Zero Tolerance Liner Lock Closures?

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DocJD said:
If lock strength and reliability, even under "hard use" and abuse, is the main concern , then the Cold Steel Tri-ad lock is probably the BEST solution , overall . :):thumbsup:
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How about a fixed blade instead :confused: beating the hell out of a folder which includes a cold steel with a tri ad lock causes things to get loose and wear.

If only there was a knife without all the moving parts for real hard use :confused:
 
craytab said:
And if you require the strength of the triad lock you shouldn't be using a folding knife.......which is not the point of this thread, and is in fact a discussion we were trying to get away from, so thanks for bringing it back :rolleyes:

This thread isn't about lock strength or fixed blades. It is about a specific problem from a specific company.
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Damn it, beat me to it.
 
Steely_Gunz said:
This has been suggested about half a dozen times in this thread. I don't mean to be curt, but it's really not helpful...at all. No one here with ZT issues is saying, "Whycome the foldy knife fold? They shuld make a foldy knife that dun fold!"

The issue is that some folks have paid for a premium product marketed as being super tough, and some of them are failing very light testing...not real world testing, mind you. I still find these failures academic and not earth-shaddering. Still, it's frustrating when you can buy a knife for half the price and it not slip off the lock.

The biggest issue I see is that when folks are sending their knives for warranty work, they are being returned without repair. I'm a bit miffed myself. I sent a 350 in that would fail with simple light pressure on the spine. I paid a few extra bucks to have the blade replaced. I figured the issue was with the grind on the blade, not the lock.

My 350 with new blade still will fail. So that either means I got another crappy grind on the blade or my liner lock is ground wrong which kinda sucks.

I have probably a dozen sub 2" fixed blades. I routinely carry a small karda (khukuri accessory knife) in my watch pocket. More days than not I have a Fiddleback Hiking Buddy on my hip. They are great small fixed blade knives, and very useful...but they don't make spending $140 on a knife, 10 bucks to ship it back, and another 30 to swap out the blade only to have it still fold when I don't want it to any easier to swallow.
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I'm torn on this topic. I don't think of any of my folders as super tough. It doesn't matter the lock type. And, as previously mentioned, a lot of marketing prose is total hype. Not just for knives. It's partially on ZT and partially on it's customers. I have a 0450 and 0460 and a 0609. None make me think of taking them through the jungle.
 
bambam99 said:
Yes I have read the thread and posted multiple times.
Everyone that has sent it in lately has had it fixed, have you read the thread?

In fact one of my earlier posts asked if their was anyone who sent their knife in and was denied having it fixed by ZT.
Only a couple posters mentioned sending theirs in and they got fixed.
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Maybe try reading it again.

Various members including even a moderator are saying they got their ZTs back without repair.
 
Lapedog said:
Maybe try reading it again.

Various members including even a moderator are saying they got their ZTs back without repair.
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Nah I can read fine thanks.
Maybe you should try re-reading.

Anyone who has sent it in LATELY to ZT has gotten it fixed, read the posts.

Cheers.
 
bambam99 said:
Nah I can read fine thanks.
Maybe you should try re-reading.

Anyone who has sent it in LATELY to ZT has gotten it fixed, read the posts.

Cheers.
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Mine was probably 6-8 months ago. Do you count that as "recent"? I don't think they're going to magically change their warranty practices in that time.
 
marrenmiller said:
Mine was probably 6-8 months ago. Do you count that as "recent"? I don't think they're going to magically change their warranty practices in that time.
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No I dont count that as recent.

Never said they were changing their warranty practices.

However those who have sent in recently have been fixed.
I'd suggest you try again.
If my knife had issues I'd send it back until fixed. Just like if a mechanic didnt fix my car.
 
bambam99 said:
No I dont count that as recent.

Never said they were changing their warranty practices.

However those who have sent in recently have been fixed.
I'd suggest you try again.
If my knife had issues I'd send it back until fixed. Just like if a mechanic didnt fix my car.
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Dude there was another member who was updating us in real time like 2 weeks ago on this thread telling us they would let us know how the knife came back. There are several people on this thread that has sent their knife in and has got it retuned not fixed has been recent, within the last few months.

One guy got his knife returned and all they did was scratch up the tang side lockface.

You can’t tell me that people in this thread all got their knives fixed when they sent them in. Actually if you would actually read the thread instead of being a smartass you would see virtually everyone who sent their knives in ZT did not fix the issue.
 
