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I think we all agree. It's a hobby and you do with our hobby as you please. Knives are things and have a purpose; cutting things in one form or another. Just have fun with it and who cares? If you want to collect impact wrenches or chain saws, go for it. Nobody cares.

The other thing "life is short", Believe me, it really is short. Enjoy what makes you happy.
 
There's absolutely nothing wrong with that, but it's also not at all incompatible with what I said. The only jewelry I wear is for personal satisfaction and the benefit of one very particular person. That doesn't mean it's not jewelry, just that I'm not wearing it with any intention of grabbing attention or showing off.

Who ever said just because it's this brand or that brand of watch that I'm wearing it for someone else's benifit other than mine? In fact the most expensive watch or watches I own most would have no idea what they are. Actually it's very rare that anyone recognizes any of the watches I'm actually wearing, in fact that tends to be a good thing actually. Typically they only get recognized by others who share the same passion or when I'm at a jeweler looking at other watches of the same caliber. On those rare occasions when they are recognized it can actually be rather unfortunate or somewhat embarrising at times, so showing off or grabbing attention is far from what most people to include myself are trying to do. I have no desire to become a target just because I chose to and enjoy wearing a more expensive watch.
 
I chose Rolex years ago because of its durability.

... and because I always wanted the James Bond watch.
 
Who ever said just because it's this brand or that brand of watch that I'm wearing it for someone else's benifit other than mine? In fact the most expensive watch or watches I own most would have no idea what they are. Actually it's very rare that anyone recognizes any of the watches I'm actually wearing, in fact that tends to be a good thing actually. Typically they only get recognized by others who share the same passion or when I'm at a jeweler looking at other watches of the same caliber. On those rare occasions when they are recognized it can actually be rather unfortunate or somewhat embarrising at times, so showing off or grabbing attention is far from what most people to include myself are trying to do. I have no desire to become a target just because I chose to and enjoy wearing a more expensive watch.


One thing I would never do is wear or drive anything that would make me a target.

I have always been one not to stand out in a crowd and that is on purpose.

Never really cared what other people think.

But then I don't care about celebrities etc either and never really did. ;)
 
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Why do people where jeans and sweatpants to work outside in the yard and around the house, when they have a nicer, perfectly more expensive suit or several, possibly even custom tailored, just hanging in the closet?

Makes no sense to me... Why would someone want to spend so much money on a nice suit and not wear it while cleaning the gutters? Why wear your cheaper clothes when mowing the grass and pulling weeds? Suits were made to be worn, same as jeans and sweat pants, so wear 'em

That is about how silly this question sounds to me. Sure, some folks can, and might even wear nicer threads to do tough or dirty work, most do not. Similarly, Most people don't even own "nicer" knives, we are the minority, and of those of us that do, many don't like to use our more expensive ones for dirtier, harder use tasks, so be it. There is more of an artistic flare involved in higher end knife making then there are in most other standard tools, it's why you don't hear of the latest designer collabs on impact wrenches, also most folks don't have 7 or 75 impact wrenches sitting around to choose for various jobs, but rather have one they use, and maybe a back up or two sitting around just in case. As a knife enthusiast and collector, I have at least 75 folding knives to choose from, ranging from $10 - $200+, most of which I like to carry at different points for different reasons, some gentleman's (like suits), some recreational, (like jeans or shorts), some are workers; many fall in the $75 - $150 range, but many also fall in the $20 - $50 range. I work in Steel foundry and before that it was roofing, before that it was a plastics factory, and before that i built docks for 6 yrs separated by a 1 year stint in school for automechanics and a 4 year stint in the army in between; same reason as I don't buy brand new suits, or even designer jeans and t-shirts at macy's for work, but rather opt to buy 2nd hand clothes at thrift stores, I also opt to carry sub $50 knives to work, so I don't have to worry about them getting lost, (stolen), or ruined... I also own several suits, and have knives I like to carry with them, and I do own some nicer recreational/casual wear, and a plethora of knives I like to rotate through with them, selecting them appropriately for say, a hike in the woods, a night out to dinner with the misses, a BBQ at a friends house, or just loungin around the house.
 
