would you ever stab someone?

This one time I was like all, dude! And this guy was like, what? And I'm all, dude? And he was like, what dude? So then I got all, DUDE! And he went off like, WHAT?
 
MelancholyMutt - your post was alarming. Stabbing is one thing, but what's the rest of the cutlery for? Having em for dinner? I'd run if I saw you coming at me with your fork and knife out and a serious look on your face. ;)

Glockman99 you wouldn't need to stab anyone after you shot them 16 times if you just switched to a 45 acp, 1911. ;)

Seriously, I am sure everyone here would resort to whatever force necessary by whatever means available if they believed their or a loved one's safety was threatened. Just be prepared to defend the reasonableness of that threat assessment and level of force afterwards. Still, that's better than not being around to defend anything. That said would I stab anyone who pulled a knife on me for a cigarette? Not unless I was cornered and had no doubt that he was going to use his knife on me.
 
stevekt said:
This one time I was like all, dude! And this guy was like, what? And I'm all, dude? And he was like, what dude? So then I got all, DUDE! And he went off like, WHAT?
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Was anyone hurt??
 
Will P. said:
Damn, now my BS meter is going off again. Goldcutter seems like a reasonable guy, with a self-dprecating sense of humor, who accidentally opened up a can of worms. Now all them mall ninja's come out of the wood work.
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First off, downtown Durham, NC is one of the most unsafe places in the nation. There's even a movie called "welcome to durham" that details all the gang activity that goes around here. Which is a great location for my school, Duke. I know. But it's 2am, i'm walking from a friend's apt and i have to cut through a part downtown. You think i'm gonna walk around unarmed? If someone holds me up with a gun, sure, they can take my damn wallet and knife. But if someone approaches me with a swiss army knife you bet your ass my vaquero grande is coming out. The idea isn't to "mall ninja" fight them, it's to deter them by making them realize that you have a knife twice as big as theirs and it's probably not worth their trouble trying to get your wallet.

You're an idiot. Stop being a flaming douchebag of a forum troll and shut up.
 
ok guys lets not start fighting ....how bout we concentrate less on each other and more on what you would like to add to the discussion......coz all this knit picking (wich is all it is ).......has got to stop......everyone has an opinion and everyone is intitled to express it how they see fit....so lets just hear what people have to say ......


see the point I was trying to point out with the initial story that I posted was that all my life the answer to. Would I ever stab someone? would be "no f@#$ing way"......but after that night......*how should I put this*......my beliefs have wavered.....maybe it is a nessicary act under some circumstances........

after reading this thread I'm going back to saying "no f@#$ing way"
 
ayzianboy said:
You're an idiot. Stop being a flaming douchebag of a forum troll and shut up.
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Hell, I ain't objecting to carrying a pocket knife for protection. I used to do it all the time, and do so now when not on post, as my home state of Massachusetts has some of the most screwed up laws regarding guns ever. Y'all's stories of "I pulled a knife because he attacked me with a balisong" and "I pulled a CCC and cut his neck because I spotted a pushknife on his belt" simply do not ring true. These stories do not seem to be typical street situations. If you had pulled a knife and flashed it at someone in the ever-so-detailed fashion you described, you are lucky you didn't get shot, or stabbed, or suckerpunched by someone you didn't realize was a threat, especially is gangs are a problem. Of course, I am no expert, and I could well be dead wrong.

I don't want to start a flamewar - but every so often TTO's cousins wander on by. You are almost certainly right that I should try to do a better job of ignoring them. On the other hand, online name calling isn't on of God's gifts to man, unless you are in W&C.

If I had to stab someone:
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It really gets the inner mall ninja moving in all of us. :p Best of all, the police will never think to look at a serious knife collector as a suspect!

Goldcutter, I did some reading up on your legal situation in Australia, and you have my sympathies. I really need to change my state of residence now that the ban on assault weapons is gone - good times in the U.S. :D
 
If plan on using your knife as a deterant in a SD situation, youd better be up for getting stabbed.
Anyone with the fantasy idea of pulling a knife to scare the other guy off has obviously never done any serious training with a knife. You might as well pull you knife and stab yourself with it, that might deter the other guy just out of confusion.
Suppose the guy trying to rob you is a natural born MFer, you pulling a knife will only enrage him into now wanting to kill you instead of rob you.
Bottom line: If you ever pull a knife in a SD situation, youd better be ready to use it, and trained to do so. Close the skirmish gap fast and hit your opponent without hesitation. Of course, this implies that you only draw your weapon with intent to use and in a situation where you actions are defensable and evasion is not a reasonable option.
 
Roodog said:
If plan on using your knife as a deterant in a SD situation, youd better be up for getting stabbed.
Anyone with the fantasy idea of pulling a knife to scare the other guy off has obviously never done any serious training with a knife. You might as well pull you knife and stab yourself with it, that might deter the other guy just out of confusion.
Suppose the guy trying to rob you is a natural born MFer, you pulling a knife will only enrage him into now wanting to kill you instead of rob you.
Bottom line: If you ever pull a knife in a SD situation, youd better be ready to use it, and trained to do so. Close the skirmish gap fast and hit your opponent without hesitation. Of course, this implies that you only draw your weapon with intent to use and in a situation where you actions are defensable and evasion is not a reasonable option.
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agreed there's always the possibility of getting stabbed. However, if you're looking at a local inner city high school kid who wants to mug someone with his pocketknife so he can get some weed money (which is usually the case here in durham), it's another story and the deterrent factor works very well. If they see drunk Duke kids going home from clubbing, they think, hey free money. When one of the targets pulls out a much larger knife, the free money suddently doesn't look so appealing and free anymore.
 
