Like the Extrema Ratio RAO II?? Wow..it seems like Cold Steel is really on the game to challenge that knife in terms of lock strength, as i dont remember the previous version having this hole..
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4-Max?! USA Made, CPM-20CV, Cold Steel?! This can't be happening!
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I'm sure Jerry Busse will love this
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Does not look like a pin would bear on any surface. Maybe a forward lanyard hole. Not seeing a good use for it.
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While yes the talon hole in a certain part of the blade is his patten he doesn't own the right to holes in a knife handle or in a knife in general
Demko custom 4max always has this hole. the earlier production version also has this..
Oops i stand corrected
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Sideways or otherwise, they already tested the Tri-Ad against the Axis Lock, they, we, he, she, me, know which is stronger. That stop screw on the RAO is the most hilarious thing. I call it "Frankenstein's missing neck bolt." The RAO mentions a secure feeling knowing that the screw is in place. I take that to mean without that screw, faith in the actual lock is diminished. Its held on there seperate from the knife by a shock cord, I think. If anything should sever the cord, so severed is your faith in the knife, I guess. And it wouldnt be a challenge but a defending of the title. FYI about the Tri-Ad, the mere fact the blade will snap before the lock fails means the Tri-Ad is infinitely strong. Because its limits will never truly be tested when the blade snaps prior. And its not like CS makes chintzy blades, they're hanging 400-500+ on it. Weight hang porn.
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Do the push in bolts on my rifle mean it's a stupid design if it needs them to work better or even at all?
On Grenades I guess we could agree that they would be quite silly if they'd work with the pin inserted. :-o
The rao blade is super thick, thicker than any coldsteel blade I've seen . I doubt they'd break before the pivot or lock.
Why not use the lock for normal stuff and then if needed add a pin for crazy tasks? Why not have that option, nobody needs to use it if they don't want to.
As long as we don't see a Rao destruction with and without pin we can hypothesise a lot about the usefulness. If it's indeed useless it'd be pretty funny marketing. Also why don't they use it on their thinner blades? Maybe because they'd actually break before the lock?
Having to screw it in is bad in my opinion as well. There are surely more elegant and user friendly solutions.
On Grenades I guess we could agree that they would be quite silly if they'd work with the pin inserted. :-o
The rao blade is super thick, thicker than any coldsteel blade I've seen . I doubt they'd break before the pivot or lock.
Why not use the lock for normal stuff and then if needed add a pin for crazy tasks? Why not have that option, nobody needs to use it if they don't want to.
As long as we don't see a Rao destruction with and without pin we can hypothesise a lot about the usefulness. If it's indeed useless it'd be pretty funny marketing. Also why don't they use it on their thinner blades? Maybe because they'd actually break before the lock?
Having to screw it in is bad in my opinion as well. There are surely more elegant and user friendly solutions.
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I agree with this. And a hollow grind would be a total dealbreaker for me.
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Consider it broken. Yet another hollow ground blade. The original 4 Max image CS gave us looked just like the 4 Max customs by Demko. The blade looked hand ground with visible grind marks. It looked raw and ready to be thrashed on. Now it looks every other production knife. A little fancier given the materials. I can't believe they gave it a stonewash finish. I'm out too. I hate to be this guy, but no one more exited for this thing than me. And I'm out. I was gonna name it Maxine. No politics deterred me here. Just mere over editing and the "fixing" of that which was not broken.
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They are going hollow grind because they want it to sharpest with minimal work.
Cold steel should sacrifice a little bit of money for a superior product and start turning heads in the knife community than being brushed off as a gimmick company
Cold steel should sacrifice a little bit of money for a superior product and start turning heads in the knife community than being brushed off as a gimmick company
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"Custom Classics" is the name of this line. Meaning the CS 4Max is supposed to be a production version with a custom feel of the Demko 4Max. This is an entirely different knife. womp womp womp :thumbdn:
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The MAX has dropped from must-buy to wait-and-see status for me. 
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Old 4Max:
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Yes this literally can't be happening. They changed the entire knife.
To think if they actually released it in 2015 as advertised it would have looked like
Maxine. As she appeared at multiple knife shows.
If all this wait was to accommodate for these changes than I can stand to wait a lifetime, if you get me.
To think if they actually released it in 2015 as advertised it would have looked like
Maxine. As she appeared at multiple knife shows.
If all this wait was to accommodate for these changes than I can stand to wait a lifetime, if you get me.