Zero Tolerance 0562CF vs. Spyderco Southard

Zero Tolerance 0562CF or Spyderco Southard?

  • Zero Tolerance 0562CF

    Votes: 4 80.0%

  • Spyderco Southard

    Votes: 1 20.0%
  • Total voters
    5
Dont think there are many people looking for a sub 3 inch hard use knife out there for it to be worth while for them to retool and take time on production floor. They have enough trouble keeping up now not worth their time. I could be wrong wouldnt be the first time.
 
nwmetalbug said:
Dont think there are many people looking for a sub 3 inch hard use knife out there for it to be worth while for them to retool and take time on production floor. They have enough trouble keeping up now not worth their time. I could be wrong wouldnt be the first time.
Click to expand...

By sub 3" I meant like 2.95" for places where the regs say under 3".

There's a reason Hinderer has the XM-18 3", CRK the small Sebenza and Strider the PT. They're all small and plenty tough.
 
PTRBEE said:
The only complaint I have with the Southard is the Spidey hole. I just wish Spyderco swallowed their pride for a moment and left their "signature" off this one. Its not even functional in this instance and really takes away from the look of the blade.
Click to expand...

Ha! well said but I don't think it would happen. Have you seen the spidey hole on the pingo?
 
does the 0562CF bottom out in the pocket with the low rider clip? I know the 3.5 xm-18 comes close and rides quite a bit higher in the pocket.....
 
RamZar said:
By sub 3" I meant like 2.95" for places where the regs say under 3".

There's a reason Hinderer has the XM-18 3", CRK the small Sebenza and Strider the PT. They're all small and plenty tough.
Click to expand...

And they're all very popular, too. Not everybody needs to carry a big, hard-use knife. Some people just like to cut stuff. ;)
 
Last edited:
Got the domino and it's smaller brother dice. Dice has A LOT more pocket time.
Mini southard and mini 0562 CF with 2.95" blade are perfection to me.

Btw, I heard about this BIG RIVER knife store offering better deal. Is it local or online?
 
I voted 0562 despite not entirely liking the company who designed it. And I had to vote against the southard despite thinking brad is a super nice guy. To me , they're both equally impressive as far as materials used so I'm going strictly off of aesthetics. The spyderco southard is just plain ugly. I wish that spyderco had licensed the design of really any other southard design because the awt is just retarded looking. I also wish that southard had simply used spyderco's facilities to manufacture the avo because that's a freaking sweet knife and I would buy one for the same price as the current zt and spyderco models.
 
Last edited:
Insipid Moniker said:
See, you're in the wrong thread but this is not a conversation that's unwelcome here. Head over to Wilderness & Survival Skills or some of the other subforums and chat away! Honestly, it sounds like you've got experience to contribute, and I think that's valuable, but you won't get a warm reception by crashing threads to tell others how to spend their money. Welcome aboard, look around and you'll almost certainly find some like minded folks.
Click to expand...

+1 on an encouraging response
I picked the 562CF
I just got the regular 562 last week and love it, this is my 4th ZT and I'm not done yet
I will wait for the price to come down on the cf model
Either one is awful darn close to a real Hinderer for only $200 - $250
 
bodog said:
I voted 0562 despite not entirely liking the company who designed it.
Click to expand...

I like the company just fine. I'm not crazy about some of the people who represent it, though. And I agree that the Southard isn't the most handsome knife in the world. But it packs a whole lotta cutting edge into 4 ounces. As I said before, it also dresses up real nice:

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/1192749

:)
 
Last edited:
The Southard has been labeled as being awkward by those dealers I have spoken with.
I think it looks cool, but it was too small for my med+ hands and I didn't care for the ergonomics either.
Would much rather have my 0562CF, but a 3" version would interest me none. Make it bigger ;)
 
You want bigger, get an 0560. ;) FYI, the Southard fits my medium-sized hand perfectly and it feels anything but awkward to me. Quite the opposite, actually. It's the most comfortable Spyderco I own . . . asymmetrical scale and all. So as always, it's different strokes for different folks. :)
 
Last edited:
RamZar said:
No. ZT just isn't into skeletonizing like Spyderco is famous for.
Click to expand...

The pictured liners appears to have different shade. Frame lock side has the titanium appearance, while the opposite liner, lighter as cres most often shown.

Are the liners 100% titanium?
 
victorf said:
The pictured liners appears to have different shade. Frame lock side has the titanium appearance, while the opposite liner, lighter as cres most often shown.

Are the liners 100% titanium?
Click to expand...

Both sides of the Southard's handles are titanium including the liner.

"The Southard’s handle combines a textured Earth-brown G-10 scale and thick titanium liner on one side with a solid titanium scale on the other. The titanium scale forms the foundation of the knife’s sturdy Reeve Integral Lock (R.I.L.) mechanism and features a small inlaid G-10 panel that acts as an overtravel stop when releasing the lock mechanism."​
 
I really wanted to like the Southward, but the handle was just too thick for having a narrow design, it made it feel too short in the hand. The difference in the thicknesses of the framelock and scale side also put me off. I sold the one I had shortly after I got it. Haven't tried the 562 yet though, but it looks like I'd pick it over the Southard. Except for the 350, most ZTs work for me.
 
I picked the Southard because I love the way it fits my hand. I also find it interesting to look at. I don't own the 0562, but I am going by the 0560 and the XM-18 that I do have. Hinderer designs are great over built knives, but I don't carry them as often due to their size and weight.
 
I've had a Southard for awhile now and just got the ZT 0562cf. I really like both, but find the Southard, despite its odd shape, to be the better knife for me. I base this on a few things: 1) it's lighter and much slimmer, so it's just plain nicer to carry (especially with the deep carry pocket-clip I got). 2) I find the ergonomics for my medium hand-size to be very good and nearly as good as the ZT (admittedly, the ZT does win out though). 3) The Southard's closure is much nicer IMO - the ZT has a tendency to drop like a guillotine sometimes…I never feel like the Southard will drop too fast and cause injury. 4) The blade shape of the Southard, to me, is superior - it slices very well and allows for more material to be cut per cutting stroke than the ZT (using newspaper as a simple test). 5) though both knives are about the same blade length, the ZT is much less "people friendly" - on the "weapon" vs. "tool" spectrum it comes across as more of the former. 6) the Southard's scale is "grippier" and feels more secure to me in-hand.

I do give the edge to the ZT for hard use though, it's built like a tank and will definitely be a knife I go to as a companion for a fixed blade. Blade deployment is sightly better too, though a lubricated Southard can be just as easy to deploy.

Anyway, those are my thoughts.
 
Last edited:
Jasonsdman said:
I picked the Southard because I love the way it fits my hand. I also find it interesting to look at. I don't own the 0562, but I am going by the 0560 and the XM-18 that I do have. Hinderer designs are great over built knives, but I don't carry them as often due to their size and weight.
Click to expand...

Try a 0562. I have every Hinderer ZT there is (I believe) and the 0560 is a giant. The tapered tail end, and the beveled edges, of the 0562 are vast improvements over the 0560 in regards to carrying and ergonomics. If you like Hinderer designs, you'll love the 0562 once you have one in your hand. And once you flip one open, you'll really be hooked.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top