Why do shirivo bear knives so expensive??

Sharp & Fiery said:
Im not saying they are built to have lockslip...im saying they are built to engage the lockup further when being used. And without lockstick then the bar needs released. Also, i have not conceded to the fact that Shiro’s may have slip, and im also not saying that they dont until i can check myself. (I kinda hope they do, so i can get some more shiros when people get scared and start selling them off cheap!) ;)
Im generally not a fan of super early lockup either. Now, lockslip is only an issue if the blade fails in real world use. If you grip the shiro in a regular grip, the lock will engage further and slip will not happen.
Make sense? We are still friends. :)
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No animosity, just disagreeing :)

I often use kind of a pinch grip on knives that puts little or no inward pressure on the lockbar...I rarely use a tight hammer grip. Of course the D'Allara I'm carrying today isn't a frame lock, but you can see what I'm talking about.

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WillB said:
Short answer per usual is, cuz they can. Longer answer is always the same, what the market will bear which depends on usual variables as why X costs more than Y and each person having to decide where the law of diminishing returns kicks in for them.

No knife better represents than the Loveless I have for sale. No lack of knives as good for a fraction of the cost, but history, availability, provenance, etc are a variable to perceived value.
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Well, given that that knife hasn't moved since June, when it was posted, I'd daresay that you're asking too much. Additionally, you may want to renew your Gold membership, because right now, you technically are not authorized to sell that knife here.
 
Quiet said:
Well, given that that knife hasn't moved since June, when it was posted, I'd daresay that you're asking too much.
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I don't recall commenting on other peoples prices for an item considered good form here, and it's also none of your damn business. Thanx.
 
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WValtakis said:
No animosity, just disagreeing :)

I often use kind of a pinch grip on knives that puts little or no inward pressure on the lockbar...I rarely use a tight hammer grip. Of course the D'Allara I'm carrying today isn't a frame lock, but you can see what I'm talking about.

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You mean like this? ;)
Im just pushing your buttons. ;) I understand where you are coming from...question: in a pinch grip...where would you used that hold while cutting in a tight enclosed space? Or where a whack may be imminent?
 
WillB said:
I don't recall commenting on other peoples prices for an item considered good form here, and it's also none of your damn business. Thanx.
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Did you slip and hit your head in the shower this morning? You called attention to that thread yourself, and the link to it is right in your sig. Good form? Good form is following the rules. Sorry, not sorry that you're mad that I pointed out that your knife is overpriced (which is why it hasn't sold). :)
 
Quiet said:
Did you slip and hit your head in the shower this morning? You called attention to that thread yourself, and the link to it is right in your sig. Good form? Good form is following the rules. Sorry, not sorry that you're mad that I pointed out that your knife is overpriced (which is why it hasn't sold). :)
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Not aware of a rule broken, but if so, mods can and should get me on track. You on the other hand can go F yourself. Done with this thread.
 
WillB said:
Not aware of a rule broken, but if so, mods can and should get me on track. You on the other hand can go F yourself. Done with this thread.
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Sounds to me like the one who can take a walk is you. Good luck getting someone to send you six grand, Mr. 400 posts in 12 years. LOL

"I flew AAALLL THE WAAAAAYYYYYY to BLADE to talk to a guy at the Loveless booth". What a laugh. I bet your arms were tired when you got there.
 
WillB said:
Not aware of a rule broken, but if so, mods can and should get me on track. You on the other hand can go F yourself. Done with this thread.
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You're advertising a knife for sale, both here in this thread and in your signature without a current gold membership (which is required to sell here)...how is that not breaking the rule? :confused:Don't worry, it's been reported so I'm sure it will get taken care of soon.
 
Its true that grasping the knife and holding the lockbar will keep it from closing,but shouldn't it still stay locked if somehow your not gripping it hard enough? A Sebenza would never close that easily nor would a Zaan.I like early lockup too but ive seen some so early they are hanging on by a thread...
 
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goldie said:
Its true that grasping the knife and holding the lockbar will keep it from closing,but shouldn't it still stay locked if somehow your not gripping it hard enough? A Sebenza would never close that easily nor would a Zaan.I like early lockup too but ive seen some so early they are hanging on by a thread...
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What i mean is...after you have used it...the lockup is further in and it shouldnt fail a spinewhack or push or whatever. When i get home im gonna check this out. But im sure ive tried the two hand pressure already. Ill double check. :)
 
Sharp & Fiery said:
What i mean is...after you have used it...the lockup is further in and it shouldnt fail a spinewhack or push or whatever.
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And what we're saying is, you shouldn't have to worry about that with a frame lock. They've taken a very reliable lock concept as designed by Chris Reeve and compromised it for the sake of flipping action :)
 
WValtakis said:
And what we're saying is, you shouldn't have to worry about that with a frame lock. They've taken a very reliable lock concept as designed by Chris Reeve and compromised it for the sake of flipping action :)
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Possibly compromised it. It still hasnt been proven. Its heresay at the moment.
 
Blues Bender said:
If pressure on the edge from use causes the lock to push further over then the lock and tang aren’t fit correctly. This is a flaw, not a feature :rolleyes:
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Pressure on the edge doesnt...hand pressure from your grip moves the lockbar over.
 
I think we are getting off topic...but i do like the discussion.
Im just stating how the lockbar works on a Shiro. Im not saying they dont slip, just that I wont argue that they dont slip until i check for myself, or see proof that they do.
 
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I have developed a strange mental image of a man spine tapping a Shirogorov knife at a knife show... just saying.
 
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