Who's excited for #47 Viper?!

Congrats to you gents who swooped up the ivorys....Pics requested to drool over :)
 
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I was at the website earlier and saw at least one elephant ivory available. Decided I'd let it or them for you guys. :D Honestly I just spent about $2K on some bills and it was not a good time to be ordering a knife.
 
Looked yesterday for the Elephant Ivory version and did not see them. This morning I thought I would take a look just in case and there they were. Got my order in and then this afternoon I looked back to see how many were left and saw that they were gone! Man they went fast, glad I got mine! Steven
 
AL903TX said:
Thanks for the answer Mr. Bad. Well i sure hope i dont get a 2nd for the price they are at. I wonder if Derrick will be selling the 2nds, and if so how will he determine who gets the 2nds. Maybe the last 3 people to order will lol??? Thats my best guess
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You won't get a second, don't worry. It would be described as such and discounted. KSF is a top notch outfit.
 
Yeah, I got on last night, and while I was filling out my order (about 2 minutes), the Ivories went from 20 to 15.

Indeed they did go fast. Starting to feel lucky just to get one.

My first ivory.

Thanks Derrick...terrific looking knife.
 
I think that ALL of the scale options are fantastic and are really good looking.
I wasn't excited about the Viper till I saw it, and once I had it my hand I wasn't going to leave without it.
It really is a winner. I think everybody that gets one will feel the same.
I look forward to seeing the photos and hearing about them.
 
Yea your right, i should've known better then to doubt Derrick and his crew, as that is where i got my 1st GEC and my 1st Sebenza from. They really are top notch!
mr_badexample said:
You won't get a second, don't worry. It would be described as such and discounted. KSF is a top notch outfit.
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Out of interest -what constitutes a second with ivory? No doubt the knife would need to be fully functional to leave the factory so cosmetic blemishes or what? ivory sometimes has those brown marks in it or fissure lines but I think those would add to the character. Are we talking cracks ?
This is a purely academic question as I have buckleys of getting one sent to OZ.
cheers.
BTW indian paint brush spoke the loudest to me. I like that they resurrect the older(for GEC) bone colours and patterns .
 
meako said:
Out of interest -what constitutes a second with ivory? No doubt the knife would need to be fully functional to leave the factory so cosmetic blemishes or what? ivory sometimes has those brown marks in it or fissure lines but I think those would add to the character. Are we talking cracks ?
This is a purely academic question as I have buckleys of getting one sent to OZ.
cheers.
BTW indian paint brush spoke the loudest to me. I like that they resurrect the older(for GEC) bone colours and patterns .
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That's a really good question that i was wondering myself. From what i understand about ivory is that it already has some sort of natural marks due to the age. So my guess would be that the 2nds would have to do with the fit and finish of the knife might be slightly off??? Just taking a guess here.
 
meako said:
Out of interest -what constitutes a second with ivory? No doubt the knife would need to be fully functional to leave the factory so cosmetic blemishes or what? ivory sometimes has those brown marks in it or fissure lines but I think those would add to the character. Are we talking cracks ?
This is a purely academic question as I have buckleys of getting one sent to OZ.
cheers.
BTW indian paint brush spoke the loudest to me. I like that they resurrect the older(for GEC) bone colours and patterns .
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Meako I'm not sure about ivory. I have been told all seconds have a cosmetic blemish of some sort.
I had a bone handled knife that had cracks around one of the pins. They were small and stable. Much like you might find on a knife that has been around for years. I have another in bone that has a small pin head sized inclusion on the edge of the scale near the butt of the knife. And another in wood that has some small inclusions on the one scale. All stuff that I view as character. Otherwise all the knives are functionally perfect and have the typical excellent fit and finish we've come to expect from GEC.

Brian
 
GEC knives sold as "EDC Knives" are not Seconds. Seconds never, or rarely, leave Titusville. The EDC Knives are called "Store Only" by the Factory, meaning they are only meant to be sold from the Factory Store. They are marked with an S on the tang. The true Seconds, I have been told, are hideous and only go to Factory employees as beaters. All this might or might not be true for SFO's. They all belong to the Purchaser of the SFO, and that person can call them anything they want. I would assume what Derrick calls a "second" is what the Factory calls a "Store Only" and dealers call an "EDC".
 
meako said:
Out of interest -what constitutes a second with ivory? No doubt the knife would need to be fully functional to leave the factory so cosmetic blemishes or what? ivory sometimes has those brown marks in it or fissure lines but I think those would add to the character. Are we talking cracks ?
This is a purely academic question as I have buckleys of getting one sent to OZ.
cheers.
BTW indian paint brush spoke the loudest to me. I like that they resurrect the older(for GEC) bone colours and patterns .
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The ones I carry--

One has a crack through a pin.
One has a place in the front where the ivory evidently chipped out a little on the scale side.
Two have places where they buffed a little too long on the bolster and it took part of the arrowhead off (barlow)

Those are what I carry. I haven't seen "S" models. I can only speak of the ones that I get that have a "2" on them. None of them have been too bad. When you do a SFO you buy the whole batch including the seconds. When you supply the ivory, you cry a little with each second. :)
 
okbohn said:
The ones I carry--

One has a crack through a pin.
One has a place in the front where the ivory evidently chipped out a little on the scale side.
Two have places where they buffed a little too long on the bolster and it took part of the arrowhead off (barlow)

Those are what I carry. I haven't seen "S" models. I can only speak of the ones that I get that have a "2" on them. None of them have been too bad. When you do a SFO you buy the whole batch including the seconds. When you supply the ivory, you cry a little with each second. :)
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I bet you do! I picked up a single blade Pemberton straight from GEC in Elephant Ivory (no where near as nice as yours Derrick) that was a second, crack slanted across back, not marked, but they told me going in. Steven
 
That sounds a little harsh okbohn, having to pay for knives that aren't as good (looking) as they should. Especially with expensive handle materials.
 
I have a Hayin Helper "second" with a letter S on the tang of the secondary pen blade. I got it from Mike at Collector Knives during his Black friday sale a little over a year ago, and for the life of me cannot find a thing wrong with it. Comparing it to three other Hayin Helpers I purchased that weren't marked with the S, I can't tell a difference. Blades are well-centered, w&t is the same as the others, and takes and holds a great edge.

Perhaps my case may be an exception, but based on my one sample, I'd have no problem buying another.
 
At the Oregon Knife Show last year Charlie had a couple "seconds" of his Charlows there and I couldn't for the life of me find the flaw.
 
sogflash said:
That sounds a little harsh okbohn, having to pay for knives that aren't as good (looking) as they should. Especially with expensive handle materials.
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Nope. Just part of the SFO world. You just have to factor it in at the beginning. With a great company like GEC, there are never very many.

Besides, it is the only way Wendy will ever let me get my paws on an ivory knife.
 
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