Why am I so different in what i want a folder to do?

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colubrid said:
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Nothing worse than spending an afternood trying to shapen a supersteel because i used it to cut through boxes, drywall or hammered them at work.
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Working at sharpening would help. I can take a ZDP-189 saber ground blade, turn it into a full convex blade, and then turn that into a hollow ground blade, all in an afternoon. That's changing the primary grind, let alone the absurdly easy task of changing the tiny, narrow little edge. I agree that there would be few things worse than being a knife-enthusiast who's so inept at this most basic of knife enthusiast's skills that a twenty minute (at most) job would spread across an entire afternoon, but fortunately I've never been in that boat.

You want something in H1 steel, clearly. So, find yourself a knife made out of H1. Or, find a maker (you've been provided with at least one) who works with cobalt or talonite as they'll yield similar performance for your purposes, and he or she can make you precisely what you want; although if you actually want anyone to work with you I suggest you drop the whiny, easily-exasperated tone or you'll likely discover that a lot of them are "too busy" to take on a project right now.

As to why everybody else doesn't think like you, that's a mystery that most of us struggle with to some extent. Of course, most of us have stopped freaking out about it by the time we're seven or eight years old. I wish you luck in your quest.

Yours from the humid South, surrounded by a large collection of non-stainless knives, guns and tools that haven't a speck of rust on them.
 
unit said:
This makes zero sense...but I'm not surprised, because we both know what you are doing here.

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Really? Because i have no idea what i am doing here?

It is a knife forum. People who are bored come here to waste time reading talking about how to cut things and stuff to get away from their real life.
 
t1mpani said:
Working at sharpening would help. I can take a ZDP-189 saber ground blade, turn it into a full convex blade, and then turn that into a hollow ground blade, all in an afternoon. That's changing the primary grind, let alone the absurdly easy task of changing the tiny, narrow little edge. I agree that there would be few things worse than being a knife-enthusiast who's so inept at this most basic of knife enthusiast's skills that a twenty minute (at most) job would spread across an entire afternoon, but fortunately I've never been in that boat.

You want something in H1 steel, clearly. So, find yourself a knife made out of H1. Or, find a maker (you've been provided with at least one) who works with cobalt or talonite as they'll yield similar performance for your purposes, and he or she can make you precisely what you want; although if you actually want anyone to work with you I suggest you drop the whiny, easily-exasperated tone or you'll likely discover that a lot of them are "too busy" to take on a project right now.

As to why everybody else doesn't think like you, that's a mystery that most of us struggle with to some extent. Of course, most of us have stopped freaking out about it by the time we're seven or eight years old. I wish you luck in your quest.

Yours from the humid South, surrounded by a large collection of non-stainless knives, guns and tools that haven't a speck of rust on them.
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WOW! All afternoon? That is all? That is amazing!
 
colubrid said:
Really? Because i have no idea what i am doing here?

It is a knife forum. People who are bored come here to waste time reading talking about how to cut things and stuff to get away from their real life.
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I think you know EXACTLY what you are doing here.

Every post you make is making your thoughts and ideas more clear;)
 
t1mpani said:
Yours from the humid South, surrounded by a large collection of non-stainless knives, guns and tools that haven't a speck of rust on them.
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Oh mine don't have any either. Not the ones I don't use because they are surrounding me instead of being used like they should be.

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colubrid said:
However a high end hard use H1 knife that is user freindly would sell.
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they do sell, they're called the Salt knives.

No need to take them apart because you can completely rinse them out worry free.

I understand what you want, but I don't think there is much of a market for it.

I wonder if maybe you can swap the h1 blade onto a g10 Delica/endura handle?
 
colubrid said:
You guys are that thick headed?
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I guess all of the knife companies, and everyone here is but you.

I live in the same state as you, am 52, and have used knives alot my whole life. I don't have problems with rust.

I have several customs that i like alot. Some not all that expensive. Maybe you should have you one made with H1.
 
goodeyesniper said:
I wonder if maybe you can swap the h1 blade onto a g10 Delica/endura handle?
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basically the salt 1 is the Delica and the pacific is the equivalent to the endura. They are just teh rust free counterparts without the liners and they use a ti pocket clip and H1 rivits.


