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Why doesn't anyone make knives that compete with Cold Steel?
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I was curious, so I stabbed my Caly3 through a piece of cardboard, and it survived. So I took a risk and tried stabbing it through 2 layers, and miraculously, it survived that. Then I got really crazy and tried 3 layers. Still good. I'm not going to try 4 though. That's just plain stupid.
I have no doubt as to the outcome of a fish if I used it to hammer a nail. But then, a fish isn't intended to hammer nails, nor is the Manix 2 designed stab car hoods, pry, or anything stupid like that. Spyderco makes knives that excel at doing things normal people do with knives, not what mall ninja armchair commandos think/hope they'll ever do with them.
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Speculation, please stop being silly and or trolling.
Huntbomb, could you fill me in on what exactly it is about the current Recon-1 and Voyager knives themselves that make them embarrassing to the knife community?
Also why all the hate toward any company. I have not talked down any company in this thread other then to say that some don't meet my personal preference. Why are some of you so emotionally charged by Cold Steel? I don't claim to be in the know but when I went through SWAT school one of the instructors was a guy who had just left active duty with the SEALs and he recommended the recon-1 as a good reasonably priced knife that won't break your heart if you lose it or destroy it. Now I didn't feel like I knew him well enough to ask what he did with it but I just kinda figured he may know what he's talking about.
This is funny though, typically I have been more interested in firearms and Cold Steel seems to take the place of Glock in these discussions, allot of people seem to have an unhealthy dislike for them. And for the record I'm not a Glock guy.
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I think most people that do have any kind of hate on for Cold Steel just don't like their marketing practices. There actually aren't that many people who actually think their products aren't good quality. Cold Steel does a great job with AUS8, and their cheap products are great. I think a lot of their stuff is way overpriced, but the stuff on the cheaper end of things is very good value, IMO. But for whatever reason, Cold Steel always incites all kinds of emotion. Seriously, start any kind of Cold Steel topic, and it's gonna get to at least 5 pages by the end of day.
I'm kinda surprised to hear you say that about Glock. Most of the people I know who like firearms recommend Glocks as being their favorite type of handgun.
I'm kinda surprised to hear you say that about Glock. Most of the people I know who like firearms recommend Glocks as being their favorite type of handgun.
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Just look at this tip on this Spyderco! Would you say it's "paper thin"?
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I'm starting to question the maturity level of a few of you, of course it's speculating! Almost everything contained within this thread is bound up in speculation, however some speculation is more likley to prove out as fact then others. I posted two photos you might "speculate" about!
THIS has been a most entertaining thread, and I only clicked on it by mistake! But after reading about Spyderco's being good ONLY for making sandwiches, I knew I had to read it all. Far as the OP's question goes, I don't think there is another company that offers what Cold Steel does, in the price range, with the exception of Spyderco. I have never been a real fan of Cold Steel and though I had some, I got rid of them. Not because they were/are bad knives, they just don't fit what I look for when I buy a knife. There are a lot of folks here that have CS knives and that swear by them, and not at them. But they are not my cup of tea. OP, the Spyderco Resilience appears to be a knife that fits your requirements. It does have a liner lock, but Spyderco is one of the production masters of this lock. A certain knife seller on the internet allows the customers to post reviews, and after 26 reviews this knife has 4.5 out of 5.0 stars.
Now for the entertainment, I suggest that some folks who are stirring the pot with ridiculous statements should either take them up a notch, just to see how utterly ridiculous they are, or simply get off the subject and back to the original intent of the thread. Though very entertaining I would prefer the latter option.
We all like knives or we would not be here. Just because we do not all like the same knives should not be a bone of contention, even with a hot topic like Cold Steel.
Now for the entertainment, I suggest that some folks who are stirring the pot with ridiculous statements should either take them up a notch, just to see how utterly ridiculous they are, or simply get off the subject and back to the original intent of the thread. Though very entertaining I would prefer the latter option.
We all like knives or we would not be here. Just because we do not all like the same knives should not be a bone of contention, even with a hot topic like Cold Steel.
