would you ever stab someone?

alan aragon said:
...i just recently learned about the stabbing stereotype from my dad & thought it was funny as sh!t.. don't mess with a flip or he'll STAB you!!! ..love it..
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So what?...Us Americans shoot/stab/slice/punch first, and don't ask questions later.:D.
 
goldcutter-
I've never been in a "knife fight" nor had reason to stab anyone. But I have had knives pulled on me several times, both times while I was unarmed, both times by people I knew and whose abilities (lack thereof really) were known to me. I defended myself both times and both times walked away without a scratch.

The above isnt meant as the condensed story of a braggart- I think the only thing of importance I mentioned above is that they were both known to me. Had I not been aware of their abilities I would have run like the devil was breathing down my neck unless I had no other choice.

In a situation where you might have cause to stab someone or be stabbed yourself the most valuable tool at your disposal is not any tangible weapon you might hold in your hand. The most valuable thing in this situation(in any given situation for that matter) is your mind and your instinct. One is an inherent trait and the other can be cultivated and sharpened (heh, like any blade!) through a lifetime of training. Its my experience that prolonged self defense training of any type has the main virtue of cultivating this instinct- the ability to instantly "know" whether to stand or run, fight or flee, injure or kill, etc. etc. so yeah, I guess what I'm saying in my long windedway is that I would stab someone if it was necessary to my survival or that of my loved ones- otherwise it's just not worth therisk to your health or of possible incarceration.

If its gotta be you or me, its gonna be you. Not me.


by the way, hello all! I love this forum.
 
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Vindicated said:
...and I told him I wasn't letting him walk away with his knife. -- My worry was that if I walk away he could always come after me from behind. -- He paused for a few seconds, dropped the knife on the floor and then both guys just walked away.
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You must have encountered the King Milquetoast of all hat thieves. I like the story, but maybe you could jazz it up by giving yourself super powers or x-ray vision the next time you tell it.
 
This is a very vexed issue. Goldcutter is in Australia as I am. Some doubt has been cast on the veracity of his claims, however, I can well understand his frustration having been through similar things myself. You win some, you lose some. After a while you win more than you lose. You have to be able to prove these things beyond reasonable doubt, otherwise it's tempting for the jaded to say "forget it." Some people can get away with almost anything simply because they are very adept at manipulating the system. As we have all seen over the years, corpses, for instance, can be difficult but not impossible to explain, depending on circumstances. The police, however, don't like knives and spend more time with victims than they do with criminals. Guns are uncommon here. A greater percentage of crime is simply not reported, perhaps with good reason. Rules are only polite suggestions, circumstances alter cases and "fight or flight" are not always viable options. Unfortunately, one cannot always act on ones instincts with the result that either opportunities are lost or disaster ensues. I don't know where the mind ends and the body begins but I suspect that trauma is a survival mechanism in that it makes damn sure the same thing does'nt happen twice, if it's at all possible, so one should be grateful for ones defeats (within reason lol) as well as ones victories. And where does all this leave poor Goldcutter? Right back where he started off lol, it's very difficult to advise people in these situations simply because there is no right answer or recipe to follow.
Hmmm, I just reread this, I thought I knew something to start with now I know I don't. Dammit to hell lol.
 
Wow. You learn something new everyday. I thought Stihl only made fixed blades. Hows the liner lock on that folder? :eek:

And dont forget GoldCutter. Its not polite to stab people.
 
glockman99 said:
If some jackasss pulled out a knife and threated to kill me, you can bet the farm that I'd shoot him full of holes with my 10mm Glock, then stab him in the neck a few times when my 16-shot pistol ran dry.:D.
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16 shots, bye bye AWB! :cool:

And, no, I don't think I would ever stab anybody unless it was a last resort thing (especially since I mostly carry slipjoints...)
 
GoldCutter, sorry for calling you a troll -it's not your story, really, it's just that whenever someone's first few posts involves a knife fight story, my Bullshit meter goes crazy. "Vindicated" is a good example of why, btw.

Welcome to bladeforums, GoldCutter!
 
GoldCutter said:
MR MODERATOR you can make fun all you like but this is a serious issue....I presume most if not all the people on this forum carry knives at one given time or another .....its interseting to see what people deem as exceptable knife use....weather you like it or not there are plenty of heros and freaks out there that believe they are in their every right to use knives either in self defence or for intimidation.......

I've learnt to make sure I'm not in the wrong place at the wrong time and sense danger from afar.....but as clearly visual there are plenty of people ready to show their strong arm..(they even like bragging about it)

but its a touchy subject and perhaps its better off not brought up....everyone seems to have a strong viewpoint....... all in all given the right circumstances, I'm convinced any of you knife nuts will use one for self defence no matter how rightous you want to apear.
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basko152 said:
Jeezus krist man, git sum edgjukashun

www.hookedonphonics.com

and quite your sniveling at

www.mothering.com
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lol. in his defense though... most english speaking nations other than america spell defense as defence, gray as grey, color as colour and so on. BUT, he definetely spelled righteous wrong!

and since I am new here I feel compelled to point it out... I'm joking!
 
