Women and Knives: Why More Women Need To Carry A Blade

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Blade Girl said:
I got the Ka-Bar 2-1232-1 Sheath Knife 4" in stacked leather. I don't really care all that much for it, though.it's alright, nice enough, but not one that makes me drool all over myself, so to speak.
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The 1232 Hunter is a pretty nice 4" fixed blade to start with. The stacked leather handle is very traditional in design. The Bucks along that line are also pretty good. Maybe the Kabar will grow on you. I tend to like the Blackjack Classics quite a bit and the stacked leather handle option is one of their many.
 
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The 1232 Hunter is a pretty nice 4" fixed blade to start with. The stacked leather handle is very traditional in design. The Bucks along that line are also pretty good. Maybe the Kabar will grow on you. I tend to like the Blackjack Classics quite a bit and the stacked leather handle option is one of their many.
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I have more knives coming..and have not even shared all the ones i received yesterday. I hope you will share with me your honest opinion and insight as I continue posting more.. It is very kind of you to reply and to share your thoughts. I know you are probably busy and appreciate it sooooo much! Thank you!
 
I enjoy reading how people take to the hobby and run with it. The kind of decisions they make and so forth are interesting to me. I don't expect you to go out and spend thousands of dollars on knives just to see what you might like. Rome wasn't built in a day either or the old saying you have to learn to walk before you can run might apply.

You like Case traditionals, I would suggest that you look at some of the knives made by Great Eastern Cutlery (GEC) or ones made by them carrying the Northwoods brand at KSF. There are other GEC dealers. One might be useful to use as a comparison for help you form your perspectives in the universe of traditional knives. It actually took me a while before I was willing to spend the extra money for the GEC stuff. I was looking at a Tuna Valley knife (Scout knife) that KSF has listed and all I can say is omg on the price. But it does have mamonth ivory scales that seems to add about $100 to cost to a knife these days. I think I will just enjoy it from afar. I am planning to attend a knife show in March and I am going to be looking at the old scout knives as one of my focuses there. I find them historically cool.
 
22-rimfire said:
I enjoy reading how people take to the hobby and run with it. The kind of decisions they make and so forth are interesting to me. I don't expect you to go out and spend thousands of dollars on knives just to see what you might like. Rome wasn't built in a day either or the old saying you have to learn to walk before you can run might apply.

You like Case traditionals, I would suggest that you look at some of the knives made by Great Eastern Cutlery (GEC) or ones made by them carrying the Northwoods brand at KSF. There are other GEC dealers. One might be useful to use as a comparison for help you form your perspectives in the universe of traditional knives. It actually took me a while before I was willing to spend the extra money for the GEC stuff. I was looking at a Tuna Valley knife (Scout knife) that KSF has listed and all I can say is omg on the price. But it does have mamonth ivory scales that seems to add about $100 to cost to a knife these days. I think I will just enjoy it from afar. I am planning to attend a knife show in March and I am going to be looking at the old scout knives as one of my focuses there. I find them historically cool.
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I like all sorts of knives....to be honest. I love SAK, Opinels, Case, and more. I am enjoying collecting them for sure! And I hope you enjoy yourself at the Knife show...I have never been to one yet but I am sure I will be soon!
 
So the original point of this thread is women specifically should carry and have an interest in knives because they are good tools? ... Um, duh. That's why people in general carry knives. Don't understand the random insertion of gender into that. A knife is a useful tool regardless of XX or XY chromosomes
 
GatorMedic said:
So the original point of this thread is women specifically should carry and have an interest in knives because they are good tools? ... Um, duh. That's why people in general carry knives. Don't understand the random insertion of gender into that. A knife is a useful tool regardless of XX or XY chromosomes
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I don't think the gender insertions were random. But most girls/women don't seem to be wired to enjoy knives. Most don't seem to enjoy kitchen cutlery (even the good stuff) like guys do unless they have had training and have learned to appreciate a good blade.
 
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I don't think the gender insertions were random. But most girls/women don't seem to be wired to enjoy knives. Most don't seem to enjoy kitchen cutlery (even the good stuff) like guys do unless they have had training and have learned to appreciate a good blade.
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Most girls/women don't enjoy knives as a hobby or take exceptional interest in them because current culture in the United States (as well as some cultures in other parts of the world currently) tells girls and women not to. If you have XX chromosomes our (as in US) culture states you are expected to love the color pink, enjoy wearing dresses and makeup, engage in cooking, etc. That is the reason for the ratio difference. The knife's usefulness as a tool has absolutely zero relation to the user's gender however. Thus I don't see the point of the original post. Women specifically should not carry a knife. PEOPLE who need the tool should carry a knife. Chromosomal makeup is irrevelant

EDIT to add: The "wired" comment makes absolutely no factual sense. Using and/or enjoying knives is not encoded on the Y chromosome or only available at certain hormone levels. Women all over the world use and enjoy knives. The OP and I are but two examples of many others. A knife is an inanimate tool for Pete's sake; it does not care about gender.
 
Most men don't even carry a knife anymore. And if they do a lot of times it's something like a tiny little cheap one, with nail files and a very puny small main blade.
 
