Who Would Be Interested In Doing A Collaboration Classic Hunter With Me??

I emailed Michael and asked him to shoot us a drawing or two of a more basic design such as a Loveless drop point with a big ricasso and full grind. I think we need to keep it simple and elegant because there are quite a few people working on it and will have the best chance of perfection doing what we do best. This is not a good time to go through any learning process for us. Someday I would love to go for the "all out subhilt fighter" with Dan and you guys. Lets see how we do on the drop point first.

I really like Dans handle design (remember w/o the sub hilt)
A thick blade will give us a wild distal taper and drastic tapered tang.
The jade is too cool and with Dans 1/4" drilled and tapped dowels it will be easy to take apart even with the jade liners.
I think the file work should be minimal and on the blade only not in the handle area
Nickel silver, 416 ss or Sterling Silver for the guard or bolsters. Sterling is my favorite plus it goes good with gold if I get the plating unit. I know it scratches easy but this knive will never get bloody and even if it does it will be pretty!
 
Okay. I'd say better figure on closer to 4 inch lengths of jade, right? I know its alittle early yet to have it cut but I need to let John know some sort of an approxamate so he can verify its availability. What say?

DAN, my MSC guy explained to me that diamond tip bits will sit there and just squeek. It takes a special manufacter that allows the diamonds to grind cut it. Its hard-hard. John says it will grind on a wheel. I am going to ask him again about belts. Pop's may be able to get me some made up for my hor. edge grinder (either 1 X or 2 X 48). I'll ask john about ceramic and about blue z.

RL
 
Now we're getting some good direction. I like what I hear -- simple, but elegant.

I say unless you hear otherwise, go with what you've got on the jade -- it's never too early to get started. :)
 
Michael, You and Bruce get us a profile. Give Dan and me handle dimensions. Dan can give me bolster and rear bolster lengths and I can let our good buddy John out of the gate. I say rear bolster only because I still wonder about having such a thin margin of jade around a thong hole. I need to email Bruce again. Michael, carry on. Thanks. I know you and others have been at this hard.

RL
 
well I've brought up making a solid front
finger Guard/hilt many times here
and asked yes or no? and no body reply's, ??:confused:
but bolsters are always mentioned so being a hard head
I finally take it that
we're going with bolsters front and rear :)
loosen up guys speak your mind :D

yes I agree Bruce if we get to complicated it going to be at
the least time consuming. I get carried away at times.

if you guys will post what we have so far I can put a list up on the net
for all to see, what's what and who??
I can edit it as we go putting the pictures up as it progresses.
what you say guys good bad ??:confused:
 
Here's a few different full-size sketches. I went on the assumption that we were bolstering front and back, but that can be changed easily. Let me know if these designs are working -- It was tough to offset the one inch of ricasso in such a short knife. I hope my designs are working for you guys -- I don't want to be disappointing you guys with them. Let me know what you think, what needs to be tweaked, changed, adjusted, trashed, or rearranged.
 

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Michael Thanks for the drawings. I like the center one allot. When we only had 5or6 makers names to put on the ricasso I thought we could make a Fowler sized one but now That we are 10 strong I say to shorten up the blade to 4" and hardly any ricasso. I can put the names on the blade. Anybody see it this way too?

Here is what I have, please add or clarify it. I know Its not complete

Michael: design and profile

Dan: bolsters, ivory

Steve: blade finish

Jay: sheath

Roger: HT

Nick: damascus

Bruce: names engraved

John: Jade

Dave: Blade grinding and regrinding after HT

Dan Koster: certificate

Help me complete this list guys.
 
I go with Bruce's idea about the list and the design. I'm just the jade section of this creation, my 2 cents worth. Michael, you have some really great designs and ideas.Roger and I are getting the jade end figured out.
 
I might add, puting the bolsters over top of jade is maybe asking for a fracture of the stone. I assume you gentlemen are figuring on butting the bolsters up against the ivory and jade, the standard way?
 
Thanks John, Yes the bolsters need to be attached metal to metal. This will shorten up the jade and give better rigidity to the handle.
 
Michael I like the middle one too, but it sounds like it's time to adjust the ricasso again. :D

Bruce, I'm grinding this baby.

Dave
 
Yeahup

I'm with Bruce
this is interesting to say the least:)

yes John the ivory profile has to be profiled to the jade
and if the jade can't be ground then that means the
tang will have to be profiled to the jade.
if this all is the case the jade profile
has to be right when cut (front back and profile.)

I was charged with the Ivory :D
and somebody got me into the bolsters/Hilts I think,
for as many guys we have here on this project
I'd like to see who is or wants
to do them maybe one on the front and one for the rear.

I'm willing to help anyone that has questions
about what their doing.

I'll see if I can post the list on a web page and keep it up dated.
my memory isn't what it use to be:)
 
A couple of things -- it would be interesting to put the names along the spine on both sides. Another thought -- I don't know how the gold etch works, but we could also widen the bolster and put the names on those. (I don't know if that would work or not.)
 
Thanks for the updatable list Dan. We need to nail down that design so Nick knows what size steel to make. Michael again give us a modified design of that middle one with a regular sized ricasso and a 4" blade.

Words of wisdom: "If we fail to plan...We plan to fail"

I must have woken up phyishophical this morning
 
Here's Burchtree's design. I traced over it with Fireworks:

knifeproject.jpg


Sorry I don't have mammoth or jade patterns so it is not exact, but maybe this helps.

I also make a large and small ricasso version.

Steve
 
OK, so now we are talking bolsters. No problem! I thought we were talking liners yesterday. No problem. what ever you gents decide is good with me. I'm just gonna kick back and let you fellas figure out what needs to be done, then I get to play with the jade. One other question, I can get all the blue jade we need, and already have some very dark cobalt blue stuff, which may be too contrasting for matching the ivory. My suggestion is a good blue jade. Any advice or suggestions to this old Indian is welcome. You fellas are coming up with some very fine designs and ideas. Steve, I really like those pics!
 
John,

Don't jump to a conclusion here. I think you're right - liners.

Oh dang. Hey guys what's it to be?

Is this right?


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Steve
 
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