Maybe he's talking about when they changed the steel and raised the price?
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Wow, haven't looked at knives for a couple years. Prices seem insanely high now.
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Maybe he's talking about when they changed the steel and raised the price?
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True, but the level of detail starts getting into socioeconomic classes, statistical analysis of exchange rates, and all manner of political stuff that doesn't need to be included. As far as Cold Steel goes, what I did notice is that they state they are using real G10 now the older AUS8 knives used some sort of faux G10, also the steel just went through a mega upgrade. That is the reason for the price increase. You can actually see where your money is going if you are willing to look and come to terms with reality of material costs. Benchmade for example, same knives, same steel, same designs, 15-20% price increase. Same with other companies, nothing "new and improved", same knives and everything just a higher price tag.
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A variation of the Buck 110 that's probably as tough as the Cold Steel but because of its rarity I wouldn't use it to test but I'm pretty sure it'll hold up. I carried out as an EDC working as a contractor, mechanic, plumber and it survived 15 years on my belt.
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A few of the knife.
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A few of the knife.
I agree, but it depends on what you're buying. On the secondary market there will be unbelievable deals to be had, but I think you already know and understand why.
We think alike, and that's a good thing. Cheers. I've never actually owned a Buck knife of any sort before. I think I've handled a 110 once, maybe twice. They don't really call to me, to be frank. Though I will admit I've been eyeballing that blue/black G10 one that keeps popping up in the picture threads. Not for me, but for my Dad of course.
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A variation of the Buck 110 that's probably as tough as the Cold Steel but because of its rarity I wouldn't use it to test but I'm pretty sure it'll hold up. I carried out as an EDC working as a contractor, mechanic, plumber and it survived 15 years on my belt.
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A few of the knife.
Threaded pivot definitely would help, I've always said that. Nice knife looks in good condition.
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It's well used, I think I paid just south of a c note brand new in the mid 80s. I see them getting just north of double that nowadays.
How about Opinel, there's as knife that hasn't increased in price substantially over the years. Still great value or how
about Mora?
How about Opinel, there's as knife that hasn't increased in price substantially over the years. Still great value or how
about Mora?
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I like Buck, jumped on this one for 120 and it was a great buy. I even have another 110, 50 year but I haven't used it yet.
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I have a couple 110's, but they really never rang the gong for me. I always preferred the old Schrades and in particular the 250T. I figured why have one blade when you can have two? Neither are pocket knives; require a pouch of some sort to be comfortable to carry. I have no idea if a Buck is stronger. I used a 250T for years and years, never abused it; never wanted to.
As far as the strength of the 110 goes, use it as a knife and you'll almost never have a problem and you have the Buck guarantee.
The only recent purchase that the price rubbed me a bit was the Spyderco Kiwi 4. I really like the knife with G10 scales, but street price over $100.... and VG10 to boot...
As far as the strength of the 110 goes, use it as a knife and you'll almost never have a problem and you have the Buck guarantee.
The only recent purchase that the price rubbed me a bit was the Spyderco Kiwi 4. I really like the knife with G10 scales, but street price over $100.... and VG10 to boot...
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Buck 110 has been a fine cutting tool for decades. People become defensive of any criticism of it. Some don't want to admit there's been advances over the decades and continue to claim it's as strong as modern folders, despite the fact it does indeed use a small threadless pivot, that cannot stand up as well as larger screw type pivots.
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Prices for new knives has pretty much pushed me out of collecting.
I bought a Sebenza Insingo on the secondary market recently.
That is pretty much it as far as me buying knives.
In fact I will probably stop coming around here because my wallet just cannot handle it anymore.
I bought a Sebenza Insingo on the secondary market recently.
That is pretty much it as far as me buying knives.
In fact I will probably stop coming around here because my wallet just cannot handle it anymore.
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Temptation is a powerful force, isn't it?
There is a lot of interest in knives right now and enough people have money to spend. The knife market is not consistent though, some brands and models are popular, others not so popular. I've been buying knives for a long time and I find a lot of knives that I bought 10 or 20 years ago that have not changed significantly in value in that amount of time, but there are others that increase in value pretty fast.
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The values or current values never really concerned me with knives. I either like it or I don't. Knives are just money poured down a hole for me. But we all need our hobbies.
Yes, demand seems very strong, and that's what emboldens the manufactures to raise prices - simply because they can. I also noticed, roughly 2 years ago, that knives on the used for sale forums seem to sell very quickly. Do people have more disposable income these days or are there simply more people interested in knives? Either way, maybe the economy truly is doing better?
But the prices didn't "literally double" on those, hence my question. He said the prices doubled-I want to know which, cause most of them anyway did not. Unless he's referring to the AUS-8 models being put on clearance to gt rid of them to make way for the new models. That caused a a big dropping way down in price, but it would NOT have happened without the new models coming out and so you can't really use those prices as a measuring stick.
For example, Rajah 2 in new steel, $110. Rajah 2 in AUS-8, prior to the clearance following the annoucement of the new steel? $85. Recon 1 in new steel, $100, Recon 1 in AUS-8 prior to clearance? $70-75. 4'' Ti-Lite in new steel, $80, 4'' Ti-Lite in AUS-8, prior to the clearance? $55. D2 Leatherneck, $78. Old model Leatherneck prior to clearance? $55-60. I'm no math whiz or nothing, but those new model prices don't look "literally double" to me.
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I think it's just because the economy is bad. Everything is expensive nowadays...but I definitely feel what you're saying, OP. I can't just throw $120 (now more like $200) at a knife willy nilly like I used to anymore. I haven't bought a new knife in about a year now because of soaring prices. It's worse when you're Canadian; the dollar is really weak right now, so I don't have the same buying power that I used to.
Buck seems to have a handle on stabilizing their prices, and American-made Bucks have always been exemplary knives. Maybe I should just buy more from them.
Jill and Mike are correct about Cold Steel's value and strength, but their prices are soaring way above Buck's right now, especially with the recent switch to more expensive steels. I don't know when I'll buy another Cold Steel knife just because they're so much more expensive than they were just a couple years ago.
Buck seems to have a handle on stabilizing their prices, and American-made Bucks have always been exemplary knives. Maybe I should just buy more from them.
Jill and Mike are correct about Cold Steel's value and strength, but their prices are soaring way above Buck's right now, especially with the recent switch to more expensive steels. I don't know when I'll buy another Cold Steel knife just because they're so much more expensive than they were just a couple years ago.
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That's the challenge though, find em and buy end cheap. That's hard to do with modern knives, tactical in particular but I find great deals on knives that are 40-100 years old most times for less than $10. Most of my accumulation was acquired that way and I've gotten some really nice old knives in great condition for less than that.
The deals are, out there, just have to be patient and know where and how to look.
I think he is referring to the AUS-8 models that were on clearance and the new XHP.
