2012 Forum Knife - Fate of the Knife Poll

Vote on the Fate of the 2012 Forum Knife

  • Keep it as is - I'm willing to pay $125

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  • Remove the clip blade to lower the cost

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Start from the drawing board

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  • It's over Johnny. It was fun while it lasted

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Other (open to suggestions)

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I'm in for one as long as it stays 2 blades. I already have enough single blade knives, some with a wharncliffe blade, that I would likely drop out if it were reduced to a single blade wharncliffe. I'd also like to see a drawn swedge instead of a cut swedge on the wharncliffe.

To those saying that the wharncliffe sits too high, this is done so that the nail nick can be accessed. If the nail nick were moved to the pile side, which is contrary to the Bose pattern, the blade could be dropped lower. Personally, I like it as-is. I'm open to a Turkish clip though, depending on execution.
 
I voted other - The Government in post #55 sums up my thoughts. The blades in the pictures (Bose custom) are more what I am interested in - narrower, lower profile, sunk more. The blades in the drawing are definitely wider, higher, etc.

Is it possible for GEC to make this knife with the narrower, lower profile blades, similar to most of the Bose custom WTs that are out there? Would the frame have to be smaller (3.5"?) for this to work? For me, the low profile blades are key this particular pattern.
 
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I'd be in for 1 of the proposed design. If its drops to just a wharncliffe, price would be a big factor for me.
 
I keep hearing Tony Bose pattern, but doesn't T. Bose do mill relieved liners, pivot bushings and hollow ground blades??

Someone correct me if I'm wrong about that. But if I'm correct is GEC doing this and that is the reason for the extra cost?
 
Im in for one...would love it to be a bit smaller at 3.5inch, but should be a great knife either way. JT
 
Just to add, I'm not trying to be critical. I'm just asking questions that the answers may seem obvious to. I know GEC does flat grinds, doesn't do mil relieved liners or pivot bushings. But they could.

I also want to add, even though I'm not a huge fan of two blades of the same size I do like this knife as is. I really support the idea of a new pattern as opposed to using the 48 frame. I also like the size. I have a lot of 73's and this doesn't remind me of that frame either.

I hope it makes it. That's all from me.

Kevin
 
Kevin.....

Hey you've got some great questions going but I doubt very highly we'll see milled liners and pivot bushings.......what we're seeing I bet is the additional cost of setting up a new pattern...someone has to bear some of the cost...
 
Jim,

Thanks for your thoughts. I bet you are correct. The only knife I got in on at the beginning was the 71 orange test run. The initial premium was worth every penny and some if you ask me.

Thanks,

Kevin
 
As Nick, Government, and others have pointed out, I prefer the Turkish clip blade configuration. Also, I too am concerned that the proposed price point of our 2012 bladeforums knife is considerably more than similarly configured knives produced by GEC. Why the increase in price? Is the price quoted for one of the higher end stainless steels (12C27, ATS-34, 154cm)?

Given the voting pattern to date, the "as is" is the clear front runner. I like the overall pattern, but hope the blade configuration (as described above) can be tweaked. That said, since I would like to see the clip blade swapped out for the Turkish clip, I have voted OTHER. I'm probably in for at least 1.

Lastly, thank you to the 2012 project team for keeping the project on track.

Jay
 
I don't mind paying the extra money to get tooling in place, but only if that means that the pattern is what we here in the traditional forum have specified. Personally I am for the slimmer Turkish clip and a slim wharncliffe like many others have stated.
 
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Kevin.....
Hey you've got some great questions going but I doubt very highly we'll see milled liners and pivot bushings.......what we're seeing I bet is the additional cost of setting up a new pattern...someone has to bear some of the cost...
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Bill @ Great Eastern has said that because they do not make a model at all similar to this, the tooling will cost $5000, which / 200 = $25 extra per knife. That said, he's working on putting together pricing and alternatives
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I am asking with due respect fitting this forum


...someone has to bear some of the cost...
if this pattern is going to be introducted into GECs production line then it is their production cost, not ours
We last year had a new pattern that GEC introduced into their production line

I do not see why all of us need spend an extra $25 per knife to cover GEC's overhead cost of $5000 in their producing a new pattern


Please someone on from the team explain

Thanks
 
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I see it as the cost of putting ourselves in the GEC product development team.

GEC has good product "mobility" in that they often create new patterns and handle scales, but to be directly in charge of that development is a privilege.

Sure, there will be many people who benefit from us taking on this cost (when they buy this pattern after GEC releases public versions), but those people who benefit will have never had the chance to actually make the decision -like we are. That is what we are paying for.

(All the more reason to make sure we get exactly what we want, collectively.)
 
Government,

My company produces cutting edge equipment for the semi-conductor industry
When we meet our customers very demanding requests, we are very pleased to sell our product to them
They get the improvement first
They improve their production ahead of their competition
But we do not charge them extra
We know that by meeting their needs they will keep coming back to us


That GEC benefits from us as customer in their mobility is to their great financial advantage, having a very educated public directly involved in their production
This is the second time they have produced a knife for us, and marketed the new pattern

A great privilege but not our paying them money for their production costs.
 
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