Wusthof, Henckles, Cutco, Sabatier

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I don't see the results up there, is that the right link?

I'm interested in seeing how those other brands compare to each other. As for the brand you represent, aren't they serrated? Comparing plain-edged and serrated edge retention is a bit dubious.
 
xbboychink said:
wow wow... hold on there guys

i'm a cutco rep too and i have full faith in the product

this is a sales job. it's a hard job, but if you can do sales, you can do anything. it's not a get rich quick scheme. if you're mature enough to know about business in general, you know that a sales job will put you up in the ranks.
it's a lot of work, my friend used to be a sales rep, now he's selling insurance and real estate on the side. he consistently makes 100k a year. SALES AND ENTERTAINMENT are the only feilds where it is possible to make your 6 figures as a rookie.

seeing is beleiving. what if Henkels said they were the best? what if Wustoff said our designs were the best?
you wouldn't beleive them until you try it out right?
that's where sales reps come in.
we are part of the DSA - Direct Selling Association
We do by customer recommendations only. we can't randomly knock on doors or make cold calls. we sit down one-to-one and show why our product is the #1 seller in North America.
Henkels is #1 SOLD IN STORES. but you can't get Cutco in stores. that's why it makes Cutco CHEAPER.
We DO NOT have Warehousing Costs
We DO NOT have Retailing Costs
We DO NOT have Shipping Costs
We DO NOT have ALL THE OVERHEADS APPLIED IN RETAIL STORES
This is why we can make HIGHER quality products and still be able to sell it cheaper than Henkels or Wustoff or other COMPARABLE knives.
You all know they're made in the USA. And USA = Quality. it takes 4-6 hours to make a ford explorer.. but 4-6 WEEKS to make a batch of cutco. if it werent for us sales reps, the people making them wouldn't have food on their tables. this in turn helps the american economy. we do over 180mil in sales per year... if we weren't here, that 180mil would go to a military budget or something not invested back in the american people.

Our forever guarantee is unbeatable... NO RECEIPT NECESSARY
Cutco backs their knives FOREVER. Pass it down to your grandchildren and they can get the product replaced for FREE. The knives ARE your proof of purchase.

If you have any questions... well you shouldn't
:eek: :mad: :jerkit: :cool: :confused: :thumbdn: :grumpy: :thumbup: cool lol
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I have a question. Why would you settle for a mere 100k a year for selling Cutco when you can earn millions for helping out the wife of an imprisoned Nigerian general?
 
I certainly have no questions at all.

440A stamped and high overpriced vs a forged ice hardened blade.

gee I wonder which one I would rather own. :D.
 
Dakki said:
I don't see the results up there, is that the right link?

I'm interested in seeing how those other brands compare to each other. As for the brand you represent, aren't they serrated? Comparing plain-edged and serrated edge retention is a bit dubious.
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I'm sry, but I can't find the link to the info...:eek:

This looks really bad.:o

What you will find from that link is that catra is a specialized machine used not only by cutco, but Spyderco and a number of other companies.

I will try to find a link to the info... stay tuned.

To the person accusing me of spamming: I am a regular at these forums. I just posted some negative feedback about thebladshop.com because I ordered a benchmade knife and they have been really sketchy about it.

What can I say, cutco doesn't make the best folding knives. Just really awesome kitchen cutlery.:thumbup:
 
Bastid said:
I certainly have no questions at all.

440A stamped and high overpriced vs a forged ice hardened blade.

gee I wonder which one I would rather own. :D.
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I've received letters from past customers who have switched from henckels to cutco. They love the cutco and couldn't be happier.

You are oversimplifying the options. If you had seen the catra test results like I have then you wouldn't be making that statement.
 
I own a couple of Cutcos given to me and a set of Pro S's.

I am not oversimplifying anything. You sell overpriced junk no matter how you want to spin things.

Henckles makes serveral lines. Some are stamped others are forged (fully).