I think a lot of us here have outgrown the Delica and endura a long time ago .





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I am just saying i want to see something better than a salt. Something with screws, rustfree, with some titanium and easy to sharpen called a "maintenance free knife". However... with all teh bells and whistles the cool stuff has.
 
When in the kitchen, I use a kitchen knife......with a cheap disposable plastic cutting board. Everywhere else I use a pocket knife. Most of which are super steels and I live in Miami close to the ocean. I've never had a problem with rusting.

And the easy to sharpen part. While the super steels do take a little longer to sharpen, they hold an edge better when used properly.
 
Reading this thread I feel like I'm watching someone argue with themself. :confused:
 
I think your WAY over exaggerating the rust problem you "have". I've had carbon steel knives go through the washer, sit outside in rain/snow, that kind of stuff and have never had anything worse than a few small spots of surface rust.

Also, its not all that hard to change the oil on modern cars and trucks...
 
blame it on god said:
And the easy to sharpen part. While the super steels do take a little longer to sharpen, they hold an edge better when used properly.
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obviously you don't use your knives. Everyone knows you have to slam your edge into marble counter tops, and then throw your knife in the grass for a week to REALLY be using it.

I want a marble proof, wet grass proof knife, preferably one that can handle a lot of cheese cutting without exploding.
 
Ken44 said:
I guess all of the knife companies, and everyone here is but you.

I live in the same state as you, am 52, and have used knives alot my whole life. I don't have problems with rust.

I have several customs that i like alot. Some not all that expensive. Maybe you should have you one made with H1.
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My point is a lot of pople are afraid to use their knives. if you were in bed thinking you dropped your Emerson in teh grass while using it in teh yard during the day you would jump up out of bed or have a rusted knife in the morning.

oh and i bet yu take extra special care not to get your knife wet. Like if you back pocket carry you remove your knife before dring long distance with it. Or constantly wiping it down. or afraid to drop it into the dishwasher.

See it is not just about living in the south or humid condition. Or wanting to take the knife in the gym still in your pocket. It's all these things and a host more. We just learned to take care of our supersteel knives and i think the market could stand a different approach instead of creating all these new steels with maybe a new color blue or purple grip. That is getting kinda old IMO.

That a single manufacturer could see the benifits of making a knife as truly "maintenance free' Take the best of what others have to offer like Emerson screws that you can open with a dime and make it strong a pretty like a seb or strider. All these things combined make it a user feindly knife.

Otherwise just keep using the kicthen knives like most of you do. I want a knife i can use to have fun with it. Not because I need it.
 
goodeyesniper said:
obviously you don't use your knives. Everyone knows you have to slam your edge into marble counter tops, and then throw your knife in the grass for a week to REALLY be using it.

I want a marble proof, wet grass proof knife, preferably one that can handle a lot of cheese cutting without exploding.
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yeah using a knife to cut a tomatoe on a plate is abusing the knife with the super steel. Exactly my point I am trying to make. Thanks for bringing it cystal clear so everyone can undertand.

I mean leaving your knife in your backyard lawn or cutting with it on a dinner plate is just knife abuse. No $800. should have to be put through that abuse.
 
Doesn't the Salt series now use screw construction? I seem to recall the change about a year ago.

Regarding outgrowing the salt series...I think most have outgrown irresponsible knife behavior.
 
goodeyesniper said:
. Everyone knows you have to slam your edge into marble counter tops, .
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SLAMMING it! Such knife abuse will cost you lost of time on sharpening stones. These hard use supersteel knives are not meant for such use and abuse.
 
colubrid said:
My point is a lot of pople are afraid to use their knives. if you were in bed thinking you dropped your Emerson in teh grass while using it in teh yard during the day you would jump up out of bed or have a rusted knife in the morning.
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some of us are too busy working our knives hard to worry if they get a few spots and stains here or there. My carbon steel folders get submerged in mud and water, get used to cut wet sod, go on long rainy bike rides, and then spend hours in my wet clothes before I dry them off. they cut midnight snacks of meat, cheese and fruits and aren't washed until the next day, and yes, sometimes they are forgotten outside in the elements for a few days.

you know what happens? I keep using them. life goes on. they might look slightly weathered, but they are just as easy to upkeep as an h1 folder.
 
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