whose warranties cover unintentional abuse/breakage?

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Thomas Linton said:
Dude, you already said Strider is the only brand for you. All other knives are mere "toys" in comparison. Is that truly likely to be tested? Really?
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Sal Glesser said:
If you want someone to break your new Strider scientifically, I´m your huckleberry
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Our german knife magazin did a test and comparision between an AR and an Extrema Ratio fulcrum.

Allas they changed every parameter so there was no real chance to compare the result to tests made earlier.

I sometimes think, those thick knifes are only tested one to another but not to a thinner, just to avoid the customer to think about price / performance.

Guess, if the thick knife is just 25 to 50% stronger in resistance against breakage but needs 200% $ and guess, the force to be needed to break a thinner knife is high compared to relative weight of us humans, would you still buy, i mean, with reason?
 
Aniketos said:
I wish you would test a real strider folder
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Why would I buy a knife when the maker has said it doesn't have the performance I want, to check and see if he is wrong. That seems kind of silly. What about if he is right, now I just wasted $300+ .

-Cliff
 
Cliff Stamp said:
There are lots of different types of each, Spyderco has folders with locks which are much more secure and strong than Striders.The Strider blades are much stronger, but it takes little force to break the locks so it isn't a functional gain.

-Cliff
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This is wrong.
The german knife magazin "Messermagazin" did a destruction test with a GB and a ER Fulcrum II folder. They tested the edge geometry, edge retention, edge holding and measured the forces needed to drive the knives through a steel plate by a hydraulic press. They also tested the pivot and lock up strengh by applying force with the hydraulic press. The GB won this test, the liner lock took much more force ( 80 bar) than the strong lock back of the ER folder. Also the overall performance of the GB was better.

This test proofed the strengh of the GB under scientific conditions. They didn't just whack the knife on concrete, they tested and documented carefully, and let speak the facts for themselves.

Reading through your posts I think you don't understand much about knives...
 
BlackShark said:
The GB won this test, the liner lock took much more force ( 80 bar) than the strong lock back of the ER folder.
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First ER isn't Spyderco, second, liner locks are unstable under torques, not vertical loads. This is even in the FAQ.

-Cliff
 
Come on Barry, I challenged you to prove your assertions, back them up, site the references.

If you really want to read a biased review, check out "a fair and unbaised review" on the USN.

A JEB knife is taken apart by work far more abusive than what I did to the WB and the praise of course comes hot and heavy.

So I am in bed with Spyderco now too, man I am a popular guy. Does anyone know of any attractive *female* knifemakers - I would like to branch out.

-Cliff
 
I love the forums, but somtimes I'm amazed that there can be seven+ pages talk, hundreds if not thousands of hours of time, and if everyone was payed by the hour, thousands of dollars spent in discussing this, but no one stepping up to find out out one way or the other.

So I'd be willing to put up $20 to buy a Strider and have Sal break it for us. That means we probably need another $480. Plus they's replace it right? Then we could sell it and recoup the initial knife cost.

Who's with me?
 
Question is Dave, if the above plan is carried out. If Strider marks the underside of the scale, does that have to be disclosed at the time of the sale? Should it effect the price on the aftermarket? After all, if you have a problem with breakage in the future and they see the marked scale, they could refuse warranty repair and your not getting the same value as the original purchaser :confused:
 
I think it will work out fine, as if somone is a Strider fan, they'll believe they'll not break, so if it's marked non replacement, it won't matter to them.
 
I'll put in $100, and a Chinook II, so we can have them tested side by side and show how the "toy" compares to the Strider.

-Cliff
 
Cliff, I don't always agree with you but that's a very cool pledge. Thanks.

Ok prices from the web site $350 for an AR or GB, plus $100 (I think) for Sal to break 2 knives (Strider plus chinook) for a total of $450

Me -> $20 (I'd put in more but I've already spent my allowance 2 months in advance)
Cliff -> $100

So we're around $330 away from our "Bust a Strider Goal", just think of the entertainment value AFTER such a test is run! There would be controversy for MONTHs if not YEARS afterwards!

Aniketos, if we raise the money would you act as the buying agent? I honestly don't know the best place to get one.
 
Cliff Stamp said:
I'll put in $100, and a Chinook II, so we can have them tested side by side and show how the "toy" compares to the Strider.
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Wow.
You don't just talk the talk, do you?

FWIW - I like the look of Strider Knives (SnG anyone?)

Some of our knife makers are characters in their own right.
I can't see Sal being quite as assertive (let's say) as Mick's chosen fashion; they're different people.
 
DaveH said:
... if we raise the moeny
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You might want to reset this in a new thread, it is really heavily buried in this one.

It would also be a major hassle for me to buy the Spyderco, have it shipped here, then back to the US, so I can just paypal the funds for it as well .

I would assume all the Strider fans would be just rushing to get this done to show just how much the Strider locks blow the compression and back locks from Spyderco out of the water.

You should have the money in no time.

soa said:
You don't just talk the talk, do you?
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No, I am not the type of person you want to be making wild performance claims around.

I like the looks of several Strider blades, the PAB with a full flat grind in A8 with a decent Kirk style handle would be a nice work knife.


-Cliff
 
GB vs. ER scientific tests can be found here:

http://usualsuspect.net/forums/showthread.php?t=34090&highlight=gb+test

Sledgehammer Pics can be found here:

http://usualsuspect.net/forums/showthread.php?t=32640&highlight=sledgehammer

Having owned Spydercos, Benchmades, and other various knives, I whole-heartedly confide in Strider Knives. I would never doubt my SnG or Smf's locks, blades, or overall performances for a second. Strider is just a higher level of craftmanship, and although you pay significantly more, I think it's worth it.

I own both a Chinook II and SnG/Smf and have no doubts that the Strider would outperform it.

I sent my SnG to the shop a couple weeks ago to get sharpened and inspected, and without me even asking they replaced the pivot for free (I had scratched it while tightening). As long as you don't go out and "ruin it for everyone" as Sal said, Mick will treat you with kindness and respect.
 
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