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a bit of a strider upset... :(
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dekdek said:
Yup I'm clueless about dangerous toys, and I find it quite funny that you use crypto as an insult. The last time I checked intelligence was something you valued, apparently you changed your mind. I'm sorry I can't be dumb enough to be "cool" in your eyes. Damn my ability to place in the 99th percentile!
This is where you need to shut up. You have been out of line from the start, you were a loudmouth that pissed off a good man, and he told you where you stand (or rather kneel, I don't think you are short enough to stand and lick his sack.) You aren't going to win this argument, since it was never your battle to begin with.dekdek said:
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I've been trying to stay out of this as I really have no vested interest, but despite my better judgement, here goes;
dekdek, get over it. I don't fit any of the stereotypes you're likely to sling as I don't own a Strider and I'm not new to either forum. Something that seems to have been missed is that this knife wasn't a reject. It's perfectly functional, but with cosmetic flaws. If you knew anything about knifemaking, you'd know that the double stamp was done before heat treat, before bead blasting it and before an edge was ever put on it. What this means is that someone at Strider must have seen at least one of the cosmetic issues but made a concious decision to spend company resources (time and money) fo finish making a perfectly useable blade with the intent of giving it to a friend of the company for their personal use. It probably never ocurred to anyone to mark it as not for sale, because they never expected to see it come up for sale. Generally from what I know, if you're well thought enough of to get a Bro knife, you think enough of Strider to keep the knife.
I don't know what circumstances caused the recipient of this knife to sell, but they did. To my way of thinking, that was a betrayal of friendship, especially to sell it to a dealer. That person has not only profited from Strider's generosity, but caused additional grief by letting what was supposed to be a private posession out into the world and leading to this $hit storm.
If you want to make knives, have a ball. If you want to cut up all the ones that aren't perfect with a cutting torch, that's your right, but to continue to take Strider to task for being generous and standing behind their products unconditionally only proves you're a tool, and a dull one at that.
This whole bizzare thread could have been avoided by the knife's current owner making a single phone call to either the dealer he bought it from, or the factory but he chose to do neither as in his own words, he's too lazy. This thread has been illuminating in that it's exposed what dekheads some of the forum members are.
I hope you finish those wheaties soon and pour another bowl as I'm feeling the urge to answer nature's call and would be happy to give you a refill.
I don't own a Strider now, but can tell you that when the SNG recurve ships, that will change.
dekdek, get over it. I don't fit any of the stereotypes you're likely to sling as I don't own a Strider and I'm not new to either forum. Something that seems to have been missed is that this knife wasn't a reject. It's perfectly functional, but with cosmetic flaws. If you knew anything about knifemaking, you'd know that the double stamp was done before heat treat, before bead blasting it and before an edge was ever put on it. What this means is that someone at Strider must have seen at least one of the cosmetic issues but made a concious decision to spend company resources (time and money) fo finish making a perfectly useable blade with the intent of giving it to a friend of the company for their personal use. It probably never ocurred to anyone to mark it as not for sale, because they never expected to see it come up for sale. Generally from what I know, if you're well thought enough of to get a Bro knife, you think enough of Strider to keep the knife.
I don't know what circumstances caused the recipient of this knife to sell, but they did. To my way of thinking, that was a betrayal of friendship, especially to sell it to a dealer. That person has not only profited from Strider's generosity, but caused additional grief by letting what was supposed to be a private posession out into the world and leading to this $hit storm.
If you want to make knives, have a ball. If you want to cut up all the ones that aren't perfect with a cutting torch, that's your right, but to continue to take Strider to task for being generous and standing behind their products unconditionally only proves you're a tool, and a dull one at that.
This whole bizzare thread could have been avoided by the knife's current owner making a single phone call to either the dealer he bought it from, or the factory but he chose to do neither as in his own words, he's too lazy. This thread has been illuminating in that it's exposed what dekheads some of the forum members are.
I hope you finish those wheaties soon and pour another bowl as I'm feeling the urge to answer nature's call and would be happy to give you a refill.
I don't own a Strider now, but can tell you that when the SNG recurve ships, that will change.
krept said:
Thats the stupid thing about all of this! I said from the begining I only saw 2 knives of his and basicly those two didnt look right so I told the guy to send them back. Then Mick made some comments and I said his attitude sucks so he went off. I never said his knives suck or any other stupid comment. Steel is steel and tools are tools, If they are built to the standards of the design no problem. If you knew me and my circle of friends you would know Im very protective of young soldiers and all I ever wanted is for 2 knives that werent 100% on a visual to not end up in the pocket of some kid in combat. The thing is I dont have to listen to his crap or any crap from flunkies either here or in person.
