knives has the index finger closer to the cutting edge for more control?
Which uses less room in the pocket?
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Spyderco Delica is not designed to cut big things, so that comparison perhaps is not so persuading to most people. In pocket, they will likely feel the same size, or one could even argue that the Delica feels smaller because it is lighter.
 
sharp_edge said:
At times the length of the cutting edge does make a difference. Try cutting cardboard with a Dragonfly and then a Military you shall know it. Oh well, I know you knew it, or you were just talking about opening envelopes.
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I've done both and the Military wins! Of course, then I've also cut cardboard with knives like the Urban, Delica and Chaparral and they've somewhat outperformed the Military, despite the fact that all have significantly shorter blades.

Heck, box cutters are literally made for cutting cardboard and have a much shorter edge than the Military, but cut it much more easily!

I actually cut a lot of cardboard and I've found geometry and ergonomics are the key features for that particular task. Cardboard is hell on an edge, but as long as the knife is long enough to span the stuff, I don't find blade length matters much at all.
 
Their lineup is so varied and diverse that there is something for everyone.

They won't be going out of business any time soon so they must "fall long" in other categories for many people.

A lot of those models with blade ratios some complain about have been bestsellers for decades LMAO boohoo
 
Aldebaran said:
OK, which of these two knives is going to do more cutting? Ignore the differences in steel type.
Which of these two knives is going to cut bigger things?
Which of these two knives has the index finger closer to the cutting edge for more control?
Which uses less room in the pocket?
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DelicavsCH3001closed.jpg
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Which knife has been a bestseller since 1992?
Which knife probably won't even be remembered to have ever existed in a few years?
Why do people keep buying that damn Delica?
 
Stays Sharp said:
A lot of those models with blade ratios some complain about have been bestsellers for decades LMAO boohoo
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Stays Sharp said:
Which knife has been a bestseller since 1992?
Which knife probably won't even be remembered to have ever existed in a few years?
Why do people keep buying that damn Delica?
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Bigbobg said:
According to Sal, Spyderco's are designed for the hand not the eye. They seem to sell them as fast as they can make them.
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I realize that they are all very good and popular knives. Never tried to claim otherwise. Hell, I have a Delica myself. But does that mean the Delica or X design by Spyderco is perfect? Can they not be improved on?
Of course they make damn good blades, but believe they can do even better and I hope they do in the future.
 
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