GatorMedic said:
Most girls/women don't enjoy knives as a hobby or take exceptional interest in them because current culture in the United States (as well as some cultures in other parts of the world currently) tells girls and women not to. If you have XX chromosomes our (as in US) culture states you are expected to love the color pink, enjoy wearing dresses and makeup, engage in cooking, etc. That is the reason for the ratio difference. The knife's usefulness as a tool has absolutely zero relation to the user's gender however. Thus I don't see the point of the original post. Women specifically should not carry a knife. PEOPLE who need the tool should carry a knife. Chromosomal makeup is irrevelant

EDIT to add: The "wired" comment makes absolutely no factual sense. Using and/or enjoying knives is not encoded on the Y chromosome or only available at certain hormone levels. Women all over the world use and enjoy knives. The OP and I are but two examples of many others. A knife is an inanimate tool for Pete's sake; it does not care about gender.
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Of course. This has been said many times in this thread and others. Do you feel that men and women are not "wired" differently? I feel the wired word choice is apt however regardless of your opinion. Again using a knife has nothing to do with chromosomes, but it does have something to do with social conditioning and you mention the color pink. Boys are supposed to like blue..... The truth is that both genders may enjoy both colors same as knives.

And this is true to it seems and has little to do with gender.

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Most men don't even carry a knife anymore. And if they do a lot of times it's something like a tiny little cheap one, with nail files and a very puny small main blade.
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22-rimfire said:
Of course. This has been said many times in this thread and others. Do you feel that men and women are not "wired" differently? I feel the wired word choice is apt however regardless of your opinion. Again using a knife has nothing to do with chromosomes, but it does have something to do with social conditioning and you mention the color pink. Boys are supposed to like blue..... The truth is that both genders may enjoy both colors same as knives.
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While we are wired differently, it is hard to distinguish wiring from societal influence. Plus, are all women "wired" the same?...men?
 
Gross generalizations are seldom factually correct regardless of subject matter. Sounds like an argument for the sake of having an argument. :D
 
Blade Girl said:
Isn't this Case Toothpick a beauty? It's very small, too. I absolutely LOVE it!
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Blade Girl, I apologize for being harsh towards you. I must admit that I seriously questioned your interest in knives. It looks like you are off to a good start. Welcome to the forums, happy knife hunting and good luck! :thumbup:
 
Besides being handy, "Carry a knife, save a life" it happens. And everyone is correct as in most Men don't even have one on them, it's good to be prepared no matter who you are.
 
22-rimfire said:
Of course. This has been said many times in this thread and others. Do you feel that men and women are not "wired" differently? I feel the wired word choice is apt however regardless of your opinion. Again using a knife has nothing to do with chromosomes, but it does have something to do with social conditioning and you mention the color pink. Boys are supposed to like blue..... The truth is that both genders may enjoy both colors same as knives.

And this is true to it seems and has little to do with gender.
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I think that society in general frowns upon ANYONE carrying a knife except for maybe a construction worker or someone actively hunting..... of course there are a few more reasons, but my point is that outside of the kitchen, a heck of a lot of people are scared of knives. In our disposable culture, most people get by just fine without a pocket knife. Many of these people also feel that because they don't need one, neither does anyone else.

As children, even though we are conditioned to like certain things I would argue that boys are more likely than girls to enjoy knives, guns, etc. regardless of conditioning. They have an element of danger to them and boys seem to be more attracted to danger than girls.

As far as preference of color, I would say it's more of a cultural thing. I have nothing against pink, but it's not my favorite and my wife really despises pink. She even laughed at me for having a pink knife..... The Case mammoth tooth below. (Sorry for the crummy pic).




FWIW, my wife carries a laguiole that I gave her and my mom has carried a SAK for years. I gave her a Leatherman Juice a few years back and occasionally she tells me about other men who have had contempt for her when they see it. Many men do not think a woman should have a good tool. That in itself reveals a lot about the idea of our cultural norms.
 
22-rimfire said:
Of course. This has been said many times in this thread and others. Do you feel that men and women are not "wired" differently? I feel the wired word choice is apt however regardless of your opinion. Again using a knife has nothing to do with chromosomes, but it does have something to do with social conditioning and you mention the color pink. Boys are supposed to like blue..... The truth is that both genders may enjoy both colors same as knives.

And this is true to it seems and has little to do with gender.
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Every person is "wired" slightly different. It's called DNA. Every person has their own unique blend of hormones, physical characteristics, supposed brain areas that work stronger than others, etc. Do I think interest in knives is "wired" into a person's DNA? Absolutely not. Who is supposed to like *insert inanimate object here* and use it and who's not supposed to show interest in that object is 100% based on societal norms and has absolutely nothing to do with a particular person's DNA or chromosomal makeup.
 
I flat out do not care what anyone thinks about what I have on me, but it's nice to have a handsome traditional to use around other parents, sometimes impressions do count.
 
GatorMedic, I think social conditioning has a significant influence on gender tendancies as does genetic makeup, and I do believe that men and women are wired differently. I do believe that maybe one is more prone to developing a certain disease or condition (example heart condition) based on genetics. I believe that genetics have a significant bearing on a person's health and certainly likely lifespan. The term "wired" could mean blood vessals or nerve impulse transmissions through conduits in the body. An electrical wire carries or channels electricity from one place to another. Wired is also a general word choice for certain tendancies typical of people.

Added: I think everyone should just do what they like and if it is buying and using knives, they should do it to please themselves and support their interests. Gender has little to do with it as far as I'm concerned and this is a discussion I really am not going to continue to have when it is geared specifically toward gender rather than knives.
 
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