2018 BF Traditional Knife

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Peregrin said:
If you missed something, so did I. I'd be curious to know what that rule is myself.
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I am only saying this due to some folks might not be appreciative of a "modern" alloy.

I thought it was stated that essentially stainless is stainless, in regards to traditional knives. This is due to the folks that carried traditional knives wouldn't know the difference between 420hc or S110V aside from sharpening and edge retention, since reactivity is not a factor and that is what it would be gauged upon.

Due to this, it wouldn't matter if the company only offered S35Vn, or CPM154 as options, since stainless is traditional. I will be editing this to provide my citation.

As per @Blues in the stickied thread for traditional guidelines:
"Stainless steel has been used in cutlery since the 1920's, so stainless is considered traditional. And even though PM alloys are new developments, that fella in the mid-1960's would never know the difference if he were looking at the knife, so they are OK, too."
 
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Since I haven’t been around for the creation of a BF knife in the past, who’s decision is it?
 
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Since I haven’t been around for the creation of a BF knife in the past, who’s decision is it?
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My understanding is that the decision ultimately lies with Spark as it is his forum that is being represented. Otherwise, I am not sure who is responsible for getting the BladeForums stamp where it needs to go for the proposed knife.
 
NJBillK said:
As per @Blues in the stickied thread for traditional guidelines:
"Stainless steel has been used in cutlery since the 1920's, so stainless is considered traditional. And even though PM alloys are new developments, that fella in the mid-1960's would never know the difference if he were looking at the knife, so they are OK, too."
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That's not intended to imply that discussing different steels is not allowed. To the contrary, it was an attempt to explain why we allow showing and discussing knives with the modern steels, as long as they would be viewed by someone in 1960 (which could have been me) without having them drop their jaw and exclaim, "What the heck is that?".
 
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Pàdruig said:
My understanding is that the decision ultimately lies with Spark as it is his forum that is being represented. Otherwise, I am not sure who is responsible for getting the BladeForums stamp where it needs to go for the proposed knife.
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The last number of years it's been Charlie and Barry who have jumped through the hoops, made the financial guarantees, worked with the manufacturers, handled distribution, got Spark's blessing and did it all for no profit. It's a lot to ask and I wouldn't fault anyone for saying no more.
 
Peregrin said:
That's not intended to imply that discussing different steels is not allowed. To the contrary, it was an attempt to explain why we allow showing and discussing knives with the modern steels, as long as they would be viewed by someone in 1960 (which could have been me) without having them drop their jaw and exclaim, "What the heck is that?".
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I can understand that. The way that I read it, I took it to mean that the inclusion of a modern stainless on a traditional knife isn't blasphemous. With that being the case, could be a possibility on this knife in particular.
Especially if it adds a manufacturer to the limited roster.

I know they have a pocket clip on their slip joint, but that could easily be omitted.
 
Peregrin said:
The last number of years it's been Charlie and Barry who have jumped through the hoops, made the financial guarantees, worked with the manufacturers, handled distribution, got Spark's blessing and did it all for no profit. It's a lot to ask and I wouldn't fault anyone for saying no more.
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I wouldn't fault them either if they choose not to. I haven't been privy to past efforts but I was involved with the 2017 conversation which basically was a crash course for me in how desirable limited runs get hashed out and distributed. A process that was fraught with stress, angst, and more than a little frustration and that is only what we saw in the threads here, I couldn't imagine the hassle that they had to endure behind the scenes.

I think it has been mentioned that there are a couple of "dots" left in terms of the stamp dating, it would be cool to try and at least finish it out, but that decision lies with the powers that be.
 
Peregrin said:
The last number of years it's been Charlie and Barry who have jumped through the hoops, made the financial guarantees, worked with the manufacturers, handled distribution, got Spark's blessing and did it all for no profit. It's a lot to ask and I wouldn't fault anyone for saying no more.
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I'm guessing that some folks would be willing to shoulder parts of the burden that Charlie and Barry have shouldered, if possible. I think the biggest barrier at this point is ignorance of what exactly is required and whether such requirements could be reasonably delegated to a number of extra volunteers. Maybe this has all been discussed in the past? Maybe it is a job that can only be done by a couple of hard working folks with time rather than portioned out? I'm too new to know, but I'd like to help if I can.
 
JTB_5 said:
I'm guessing that some folks would be willing to shoulder parts of the burden that Charlie and Barry have shouldered, if possible. I think the biggest barrier at this point is ignorance of what exactly is required and whether such requirements could be reasonably delegated to a number of extra volunteers. Maybe this has all been discussed in the past? Maybe it is a job that can only be done by a couple of hard working folks with time rather than portioned out? I'm too new to know, but I'd like to help if I can.
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I'm pretty ignorant of what all is required. Honestly, I'd kind of like to know.... just to know.
 
I like the idea of a lamb foot. That’s a pattern I’ve been wanting to try out but isn’t readily available in the US. It would be pretty cool on a 3.5 inch swayback frame. Although I could understand if people think that’s too similar to last year’s knife.

Another one I would like to see is something like the Schrade 93OT, a California clip and a fullish-sized sheep foot. As far as I know, no production company is making that knife right now, so it would be something a little different and I would think GEC or Buck could do it pretty easily.

Since people have mentioned bottle openers, I have a knife that was my Grandpa’s from the 60s or 70s and it is a small stockman with a clip, sheep foot and bottle opener. I don’t ever carry it because of sentimental reasons, but it’s a pretty cool pattern. I’m a fan of bottle openers on knives, I’m a fan of stockmen, and I rarely use the Spey, so it seems like a logical combo. I also don’t think anyone is currently making that exact knife, but would probably be easy for GEC or Buck.

I’ve also thought a GEC 25 with a bottle opener would be cool. A bit more substantial than the 14.

Just throwing out a few ideas/wishes.
 
Let me start by clarifying that I am not volunteering for it but at least one time in the past, the 2011 forum knife I believe it was, the knives were shipped to a member (not a dealer) who volunteered to handle all of the shipping.

As far as I know, it worked out well but I'm not sure how much of the process has changed since then.
 
Railsplitter said:
Let me start by clarifying that I am not volunteering for it but at least one time in the past, the 2011 forum knife I believe it was, the knives were shipped to a member (not a dealer) who volunteered to handle all of the shipping.

As far as I know, it worked out well but I'm not sure how much of the process has changed since then.
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Just for the shock factor, I wouldn't tell the Misses until a pallet of knives shows up at the door. She would finally be convinced that I had indeed lost it.

On the plus side, once they are all gone, and I have a single knife here and there trickle in, it wouldn't look that bad.
;):D
 
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