"No I dont count that as recent."

So why does sending it in "recently", whatever that means, matter to you?
 
marrenmiller said:
"No I dont count that as recent."

So why does sending it in "recently", whatever that means, matter to you?
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Don’t bother he hasn’t read the thread. He seems upset and is trying to white knight ZT I guess.

bambam99 bambam99 this whole thread has been about people complaining that they send their ZT in and it comes back without getting repaired. No one is talking about a knife they sent in a while ago, it is all recent.

The other thing the thread is about is the fact that ZT hasn’t acknowledged the problem.
 
bambam99 said:
No I dont count that as recent.

Never said they were changing their warranty practices.

However those who have sent in recently have been fixed.
I'd suggest you try again.
If my knife had issues I'd send it back until fixed. Just like if a mechanic didnt fix my car.
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Btw we’re glad they fixed your knife. That experience doesn’t reflect on other customers though.

Also what issue did they fix? This is pertaining specifically to them not fixing lockslip caused by poor lock geometry on knives with defective lockup.

The most they try to do is bend the lockbar in and then scratch up the tang of the knife. The problem is many times this does not fix the issue.
 
Lapedog said:
Btw we’re glad they fixed your knife. That experience doesn’t reflect on other customers though.

Also what issue did they fix? This is pertaining specifically to them not fixing lockslip caused by poor lock geometry on knives with defective lockup.

The most they try to do is bend the lockbar in and then scratch up the tang of the knife. The problem is many times this does not fix the issue.
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If you read the thread... well sorry read and comprehend the thread.
Youd see I never sent any in because I haven't had issues with my 10 plus ZTs.

There are posts of guys with them sending them in and getting fixed.
Simple if you have issues...send it in. If it doesn't get fixed hold them accountable until it gets fixed.

I'm not saying people haven't had issues... but also when I posted there wasn't a single post I saw where someone sent it in and ZT blatantly said no we aren't fixing it.
Show me that.
 
marrenmiller said:
"No I dont count that as recent."

So why does sending it in "recently", whatever that means, matter to you?
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How would you expect half a year ago to be recent ?
That would never constitute anyone's definition of recent.
"What did you do recently?" You wouldnt reply with "well 6 months ago I went to the beach"

I'm just saying if you want it fixed...send it in.
They seem to be fixing peoples issues.
 
Kbrasmodeler said:
Girls, girls. You're both pretty!

Maybe we could focus a little less on each other's reading/comprehension, and more on the topic?
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Agreed I was on topic until someone claims I'm not reading multiple times then I'll address that.


All being said I agree ZT has not admitted there is a problem, which if some members are having failures there is a problem.
 
bambam99 said:
If you read the thread... well sorry read and comprehend the thread.
Youd see I never sent any in because I haven't had issues with my 10 plus ZTs.

There are posts of guys with them sending them in and getting fixed.
Simple if you have issues...send it in. If it doesn't get fixed hold them accountable until it gets fixed.

I'm not saying people haven't had issues... but also when I posted there wasn't a single post I saw where someone sent it in and ZT blatantly said no we aren't fixing it.
Show me that.
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You clearly haven’t read the thread or you would have seen where people comment that they are upset ZT is not addressing the issue.

ZT does not have representation on bladeforums so I don’t expect they will comment on this thread at all. But this issue is not only being brought up on bladeforums, it is being brought up on instagram and youtube etc. People are upset ZT hasn’t commented anywhere and seems to be ignoring the problem. Of course you would know that if you read the thread.

Why are you trying to convince me you read the thread when it is so obvious you didn’t? Why are you trying to defend ZTs repair practices when you’ve never had them repair a knife for you?

Do you know what reading comprehension is? Part of it involves reading.
 
bambam99 said:
Agreed I was on topic until someone claims I'm not reading multiple times then I'll address that.
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Several posts of:
"Re-read the thread..."
"No, you re-read the thread..."
"How dare you tell me to re-read the thread! Now, go re-read the thread..."
Kinda lose the topic.
 
Kbrasmodeler said:
Several posts of:
"Re-read the thread..."
"No, you re-read the thread..."
"How dare you tell me to re-read the thread! Now, go re-read the thread..."
Kinda lose the topic.
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I’m not telling him to reread the thread. I’m telling him to read it once before stating that there is no issue.
 
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