There is no comparison other than the Cutcos are total junk compared to the Professional S knives.

I will state my reputation here on that and that is a no hype fact.
 
ok. I'm not going to waste any more of my time here. This will be my final comment: The lady who sent me the letter sharpened her henckels before comparing it to the cutco chef knife (unsharpened). I'm glad you are happy with your knives, but bashing cutco and calling it junk seems a bit silly. Henckels are great, I would never bash them... they just don't perform at the same level as cutco. People sharpen their knives all the time (in front of me) before attempting to beat the cutco in the various tests we do. Cutco has always performed better.
 
Like I said,

I own both sharpen both and there is no comparison just Cutco hype.

I have nothing to gain or loose other than telling the truth since I do not work for either company.

Just presenting what I have learned from direct experience.

BTW I like Wustoff's Trident line better than the Pro S.
 
pitbullct said:
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To the person accusing me of spamming: I am a regular at these forums. I just posted some negative feedback about thebladshop.com because I ordered a benchmade knife and they have been really sketchy about it.
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1. Not you. "Hiei" who reopened the "ball."

2. You are not a "regular" here unless you use several names, but evryone has to start somewhere.

3. Country of origin is no more a guarantee of quality than is price. Terrible knives have been made in the USA -- and Germany.
 
Yes, here is another CUTCO sales rep speaking, but please don't think we're brainwashed or anything. If CUTCO wasn't a good product and was some kind of scam we would have been shut down YEARS AGO. Also, If Vector (our Marketing Corp, who owns the rights to CUTCO) was a "pyramid scam" then why would 5 of senate members and congressmen's children be allowed to work there? Thats right, in my personal office there have been 5 Politian's children who have worked there. I'm just here to help clear some things up. Some things are stuff that I personally have learned since starting there, and others are stuff directly from our Document Library that we have access to. I hope this information is helpful.

Also, please understand that, yes, CUTCO is a HUGE investment, but its the one thing in your life that you purchase that WILL NOT depreciate. Think about this, a car- drops about 1/3 in price the minute you drive off the lot. A tv- can last a while but within at least 5 years the technology will change and what you have will just become obsolete. A computer- hell, computer depreciate SO QUICKLY because there is always something much cooler. If you ask someone who bought CUTCO 30 years ago, of course they'll say it was cheaper then, but believe me they are happy they got it when they did and they love it. I personally do believe in this product, as do a lot of people, and i do believe everyone should ATLEAST try it out but I can't force anyone to get something they don't want. CUTCO can also be affordable for everyone, there are so many different options as well as different payment options. I'm sorry to those who have a bad opinion of CUTCO because you either heard bad things or you've had a bad experience with a Sales Rep. If they weren't knowledgeable or help you understand everything shame on them.

I've seen a lot of the same questions about how CUTCO is made and what its made of... Here's a break down:

Blade: High Carbon Surgical Stainless steel Grade 440 A. It has a rockwell hardness of 55-57c. All the steel is made in the united states. CUTCO is produced from AISI (American Iron and Steel Institute) Type 440A high carbon stainless steel. When properly heat-treated, 440A steel produces the optimum balance between hardness, toughness and corrosion resistance. It is the perfect choice for high quality cutlery because of its ability to take and hold a fine, sharp edge. The chemical composition of 440A stainless is:
Chromium 16 – 18% To assure the maximum corrosion resistance.
Carbon .60 – .75% The ideal amount to assure the optimum
balance between hardness and brittleness. Yields a blade tough enough to allow flexing, yet hard enough to take and hold a sharp edge that can be resharpened.
Molybdenum .75% Max Aids in hardening and improves corrosion
resistance.
Manganese 1% Max Adds strength and hardening capability of the
steel.
Iron 78% Base material in all steels.

