Why do office people freak?

Sometimes it just takes standing up to whomever is in charge out in Personel. Oh exuse me, human resourses.

From 1980 untill 1997, when they shipped our jobs to Mexico, I worked for a large corporate type place that made most of what went into thier high tech communications gear they made for the U.S military. A defense contractor. I was a machinist in the fabrication shop.

Around 1984 or 5 ish, they came down with a strict no weapon policy that included knives. Zero knives, period. Thank God we had a boss with some cajones.

Our round stock, brass, aluminum, stainless steel, came off the truck in 10 or 12 foot bundles taped together with that fiber strand re-enfored tape. Banded together at each end and the middle. Being from a mill, the stock was greasy, dirty, and the tape was greasy and impregnated with dirt and grit. The only way to get a length of, say 3/4 round stock to go to the lathe section, was slide a knife blade under the tape and cut. It was wrapped in several thinknesses of tape.

Our boss, Gene, said enough of this bull hocky. He told us to stop work, and he got the head of human resourses to come back to the shop. A very modern yuppy lady named Ms. Gorham.

Well Ms. comes back and Gene askes her how we are supposed to get the stock free without a knife. The Ms. looks around and says use sissors. Gene hands her a pair of sissors and says to show him how. Well, like I said, the several wraps of tape are right down on the metal, so the modern Ms. can't get a sissors under it, and after a few moments of her fumbling around, Gene takes out his Buck 301 stockman and slices right through the tape. He has the cajones to tells Ms. that without a sharp knife, work is going to be very slow coming out of the machine shop because the guys use a knife two dozen times a day. . Like not getting done. Modern Ms. goes and rewrites the rules on knives to allow fabrication personel to have a pocket knife.

Then the Ms. has a heads together with the jerk that was the head of plant security, and they re-write the re-written regulations so the fabrication personel can only have a knife with a 2 inch blade or less, and no lock on the blade.

We had to settle for a partial victory, some knife was better than no knife.
 
I blame the lack of a real imagination. The only thoughts and ideas that most people have are the ones that are implanted by media. People are not really afraid of knives. They are afraid of people. IF they had the imagination to picture everyday items as weapons, it would be worse. Personally, I see a chair as the most dangerous everyday weapon. The problem is it does not instill fear. Blood instills fear...and even more hypovolemic shock (losing enough blood to lose consciousness and die). People are afraid of themselves and their own limited imagination pointing at what they are exposed to by the media.
 
The whining is pretty thick around here. You'd think a bunch of tough, knife carrying men wouldn't come off sounding like a bunch of schoolgirls who got caught smoking cigarettes in the bathroom.

We loves us some knives around here. But the bottom line is that we're all a bit weird about it, in the eyes of non knife nuts. That's just reality. We need to get over it. If you are a knife nut, you are going to be marginalized in proportion to your nuttiness. Think of it this way. In the eyes of most folks, you are just like the guy who dresses up like Darth Vader and goes to Star Wars conventions. Not that there's anything wrong with that. ;)

If you're going to be thin skinned about your persecution, that only makes you look more like a freak. We shouldn't expect the world to conform to our collective knife fetish.
 
While I haven't worked in an office environment, my fiancee does. I used to visit her all the time at work, and would often find people asking for something sharp to cut open a box, or an envelope, or some other minor tasks. I'd often lend a hand with whatever knife is on me at the moment, ranging from tiny traditional knives to some modern day, more tactical pieces. Haven't really ever had a problem with any office workers, actually. Even gifted a Buck 309 to one of the guys who retired.

Now, as for my coworkers at the apparel store, I've had a couple issues. When I first started, we were given these dinky box cutters. You know the ones with the orange handles and the spring to keep the blade closed. Those things were dull as butter. As a stock monkey, I need a sharp knife that'll go through hundreds of boxes without needing much more than a touch up at times. So, because of this, I tossed aside the box cutter and would bring out something with a wharncliffe or sheepsfoot blade, since they excel at opening boxes.

