One of the funny things here is all the talking tall, and all the Im a secret ninja with a ID card so my oppinion is valid here is my credentials so im qaulified to tell you about knives rhetoric. Most of the posts here I agree have been a waste of time but the reason was most of the folks here chose to be cheerleaders and try to defend the undefendable. Maybe a couple of you guys have even earned a free t-shirt but you failed miserably at understanding the issues here. If you dont get it fine, you didnt learn anything fine. Talk is great if you can back it up but if you cant its talk. A reject knife is a reject and I said before " stamp the tang NOT FOR SALE " end of story. For some of you guys claiming to be ex-military and active duty, have you ever heard the term " Prevenative Maintenence", Its not magic like knowing the future its simple commen sense like guesing potential problems before they happen and taking action to prevent them from biteing you in the @$$.