I'm going to jump in here and put my 2 cents in. I carry at least one folder with me everyday,everywhere I go. I own at least one folder from every major manufacturer(Cold Steel,Spyderco,SOG,Gerber,Kershaw,Buck,Case,Emerson,ZT,etc.) My CS is a first gen large voyager tanto that has been regularly abused and the only failure is it lost it's pocket clip at some point(it now wears a Spyderco clip) I have several Spyderco's I like to carry,in 15 years or so I have broken the tip on one Endura and it was my fault for prying with it.If I know i'm heading into a hard days work where maximum strength is likely to be needed,I grab my thickest folder(Emerson Commander or Buck/Strider Tarani) For EDC carry I will grab whatever suits my taste and size envelope for the day's apparel.If I'm going to be in the office all day,I grab a SOG Twitch or Kershaw Leek,if I'm going to be onsite but not actually "working" something a little heavier still does the trick(SOG Spec Elite 1 or my CS Tanto) If I'm headed to the woods I rarely carry a folder and opt for a fixed blade.Unfortunately in my area and in many situations it's just not feasible to carry a 4-6"fixed blade everywhere,all the time or I would and never even touch a folder. Point being there is no one "magical all purpose,all things to all people,knife for every reason and season" that's why there are so many maker,patterns,steels, etc. We all need something different for the tasks we face in our daily lives,and to fit our personal tastes,etc. The debate about hard use is almost pointless,because what constitutes regular use to me might be seen to you as abuse or the next guy as light use.... Bottom line,find a knife you like and are comfortable carrying and PAYING for (or 3 or 4 or 50) and match what you are carrying to what you plan to be doing. Same with guns
oh yeah and BTW as for these desktop diva exotics,you bet your ass if I'm going to lay out $500 for a pocket knife,I'm going to get $500 worth of use out of it.I don't understand this rational either.I was on another forum a bit ago where nearly every responder to "what would you take on a week long canoe trip?" said they would leave their high dollar blades at home so they wouldn't get messed up.Then what the hell did you pay all that money for if you're not going to use it in the very situation you were thinking about when you bought it? Are you waiting to whip out your Busse when zombies attack or Al-Queda knocks on your door? Damn people use your tools!
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Just look at this tip on this Spyderco! Would you say it's "paper thin"?
I'd say it's not a manix 2, or that it has been ground down a bit after chipping. You might look at my photos for an actual look at the thin tip of the manix 2....
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I suspect you never had or handled one? The tip is plenty strong for normal utility use, unless we redefine utility use as repeated stabbing into car hoods...
Now that's meaningless, and ridiculous...
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There is no "we". And there was no name calling, just sayin.
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I am pretty certain that there is a huge difference in dead weight being applied to a lock and shock force being applied to a lock. The Manix 2 as the rep said perhaps could hold 1000 lbs of pressure ( I dont know ). For instance 15 pound fishing line could in no way handle 15 pounds of dead weight suddenly applied to it, it probably couldn't even take a 5 pound weight. I dont think that the test in the vice is in anyway qualified to judge the ball lock holding 1000 pounds dead weight. JMO I am not a physics expert.
weren't we talking about Cold Steel, not other members and why they are wrong about their favorite companies? relax bro, no need for argument here. Each major brand name can be better than the other, for different reasons. And plus, your a new member here, so even if you mean well, anyone can misinterpret something typed on a public page. Unless you are legitimately trying to argue with people, I suggest you just ignore the people you are dissagreeing with before your reputation goes downhill quick. Nothing sucks more than getting a bad reputation in a community right in the beginning, even if you didn't intend to. I'm just trying to keep the peace, its all good.
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No it's not a Manix 2, it's a Spyderco folder though and my point is Spyderco makes thick and thinner pointed knives, because sometimes you want a choice.
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I did not see any pics of you cutting cardboard with a Manix. Im gonna speculate you do not know what you is talkin' bout'!
Sorry that's my maturity showing through.
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This thread is about Cold Steel? I thought it was about Spydercos and their weak tips.
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