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Until Midget decides to get off his lazy a$$ and make a phone call to Strider or Steel Addiction Knives to remedy the situation everyone without something constructive to say should step back and...
You know what is so sad about all of this, its that I wouldn't be surprised if this is the end of bro knives and givaways to military/LEO's of cosmetic blems. So by all of this, those who probably never read a forum, and are truely in harms way can now spend the big bucks to get a "collector grade" piece of gear, and Strider can be like the "big knife companies" and just cut the stuff up. I hope everyone is proud of their accomplishments here at the BF troll zone, nice work. 
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I've owned them in the past, but I traded them off.
I know myself and a lot of other people are in love with the Strider CONCEPT.
But we're just disappointed by the price and sub-par fit and finish.
What we REALLY WANT is a Strider for $150 less with perfect fit and finish.
But we can't have that and it's frustrating.
Actually, there ARE other options. The Chris Reeve one-piece line is my knife of choice. There ARE other custom makers and factory knives that do offer thick, beefy knives that can take a lot of abuse for the same or less money. They just don't get as much press because, for some reason, people would rather pay more and beeatch about imperfections instead.
Strider's business model is working for them. I've decided on other options, but still wish there were MORE options out there. If there WERE, maybe Strider would lower their prices a bit and be a bit more careful. Maybe they wouldn't.
But don't feel like Strider is your ONLY option. It isn't. Far from it.
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I know myself and a lot of other people are in love with the Strider CONCEPT.
But we're just disappointed by the price and sub-par fit and finish.
What we REALLY WANT is a Strider for $150 less with perfect fit and finish.
But we can't have that and it's frustrating.
Actually, there ARE other options. The Chris Reeve one-piece line is my knife of choice. There ARE other custom makers and factory knives that do offer thick, beefy knives that can take a lot of abuse for the same or less money. They just don't get as much press because, for some reason, people would rather pay more and beeatch about imperfections instead.
Strider's business model is working for them. I've decided on other options, but still wish there were MORE options out there. If there WERE, maybe Strider would lower their prices a bit and be a bit more careful. Maybe they wouldn't.
But don't feel like Strider is your ONLY option. It isn't. Far from it.
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nyeti said:
Or they could just stamp them or otherwise mark the blade as Cold Steel does with their seconds. There is no need to stop giving them away, however this does prevent the ability to just say "give away knife" when ever someone points out a QC issue.
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dekdek said:
Actually dekdek, this is what you stated in your first post, and it sounds more like a slam to me than a recommendation. It was explainded to you in an earlier post that the curve was intentional and that it actually made it stronger, but for some reason you refuse to believe that. I see why mister Strider jumped on you. You pretty much said they were pieces of crap. Especially the "I find it intolerable but not surprising." Did you think that Mick was just going to sit back and take that?? And by the way, what really makes you a knife expert?? :thumbdn:
jmxcpter said:
This whole thing could of been avoided if Mick didnt tell me to "Lick His Sack" so dont try and make me out as a bad guy here. I dont realy care what people think about me good or bad but Im not in the habit of telling people the kind of stupid crap he posted here directed at me personaly. Most of my recent comments have been responses. If people want to buy his knives and they think he is the king of the knife world by all means go for it. My oppinion of him and my lack of respect I have are based on his stupid comments, and his "Ill take my toys and go home playground attitude".
Holy $hit!!!, this thread never ends....for the last umpteen pages, everyone keeps saying the same things over and over and over...."but my origional point was" or "what you really said was"....I think it's safe to say at this point most folks have made up their minds one way or another....Damn, now I think I just repeated what someone else has already said eleventeen times 
dekdek said:
dekdek, I think that Mick's comments were directed at you personally because you are the one who was actually trashing his knives. You notice he did not direct that sort of comments to anyone else on this forum. You ran off of your mouth and trashed his folders, which I don't believe you have the knowledge to do, and he got pissed. Who else should he have ranted to??
Firecap said:
Yea thats what I said. I probably could have been nicer but if you notice In the first line I said for the guy to send them back. Under stress I would be shocked if either of these two knives locks did not fail and the reason I said for the guy to send them back was so the shop could check them out and see if they were even real strider knives or rejects sent off to Thailand by some employee on accident or what was going on. Now I dont care and since many people value my oppinion internationaly I will never reccomend his knives because of his attitude. You are correct that certain angles and curves can make a lock stronger but in the case of these 2 knives they were just visualy incorrect and did not function according to their original design. That being said I will add this is my oppinion and only my oppinion. It was asked and it was given and then I commented on it here. As for my qaulifications for giving oppinions on knives lets just say ive been around the world a couple times. Im not much on proving myself and what ive said here either makes sense or it dosent so you be the judge.
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