Why Remove the Prices?

[Lou Castle]

I have an idea Lou,

You should start a forum just for the buying/selling of knives and set the prices like a menu.

It's not a bad idea FLymon. But I'm not the right guy to implement it. I don't know enough about knives and I expend my energy in helping people in another, completely unrelated field. I already run several email lists and forums.

 

[Lou Castle]

Double post. sorry

 

[Orion]

"Value is what someone is willing to pay."

Exactly, why it is such valuable information.

"I do the research, but it's hindered when a site allows sellers to remove the information that is being searched for. "

Boom! And there it is!!!!

I think the root of the problem is that some wives are internet stalking their husbands to see where the bank account is flowing to..... LOL.... "Hey, can you delete that price? I told my wife I only paid $50 for this Sebenza....".........

 

[Blues]

Orion, and you call yourself a hunter...

 

[Orion]

Absolutely. Any hunter that doesn't want or need all the pertinent information pertaining to exactly what it is he is hunting isn't worth his weight in bulls**t....

 

[Blues]

You have a point. Unfortunately, in this case you're limited to the "available" information, I'm afraid..."need" and "want" notwithstanding. Happy hunting. (Watch out for the cow patties.)

 

[JTR357]

Would it be better if instead of this : BUCK 110 $40 SOLD

I left it like this? BUCK 110 $8500 SOLD!

 

[Orion]

"in this case you're limited to the "available" information"

And again, this is the crux of the argument...

 

[Orion]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxWtmBf_UWQ

 

[Karda]

There is no argument really. The rule is clear.
There are plenty of ways and places on the 'Net to find just as, or more accurate information by those that choose to take the time to seek it.
You wouldnt happen to be calling someone names by your youtube video, now would you?

 

[Morrow]

"in this case you're limited to the "available" information"

And again, this is the crux of the argument...

The Exchange is a place for business to take place. No where is it said the Exchange is to be a historical reference for prices. It is hard enough to keep track of what is going on with current threads let alone chasing around sellers for not leaving up a price they may or may not what to keep listed.

 

[JTR357]

There is no argument really. The rule is clear.
There are plenty of ways and places on the 'Net to find just as, or more accurate information by those that choose to take the time to seek it.

+1000000² :thumbup:

 

[Lou Castle]

No where is it said the Exchange is to be a historical reference for prices.

It doesn’t "need to be said" that the Exchange has become "a historical reference for prices." This is an inescapable fact. It's not the intent of the forum but it's what it's become by default, since there is the best and latest information about how much a knife sells for and it's condition, usually complete with photos from many angles.

It is hard enough to keep track of what is going on with current threads let alone chasing around sellers for not leaving up a price they may or may not what to keep listed.

How come some keep missing the fact that a member volunteered to be "that guy?" No existing moderator would have had to, so much as lift a finger.

 

[Lou Castle]

There are plenty of ways and places on the 'Net to find just as, or more accurate information by those that choose to take the time to seek it.

I’m not sure why a mod would want to drive traffic away from his own forum, to another one. Generally that's considered to be a bad practice.

In any case, the information found on other forums and websites, would be "just as accurate," but it would certainly NOT be "more accurate."

 

[Karda]

I’m not sure why a mod would want to drive traffic away from his own forum, to another one. Generally that's considered to be a bad practice.

It's not my forum. The person who's forum it is, has already made his carefully contemplated decision and made it a rule.

In any case, the information found on other forums and websites, would be "just as accurate," but it would certainly NOT be "more accurate."

It all depends on how much you want the information, where you look and how much time you choose to spend in research. There are actually places where the information, as to what something is worth, is probably far more accurate than what can be found in a sales thread here. Again, you have to take the time to look and collate.

 

[Morrow]

It doesn’t "need to be said" that the Exchange has become "a historical reference for prices." This is an inescapable fact. It's not the intent of the forum but it's what it's become by default, since there is the best and latest information about how much a knife sells for and it's condition, usually complete with photos from many angles.



How come some keep missing the fact that a member volunteered to be "that guy?" No existing moderator would have had to, so much as lift a finger.

The fact that there are large number of transactions and some information remains because the seller chooses to not remove the prices does not make anything "default." There is no "fact" only individual perception. Any residual information is a byproduct. There is no intent to make the Exchange a historical reference as I started before. If there was any intent, the rules would be different. Giving the sellers a choice of how to conduct business is clearly more important than preserving selling prices that may or may not be accurate given the current secondary market.

We already have 2 outstanding Exchange mods and a solid staff of supermods to back them up. Volunteering to perform a task the owner of the site doesn't want done is like interviewing to be the next space shuttle pilot.

 

[JTR357]

The fact that there are large number of transactions and some information remains because the seller chooses to not remove the prices does not make anything "default." There is no "fact" only individual perception. Any residual information is a byproduct. There is no intent to make the Exchange a historical reference as I started before. If there was any intent, the rules would be different. Giving the sellers a choice of how to conduct business is clearly more important than preserving selling prices that may or may not be accurate given the current secondary market.

We already have 2 outstanding Exchange mods and a solid staff of supermods to back them up. Volunteering to perform a task the owner of the site doesn't want done is like interviewing to be the next space shuttle pilot.

This!This!!^^

 

[Lou Castle]

It's not my forum.

I never claimed that you owned it. But you're a moderator here and your suggestion was to look for information on other sites/forums. Again, that's generally regarded as a bad practice.

The person who's forum it is, has already made his carefully contemplated decision and made it a rule.

Yes, we know. It's been said several times now. I'm no longer arguing for the rule change, now I'm just punching holes in specious arguments. It's plenty enough for me that the owner has made a decision, as I've said several times now. Really there doesn’t need to be any further explanation, but for some reason, people keep trying, but their arguments make little or no sense.

It all depends on how much you want the information, where you look and how much time you choose to spend in research. There are actually places where the information, as to what something is worth, is probably far more accurate than what can be found in a sales thread here. Again, you have to take the time to look and collate.

There is no more accurate information on the price of a knife, than in a recent transaction, what a willing buyer will pay a willing seller, absent some emergency situation.

 

[Karda]

I never claimed that you owned it. But you're a moderator here and your suggestion was to look for information on other sites/forums. Again, that's generally regarded as a bad practice.

Regarded as bad practice by whom?

Yes, we know. It's been said several times now. I'm no longer arguing for the rule change, now I'm just punching holes in specious arguments. It's plenty enough for me that the owner has made a decision, as I've said several times now. Really there doesn’t need to be any further explanation, but for some reason, people keep trying, but their arguments make little or no sense.

It seems to me that you're just arguing for arguments sake, no matter what explanation is given, even though your "argument" doesnt make any more sense than the explanations you claim "make little or no sense".

There is no more accurate information on the price of a knife, than in a recent transaction, what a willing buyer will pay a willing seller, absent some emergency situation.

That is your opinion. I've never had problems finding the info i seek, because i choose to do the research wherever it may be instead of arguing the posted rules on a private forum.

 

[JTR357]

It's about choice & not rules <AHH nevermind!>

Here's a knife pic ~