Why doesn't anyone make knives that compete with Cold Steel?

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Tim, I hear what your saying but I only own an original Voyager ($50), a new Voyager ($40), a Recon-1 ($48), a carbon-v SRK ($70), a Gerber Metolius ($25), and an Emerson CQC-15 ($175). A grand total of $408. Problem is each of these knifes serves a different purpose and if I went with your plan I'd only have one for everything. Plus even with my CQC-15, as lame as it is I don't want to use it hard, whereas if I kill my $48 Recon-1 I can get another without it stinging too bad. Plus my wife's a stay at home mom (wouldn't want it any other way) and I have 3 kids in private school. Only so much money can go for knives. I have no doubt those knives are outstanding though.
 
jedi391 said:
Tim, I hear what your saying but I only own an original Voyager ($50), a new Voyager ($40), a Recon-1 ($48), a carbon-v SRK ($70), a Gerber Metolius ($25), and an Emerson CQC-15 ($175). A grand total of $408. Problem is each of these knifes serves a different purpose and if I went with your plan I'd only have one for everything. Plus even with my CQC-15, as lame as it is I don't want to use it hard, whereas if I kill my $48 Recon-1 I can get another without it stinging too bad. Plus my wife's a stay at home mom (wouldn't want it any other way) and I have 3 kids in private school. Only so much money can go for knives. I have no doubt those knives are outstanding though.
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Oh if you own like 5 knives I wasn't referring to you then, I'm talking these people who have like 20+ $50 folders when they won't justify the purchase of CRK meanwhile I'd rather have 3 CRK's then 25 production folders... that sorta deal.
 
For the record as the OP and a guy who had only posted here once or twice before all I was asking was why other companies didn't offer knives with similar specs at a similar price point as Cold Steel. Basically I was looking for other alternatives I may have missed out of curiosity. I never thought all this bickering would result. I still don't understand why it has, but from someone new to this community it's intersting to see how you all treat each other.
 
Tim616 said:
Bout time people graduated from buying tons of $50 knives and started buying a few 400+ dollar knives so they understand what an actually true crafted piece of cutlery is
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if I had money to throw away I would do that but my $50 knife works fine for cutting things....I would rather use that $400 to stock up on ammo and get a new gun....in the real world people have priorities and are not in $1000 knife snobbery fantasy land.
 
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I looked for alternatives recently and CRKT locks don't seem as strong and all the blades I could find were sub-4 inch blades. Kershaw was the same deal. Gerber and Buck had some options that were close like the Omni Hunter, but it's allot heavier and there's no pocket clip. I am a fan of the CQC-15 which is close to 4 inches but I wish it wasn't a liner lock, and I can't justify more then one at a time since they're so pricey. Am I just missing a bunch of knives that are out there?
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I love my Cold Steel American Lawman and Hold Out II. They are excellent knives and at a decent price point. You mention the Emerson CQC15, yet I've owned many knives from different brands and the only company I wouldn't waste $ on again would be Emerson. I swore off buying any folder that did not have a Triad Lock, but once I handled the Folding Razel I knew I had to have one. I absolutely love it. Excellent ergos, lockup is solid, and the build quality is very, very good for a knife I paid $30 for. Also, look at Boker. I love Chad Los Banos's designs, especially the Trance. You might find something there. There are very good deals out there. Sometimes you won't or can't know if you'll like a knife until you handle it. It's hard these days because there are not many stores selling quality knives that you can handle in-store unless you're lucky enough to live close to one. Get a knife you feel can handle most of the tasks you'll use it for and you'll be ahead of the game.
 
Tim616 said:
Oh if you own like 5 knives I wasn't referring to you then, I'm talking these people who have like 20+ $50 folders when they won't justify the purchase of CRK meanwhile I'd rather have 3 CRK's then 25 production folders... that sorta deal.
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That makes sense....I agree.
 
jedi391 said:
I never thought all this bickering would result. I still don't understand why it has, but from someone new to this community it's intersting to see how you all treat each other.
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The words "Cold Steel" tend to incite divisive viewpoints. Most of it revolves around their "aggressive" marketing, their novelty items, and the perceived lack of value in their more expensive, premium items. If you ignore those points there's not a whole lot to argue over besides personal preference.
 
jedi391 said:
For the record as the OP and a guy who had only posted here once or twice before all I was asking was why other companies didn't offer knives with similar specs at a similar price point as Cold Steel. Basically I was looking for other alternatives I may have missed out of curiosity. I never thought all this bickering would result.
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Cold Steel is the knife equivalent of mentioning abortion or gay marriage or religion in a politics forum. Strong opinions are given, tempers flare, and battles rage. There's probably more closed threads on this forum with "Cold Steel" in the title than any other topic.
I still don't understand why it has, but from someone new to this community it's intersting to see how you all treat each other.
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Threads like this can bring out the worst in us, myself included. I'm not proud of it. Welcome to the internet.
 
wow, all this time I had no idea I needed to spend $400 to get something finely crafted! My poor sub $100 custom must feel so inferior!
 
crom said:
wow, all this time I had no idea I needed to spend $400 to get something finely crafted! My poor sub $100 custom must feel so inferior!
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Sub 100 dollar custom...

The raw materials for one of my customs alone would have been well over 100. What kind of blade steel and handle material do you get for a custom at waffle house prices?
 
Yep, Cold Steel threads are always good for some strong opinions. For my part, I wasn't even trying to make a strong opinion, or make tempers flare, or take the thread off-topic. I was just hoping to prove that the Manix 2 could stand with Cold Steel in terms of ability to take abuse. Didn't turn out the way I'd hoped, and now one of my favorite knives is broken. I'm kinda bummed about that, but I do have one of the Stag Arms Manix 2 knives, and I still love it. I just won't think that it's going to take heavy abuse like I had thought before this afternoon.

For my part, I think the comment that Cold Steel has good products and bad ones is probably the best way to sum it up. They do pride themselves on tough, overbuilt products. Durability is the name of the game, and a lot of other things take a back seat to that. Based on what they are trying to accomplish, I think they do a good job, particularly on their cheaper products, and in having a great variety of products. Granted, most of them cater to the mall ninja (I mean, seriously, who's gonna use a throwing star or an iroquois war club in real life). But I've been happy with all of my Cold Steel purchases, and I find their advertising entertaining, at least.

A word to the wise though. If you don't want to get strong opinions, you might phrase your thread title more on the lines of "what other companies make knives that can compete with Cold Steel in the toughness category," or something like that. Claiming that other companies can't compete is a great way to get a lively thread like this one going.
 
Tim616, respectfully, of course. That gets me a David Farmer 4" clip point fixed blade in 1095 and beautiful maple. Sorry if you don't get it, but I certainly do.
 
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