The handle is made out of Thermo-resin. Thermo-resin is a technical term for a variety of thermoplastic resins. Just as the term “metal” includes all metals, e.g., gold, silver, lead, brass and zinc, the term “thermo-resin” includes a wide variety of plastic materials with different properties for different needs. The material used in CUTCO handles is an acetal copolymer thermo-resin. This engineering plastic material was selected for specific characteristics such as strength, impact resistance, dishwasher endurance, chemical resistance, the ability to be polished to a high luster and long-term durability.

Also, if CUTCO wasn't such a great product, it wouldn't currently hold 53% of the market right now. There are over 15 million SATISFIED CUTCO owners. About $1 million dollars worth of CUTCO is sold EVERYDAY.
 
An old girlfriend of mine was a rep, and she gave me their (Cutco's) ice cream scoop as a present. Ignoring the fact that it was the lamest birthday present ever, it did turn out to be the greatest ice cream scoop I have ever owned. The knives are utter crap, of course, but they make damn handy ice cream scoops!

...old threads are fun. :p
 
1. "Cutco," endorsed by politician's children." How super. :rolleyes:

2. 440A is cheap, mediocre steel -- no great shakes for edge-holding. While it's good enough kitchen use, your praise of 440A tells us all we need to know about your expertise in things steely.

3. I have passed on many Cutco knives at estate/house/garage sales over thirty-five years. They typically go for $1.00. The market speaks thus on "depreciation."

4. Cutco does not hold 53% of the kitchen cutlery market. That market is dominated by more cheaply-made products - mostly from Asia. So millions of customer's purchases don't mean beans as to objective quality.

Save your breath to cool your porridge.
 
It's time for this thread to move to another forum.
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Being in business and making money has never guaranteed the product sold is great. Hype is hype and hype makes money.

I tried Cutco, they did not perform as I was told they would. I will stay with my forged kitchen knives and stay away from Cutco. $1400 plus for a set is ludicrous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
 
i thought selling cutco was like selling rainbow vaccuum cleaners if anyone remembers them, or hell for all i know they still may be selling them.

overpriced/overhyped and the folks who sell them have as much chance of making $100K a yr as i do being a male stripper lol.
 
It seems that everyone has their favorite knife. And, ITT, there seems to be a lot of prejudice about particular brands. "Psshaw!"

I just bought a Cutco "petite chef's" (non-serrated) from a high-school kid. Why would I do this? I have an arsenal of fine knives in my kitchen, from vintage German Coles, to modern Henckles and Wusthofs. Some cost MUCH more than the new Cutco.

Why did I buy it? Because I like how it feels, how it cuts, and it passed my tests: I took it into the kitchen, pulled out an old cutting board, and whacked a new groove into it. Then I took the ham our of the refrigerator, and sawed through the bone. Then I took out a ripe tomato, and sliced see-through slices. Next, I tested the angle of curve by slicing a carrot, a handful of green onions, and an onion. The angle of curve was perfect (better for me than the curve on my Wusthof), and the knife was still sharp after the initial abuse. (I didn't want the "DD" because I like to sharpen my knives myself.)

I must admit that the kid that was selling to me surely thought his knife was ruined. But it wasn't.

Do I care what kind of steel it's made of? No. (I have handmade knives made out of old car leaf-springs!) I normally use a sharpening steel on a blade EVERY TIME I use it, but a knife must be able to hold an edge for me to be happy with it. Do I care if it rusts? No. Any steel will rust given the right circumstances. ANY STEEL. (Leave your fancy knife in a bucket of bleach or Lysol overnight and see if it pits.)

What I want is a knife that feels good to me, and does what I want it to. That's why I have a variety of brands; they make me happy.

If you are a fanatic about forged steel, or a particular brand of knife, you will always be looking for the "latest and greatest." My latest knife is the first I have bought in five (5) years, and it (the Cutco) is because my cutting style has improved (speed and accuracy) over time, and I needed a curve that better fit my needs on my chef's knife.

Now I have it.

Cutting contests, anyone? :D
 
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