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Who ever said just because it's this brand or that brand of watch that I'm wearing it for someone else's benifit other than mine? In fact the most expensive watch or watches I own most would have no idea what they are. Actually it's very rare that anyone recognizes any of the watches I'm actually wearing, in fact that tends to be a good thing actually. Typically they only get recognized by others who share the same passion or when I'm at a jeweler looking at other watches of the same caliber. On those rare occasions when they are recognized it can actually be rather unfortunate or somewhat embarrising at times, so showing off or grabbing attention is far from what most people to include myself are trying to do. I have no desire to become a target just because I chose to and enjoy wearing a more expensive watch.

Yeah...that doesn't make it not jewelry. I've explicitly acknowledged that you may be wearing it purely for your own satisfaction. I was, in fact, comparing the jewelry I wear to the jewelry you wear and pointing out that neither of us are wearing it to get attention or show off. None of that means it's not jewelry.
 
Tell you what. I have a bundle of knives- many for different applications. I have an old Buck 119 from the 90s that I bought new that looks like someone threw it in a cement mixer.

I would, personally, stick any of my knives inside of a deer for field dressing and take any of them fishing etc. I use them all.

I just picked up a beautiful Blue bone Case that will get dipped in creeks and clean game too.

However- we live in a free market and I have no problem with someone buying a $500 knife and sticking it in a safe- for one reason. In 50-60 years it might be worth $3000. Never know.
 
I'm not sure they have, Marcinek.

Blade Dude, I think the answer has to do with the role knives and swords have in our culture. Weapons in general, actually. That's why you hit on the example of the impact wrench. There has always been a variety of tool that indicates status and achievement into which men, mostly, have invested a form of spiritual importance. It is why swords are present at ceremonies, why they are often jeweled and made of expensive metals, why in the age of better weapons people even continue to own swords at all. There is more to the knife and the sword than just their existence as tools. Historically we have never invested shovels or impact wrenches with this sense of reverence. But we have done this to horses, and I suspect this has carried over to cars and trucks. There is a status, and for some an investment of spiritual value, to these tools and, in the case of horses, animals, that gives them an importance greater than their mere utility. I think the fit, finish, beauty, and cost of a Sebenza put it in the class of tool that opens it up to this form of near-religious fetishization. If Reeve made a replaceable-blade box cutter with the same care and expertise as he makes folding knives, I suspect they would not receive the same spiritual investment, even if the price were as high as his knives.

Fireams, too, have this role in our culture and get treated the same way. Sometimes it's because they are like museum pieces and have historical importance, like my M1. It shoots great and is an outstanding firearm in every respect, but if you want to think of its history, it does have what the Pacific islanders would call Mana. It is a 1942 Springfield M1 with "matching" drawing numbers on the parts and a serial number in the low 100,000s. It no doubt saw combat in WWII and was restocked for the Korean War and has rack numbers grease-penciled on the grip pommel. It is one of the weapons that protected democracy. Maybe it helped liberate the Philippines, or clear the way to free captives in the Nazi camps, or achieve the breakout at Chosin Reservoir. Even if it didn't do these things, even if it were pristine, in an original crate, wrapped in cosmoline paper, it would still evoke reverence (maybe more so for that). And yet millions were made. It is a resilient tool capable of taking immense abuse, just like the Sebenza. I could just as easily schlep the M1 through the woods and kill an elk or throw it in the back of the truck as a road-trip gun as a Sebenza owner can score drywall or cut and pull up a carpet. Whether I do depends on whether I give it that reverence we give to things like swords or horses.

There is also my 1942 Soviet M38 carbine. I know this weapon, too, may have helped defeat the Nazis. Perhaps it was carried by an atilleryman at Stalingrad. But because it was produced in numbers far exceeding the M1, was not left to me by my late brother like my M1, and resembles a Stanley utility knife more than it does the Sebenza, I do take it to the woods to hunt elk and throw it in the truck as a road-trip gun. It does have Mana, I suppose, but those spirits just don't speak as loudly as the ones in the Garand. :o

Anyway, it's more than, "Some people do, some people don't/to each his own," as you've rightly intuited, Blade Dude. There is a why, and I think it has to do with the special role weapons and some vehicles have in our culture and how we endow them with special meaning that makes us not want to use them for the prosaic tasks they no doubt would excel at.