Once again, How can you know this is the opportunistic inner city poor high school kid and not the sociopathic 16 on the verge of becoming a murderer?
It not OK to pull the knife unless you plan to use it. Give the guy a chance to change him mind and it may give him the time to decide which of your major arteries he is going to sever.
If you want a deterent, get a gun. They are much better and safer deterents than knives.
 
Would I stab someone? Yes if I had no other choise to defend myself or someone else. It would be my last option because I don't want to kill anyone and if I would draw my knife and get to a knife fight chances are high that I would accidentally stab myself during the fight, because I don't have any experience or training from knife fights. I think I would have better chances to win the fight with bare hands than with a knife. One reason is that carrying knifes in public places here in Finland is illegal and I think that if I would use my knife for selfdefence it would bring some bad consequenses for me.
 
Roodog said:
Once again, How can you know this is the opportunistic inner city poor high school kid and not the sociopathic 16 on the verge of becoming a murderer?
It not OK to pull the knife unless you plan to use it. Give the guy a chance to change him mind and it may give him the time to decide which of your major arteries he is going to sever.
If you want a deterent, get a gun. They are much better and safer deterents than knives.
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like i said, if it comes down to it i do know how to use a knife. Guns are illegal on college campuses, genius. And if he is indeed a 16 year old sociopath i would much rather have a knife instead of being unarmed.

personally, i think you've seen too many moves and/or are a paranoid schitzo.
 
roughedges said:
goldcutter-
I've never been in a "knife fight" nor had reason to stab anyone. But I have had knives pulled on me several times, both times while I was unarmed, both times by people I knew and whose abilities (lack thereof really) were known to me. I defended myself both times and both times walked away without a scratch.

The above isnt meant as the condensed story of a braggart- I think the only thing of importance I mentioned above is that they were both known to me. Had I not been aware of their abilities I would have run like the devil was breathing down my neck unless I had no other choice.

In a situation where you might have cause to stab someone or be stabbed yourself the most valuable tool at your disposal is not any tangible weapon you might hold in your hand. The most valuable thing in this situation(in any given situation for that matter) is your mind and your instinct. One is an inherent trait and the other can be cultivated and sharpened (heh, like any blade!) through a lifetime of training. Its my experience that prolonged self defense training of any type has the main virtue of cultivating this instinct- the ability to instantly "know" whether to stand or run, fight or flee, injure or kill, etc. etc. so yeah, I guess what I'm saying in my long windedway is that I would stab someone if it was necessary to my survival or that of my loved ones- otherwise it's just not worth therisk to your health or of possible incarceration.

If its gotta be you or me, its gonna be you. Not me.


by the way, hello all! I love this forum.
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Very Well Said roughedges! .. After reading through nearly this whole thread, I finally read some honest, well thought out, and experienced advice!

gold c,

This is the one!.. Read It!.. Read Again! Train Hard!.. And Stay Safe, but Stay Tuff!

The Best 2 All,

Anthony
 
personally, i think you've seen too many moves and/or are a paranoid schitzo.[/QUOTE]

I think you just misunderstood me. I didnt mean to offend you or your skills. I just feel that when you draw a weapon you are upping the ante and opening yourself up for a more serious attack. I also feel that when it comes to this point you might as well strike first. Pulling out a weapon and waving it around or wielding it as a threat is like laying your card face up in poker. I will keep mine sheathed until it becomes neccessay and pull it only when it becomes neccessary to use. Just me thought.
PS- I really dont like watching movies and I dont think Im a schizo :D
Azianboy, I did not mean to insult so I apologize if it was recieved that way.
 
In my area there is a stabbing on the news sometimes twice a week.....my best friend was stbbed couple of months ago...he's ok now.

but one story on the news that made me laugh was some guy pulled a knive out at 5 men walking down southbank near the casino and demanded their wallets......they all turned out to be off duty police officers.

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha still makes me laugh.
 
no offense taken. i just wanted to make you aware that it's not necessarily a rule of thumb regarding drawing a knife being a bad idea. most muggers, believe it or not, possess common sense and mug you only because they see you as an easy target. not too many people are willing to get into a knife fight with someone with a bigger knife just for a wallet, so it's a valid deterrent that makes it not worth their while. they'll just leave you alone and find an easier target later.
 
I will agree with you, there is role that knives may play as a detterent.
Youve made a good arguement.
I just dont feel comfortable with the idea personally, and would perfer to draw only when intending to use. Just a personal choice, and not to insinuate that you are wrong.
Yeah, I guess I might be alittle paranoid to thing all people who pull a knife might want to hurt me, and not just rob me. Id hate to be wrong and get cut or stabbed trying to had over my wallet.
 
their was a young kid in this forum who was asking what knife he should use to scare off a bully......his thread was moved......when I opened this thread I didnt realize that this was open to all ages.....for alot of communicating web sites are not......does anyone feel that we should have this thread removed or should we keep it posted?.......at least with the kid that was thinking of using a knife it gave everyone an opertunity to set him straight......or really are we just breeding a bad concept to be exceptable by keeping this thread going?
 
and to be totaly honest I think some of the people hear need a wake up call.....grab one of your blades and cut your finger.......it might remind you of what it might feel like to be stabbed.
 
Kids should read this. Get them to develop common sense. I'm 16 here and I've been here for quite a while
 
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