To answer the last query by Goldcutter, I just HAVE to say that I would simply use a spoon. Preferably a wooden spoon because they seem to be the most politically correct version of all of the spoons that I have carried. :rolleyes:

My friend... If I seem a bit sarcastic I apologize. However, I am at a loss as to the reason for your question unless you are some person intent on receipt of overt graphic, stories that you intend to use for some ruse to compile "reasons" to further restrict the personal use of overall self-defense. If, on the other hand, you have never had the need to use a weapon (or your hands for that matter) to defend yourself then you are fortunate but please do not attempt to use the good membership here to satiate your bloodlust, if that is indeed your intent here.

Now, I realize that I have consumed a bit too much Spaten Optimator this evening and I am in desperate need of sleep so I bid you good evening and all the best in your quest....
 
ok people maybe time I learned to spell better ....but "HEY I'M SURE IF YOU'RE SO SMART" then you can figure out what I'm writing.

oh and no .....not by a long shot have I come here to express any blood lust or macho stuff....no this was just something that has been on my mind a bit...I'm sure everyone has their policies on how they uphold themselves in this ever perpetuating comlpex world of modern predicaments. I know I'm pretty weary when I walk the streets at night.

I just wanted to hear other views....makes for a good discussion if conducted in the appropriate manner even if it has been gone over before....and may I add that I do appreciate the sensible input from cirtain people, you know who you are.

ok now hang on a second whilst I get out the spell checker.
 
GoldCutter said:
I just wanted to hear other views....makes for a good discussion if conducted in the appropriate manner even if it has been gone over before....and may I add that I do appreciate the sensible input from cirtain people, you know who you are.

ok now hang on a second whilst I get out the spell checker.
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:D

I couldn't help it....
 
seriously. knives are generally carried around as tools. I collect knives, but simply for the novelty of having nice knives. I carry one around daily with the sole purpose of cutting up fruit.

however, when i walk around late at night in durham, i carry the cuda maxx or vaquero grande. it's saved me from a few muggings; namely, i saw a small balisong or switchblade in the hand of someone sketchy walking towards me (empty street at night). I figure if they have a gun they'd use it first, so they only have their dinky pocket knife. I pull out my 6" folder, tell them its a bad idea and i will wreck their night, and they leave.

That being said, you can conclude that knives serve as a deterrent when it comes to self-defense. Just like a gun. You don't carry a gun expecting to shoot people; you carry it as a deterring force. Same with a knife.

Whenever I get in fights, whatever knife i happen to be carrying at the moment stays in my pocket or sheathed. Under no circumstances should you draw a weapon unless they do so first. You yourself escalating the level of the fight from fisticuffs to deadly force is a bad bad idea.

Then again, say you got jumped 5v1 in a back alley, that's another story.


Of course, this all assumes you're competent with a knife and have had some form of self-defense training. If you're a mall ninja who thinks carrying a knife around makes you badass, leave the blade at home kiddo.
 
edgetrip said:
Oh Alan, you are perpetuating a terrible racial stereotype...

carry on sir
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;) :D

Just got back from two months in Guam with my uncles :eek: :cool:

I'm gonna go with Stu Gatz on this, but minus PCness... Titanium spork all the way.
 
ayzianboy said:
seriously. knives are generally carried around as tools. I collect knives, but simply for the novelty of having nice knives. I carry one around daily with the sole purpose of cutting up fruit.

however, when i walk around late at night in durham, i carry the cuda maxx or vaquero grande. it's saved me from a few muggings; namely, i saw a small balisong or switchblade in the hand of someone sketchy walking towards me (empty street at night). I figure if they have a gun they'd use it first, so they only have their dinky pocket knife. I pull out my 6" folder, tell them its a bad idea and i will wreck their night, and they leave.

That being said, you can conclude that knives serve as a deterrent when it comes to self-defense. Just like a gun. You don't carry a gun expecting to shoot people; you carry it as a deterring force. Same with a knife.

Whenever I get in fights, whatever knife i happen to be carrying at the moment stays in my pocket or sheathed. Under no circumstances should you draw a weapon unless they do so first. You yourself escalating the level of the fight from fisticuffs to deadly force is a bad bad idea.

Then again, say you got jumped 5v1 in a back alley, that's another story.


Of course, this all assumes you're competent with a knife and have had some form of self-defense training. If you're a mall ninja who thinks carrying a knife around makes you badass, leave the blade at home kiddo.
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Damn, now my BS meter is going off again. Goldcutter seems like a reasonable guy, with a self-dprecating sense of humor, who accidentally opened up a can of worms. Now all them mall ninja's come out of the wood work.
 
You know what sets off my little meter -- people like you who spend to much energy on forums trying to stir up flames.

I liked Ayzianboy's post. He explained his opinions. You on the otherhand want to put down everyone who publicly says they sometimes carry for protection. Truth is, that's life. Some people carry knives and heres the big one, they don't think of them as just "tools." And I don't think there is anything wrong with that. Sometimes a knife is a tool, and sometimes its just a damn knife. You don't have to like all the "mall ninja" stories, but you don't have to comment on them either.
 
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