Zieg

Reading many answers including this help it make sense. Just really weird to me because I come from a family where if I buy something more expensive it better work better or handle more abuse. My only things that are for display not use is probably one dagger I have.
 
Reading many answers including this help it make sense. Just really weird to me because I come from a family where if I buy something more expensive it better work better or handle more abuse. My only things that are for display not use is probably one dagger I have.

That's not generally how things work in the real world, not really due to many factors that drive cost.

Is a Million Dollar Ferrari more durable than a $25K Jeep........ NOPE..... ;)

Everything is subjective and it all comes down to what the various products are ment to do.

That is why people who shop by price alone will get ripped off more often than not and frugal people get ripped off more than anyone else and the manufactures etc know this and have products just for that purpose.

Cost is a side effect of quality, but the quality has to be there in the 1st place. ;)

A person can buy a GShock one heck of a lot less money than a Rolex.... And the simple fact is they can replace those GShocks for their whole life and never spend that money they did for that one Rolex. ;)

The simple fact is most things people buy aren't investments as they don't go up in value over time.
 
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Reading many answers including this help it make sense. Just really weird to me because I come from a family where if I buy something more expensive it better work better or handle more abuse. My only things that are for display not use is probably one dagger I have.

I was raised the same way. Nobody in the family had 10 knives lying around unused. Money was tight. But as the years go by most of us have more funds available for the things we like and one of those would be knives. If you own 50, 100, or 200 knives, it is likely that you can't use them all and they are often simply not for display purposes. I don't display anything of value in my home beyond art work. Nobody would know about the other stuff I am interested in unless they know me reasonably well.
 
My wrenches and hammers get beat to hell just like my knives do. Knives are tools, they are not jewelry.


I think it's actually a very small percentage of the population that carries knives as "pocket jewelry", because every person I met in the real world that showed me the knife they carry had a blade that looked like it was used to cut things.
 
My boss, who owned the dock building co. had two crew cab trucks.

A shiny F-350 triton with leather interior he bought brand new.
A beat up Chevy 2500 box truck he paid $8000 for used.

Which one do you think he brought onto job sites, and used for hauling debris?
Which one do you think he used to drop the girls off at school and soccer practice?

*if he was on a family errand and had to do work related errands, the F-350 was fully capable, and likewise, if he was on the job and had to pick up the girls for something, the 2500 was fully capable also, much like a $40 "work" knife and a $200 "recreational" knife, if one opts to go that route with carrying.
 
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Personally I spent 8 years in college and struggled financially the whole way through. It was painful and grueling.

Now, if I want a knife. I fricken buy it ;)
 
Everyone who has taken the time to state a point of view different than the OPs has answered.

They just didn't need to post a dissertation to make their point.

But I don't think they actually answered the question, "Why?", which was my point and which was the original question. I'll leave it there, Marcinek, because you have a way of pushing my buttons and I don't need that today.

Zieg
 
I consider my watch and knives as tools.
 
Anyone who purchased a $500 knife probably has a lot more knives in their collection to begin with. Collectors usually work their way up the price ladder and people who buy $500 knives are usually collectors, not first-time buyers. I don't think you will find anyone who started off with a $500 knife then decided to purchase a beater knife to go along with it so they don't damage the expensive knife.
 
Anyone who purchased a $500 knife probably has a lot more knives in their collection to begin with. Collectors usually work their way up the price ladder and people who buy $500 knives are usually collectors, not first-time buyers. I don't think you will find anyone who started off with a $500 knife then decided to purchase a beater knife to go along with it so they don't damage the expensive knife.

Maybe this could be said about the majority of people but rarely if ever do general statements such as this or others fit every situation nor do they apply to everybody.

Actually it was the more decorative knives which I saw which initially attracted me to knives in the first place.
 
Anyone who purchased a $500 knife probably has a lot more knives in their collection to begin with. Collectors usually work their way up the price ladder and people who buy $500 knives are usually collectors, not first-time buyers. I don't think you will find anyone who started off with a $500 knife then decided to purchase a beater knife to go along with it so they don't damage the expensive knife.

You do a lot of guessing...

There have been quite a few threads I've read here about someone taking a leap into high-dollar knives for their "first".
 
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