Anyways, seems as though the boss didn't like seeing me whip open a knife while I'm working, and since I wasn't in the mood to argue, as I just started, I would sit in the back before work and touch up those crappy box cutter blades with an Eze-Lap Fine stone. Well, the boss comes by and asks me what I'm doing, and I explain to him that if I can't use my own knife, I might as well sharpen up what we got.

He got to seeing that I'm harmless with a knife, so he let me get back to using my own knives. The other coworkers are so used to seeing me tackling boxes and touching up my knives in the back that they don't even blink an eye anymore. It's kind of nice.
 
We shouldn't expect the world to conform to our collective knife fetish.

Sure we should.
We are no less a minority than gay folks, and the world conforms to them.
Same with many religious denominations.
If others want me to accept them, then they must accept me.
And if they cannot, then they can piss off.:cool:
 
From watching liberal media and signing on to zero tolerance policies. Zero tolerance and common sense cannot co-exist.:mad:
 
From watching liberal media and signing on to zero tolerance policies. Zero tolerance and common sense cannot co-exist.:mad:

More likely is the fact that we live in an urban society where most tools see very little day-to-day usage.
We buy our food from a store, and can get it already cut into bite-size portions if we're lazy enough.
Many guys don't even seem to own a toolbox anymore.:confused:
No need for politics to enter the discussion this time folks; it's all about prevalence of use in society in general.
 
im glad my boss & his wife both carry swiss army knives, so they dont care that i carry my kershaw scallion or shallot.
 
i alway thought the type of knife should be appropriate to the environment you are in.sheeple settings take sheeple friendly knives for general use and public display.also private companies can make more restrictive rules than the law.in this economy would you rather have the job and a lower key knife or no job and a knife that scares sheeple?
 
Our society is ruled my a liberal minority, that's just the way it is. Yes, urban sprawl is part of it.
 
I was born in the city in the mid '60s, raised in the 'burbs by educated, liberal parents, went to one of those hoity-toity liberal colleges and have worked for close to 20 years in offices. Started collecting knives in Cub Scouts, carried a knife to primary and secondary school, college and work.

I have never had anyone say anything to me that seriously suggested they were threatened by the presence of my knife. Where are all these people?
 
I was born in the city in the mid '60s, raised in the 'burbs by educated, liberal parents, went to one of those hoity-toity liberal colleges and have worked for close to 20 years in offices. Started collecting knives in Cub Scouts, carried a knife to primary and secondary school, college and work.

I have never had anyone say anything to me that seriously suggested they were threatened by the presence of my knife. Where are all these people?


They are pretty much wall to wall down here.........

We need to send you a bunch of them. ;)
 
This all came about when fat, divorced, humorless women at the office - who are incredibly unhappy and miserable at their station in life - thought it would be swell if everyone at the office were unhappy too.

So they started b*tching about everything conceivable in the workplace. Its what psychologists call transference. And their spineless, metrosexual male bosses acquiesced and did not tell them to shut up.

So now, normal people are forced into a defensive posture every time fatty goes ballistic when a tiny Vic Executive is deployed on a manila folder. And it all started when no one told her to shut up in the first place.

Sometimes the truth hurts. But facts is facts.

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AMEN AMEN AMEN!!!! :thumbup:
 
I was born in the city in the mid '60s, raised in the 'burbs by educated, liberal parents, went to one of those hoity-toity liberal colleges and have worked for close to 20 years in offices. Started collecting knives in Cub Scouts, carried a knife to primary and secondary school, college and work.

I have never had anyone say anything to me that seriously suggested they were threatened by the presence of my knife. Where are all these people?

there's about 1 million+ here in the Lower Mainland of BC! :grumpy:
 
If you cant carry a knife at work, just start taking a poisoness snake to work with you. Not much of a tool but much more deadly. Where I work just about everyone carries a knife to work ( I work in a bicycle store) and many of our customers come to us to get knife information. 3 of us are actually making our own knives now and do much of the fabrication at the store
 
I had someone mention something like that to me. Once. I took them into the break room, opened the drawer, took all the knives out (some over 10 inches), then put my Caly 3 next to them.

They felt pretty stupid.

:thumbup: Outstanding:)
 
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