a bit of a strider upset... :(

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dekdek said:

I just inspected a couple folders for a friend and I reccomended he send both back to strider. The problem is the fit between the lock and the blade on both. One has around 25% contact and the other as between 10 and 15 percent contact. It very plain to see that it was ground on a belt grinder wheel and hastily fitted. The grind is curved on the blade butt and flatt on the liner lock making it prone to failure in extreme usage and it could fail under normal use. There is no way any knife maker should allow these two knives out into the public when they are advertised to soldiers who could carry them into combat. I find it intolerable but not suprising. I had no axe to grind here and have never purchased one of these knives but a folder is only as strong as its lock and both of these failed a simple visual inspection Im sorry to report.
The grinding of a curve on the butt makes it LESS likely to fail. Don't believe me check no less a source than Bob Terzuola-this is how he makes his fail-safe liner lock. He have mentioned this more than once. Please check your facts before bashing something as incorrect.
The fact is both the dealer and the maker have agreed to make things right so after that people should shut-up.
Yes I own striders and have a BRO knife. The knife is perfect,not because of it is put together, but because of the makers and who they are.
 
SpEcTeR said:
In reality Strider Knives don't make knives for 'keyboard commandoes' but I can tell you that they will make it right. It does require you to get off your ASS AND DO SOMETHING! (other than whine and B***H about it!)

My advice, is get a refund from Steel Addiction Knives and then if you really really want a 'pretty' knife, go through a REAL Strider Dealer. Then you can stare at it all day long while you watch TV and be lazy...

Wow, there's another badass on this board. Dude, tell me stories about being in the ****....How many dinks, skinnies, and ragheads have you dispatched? How much do you bench? What kind of optics on your well used and bloody AR? Boxers or briefs? Do you shave your body? How about the pubes? How many chicks have you banged? Tell me everything.....I want to be just like you!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :barf:
 
Another three pages overnight! I could keep reading this stuff endlessly; I never get tired of it....
 
I wasn't going to say anything because the last time I criticized a knife maker I was banned on one forum and berated on this one.

Anyway who cares. I never could see the attraction to Strider knives personally. To me they look like they were designed by a 10 year old. Hey to each his own, some people obviously like them. Everybody says they are knives you would want to take into combat. When I was in combat I had a knife the Army issued me, granted it didn't have stripes painted on it or cord wrapped on the handle, but it did the job very nicely.

The thing I find most interesting about this thread is the egotistic, condescending attitude of the maker and his cronies.
 
brianNH said:
I think Strider should make a limited edition "Lick my sack Loser" knife with Micks signature.

It would sell out quickly. I'd buy one.

This whole thread cracks me up. It accomplished nothing, except to prove how not to handle a simple problem. At the end of all this, people who like Strider knives will continue to buy Strider knives. People who don't, won't.

As for me; I'm already looking for another one.
 
To the owner, moderator of bladeforums.
To let a thread go on like this is ridiculous. Id have to say most of the people here are decent people, and since a solution has already been met, why let it continue on? Is anyone really benefitting from all this strider bashing?
Obviously stirder makes a great product, I carry at least one all day everyday.

Some one wrongfully sold a knife to dave, and both dave, and mick have personally said in this thread that they would take care of it. SO WHAT THE **** IS THIS THREAD STILL AT THE TOP FOR?! if you had any sense at all you would lock it and let it float to the bottom with all the rest of the ****** threads the god forsaken place has.
 
The thread will drift off the front page when people no longer feel moved to express their thoughts on it. In the meantime, if you think nothing of any further interest is being posted any more there's no reason you should continue reading it. I'm sure you will not be the only one to make that decision....
 
and to those who understand what's going on...

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From Krept:
"Then I came to understand the situation better. It would seem that this is NOT a factory second knife because it was never sold by Strider. It was given to someone."

Mick himself never said that was definitely the case concerning this particular knife, he merely stated that some knives are given to certain people.

Allen.

Allen, you are correct. But on another forum, a Strider employee (and a great guy to boot) stated that this was the case with this knife in particular. I feel really fkd up even bringing this out of the forum in which it was posted, but I think it's important to make things clear within this given context. Sorry guys. :( .
 
krept said:
and to those who understand what's going on...

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Now that's what I'm talking about!

Don't want to get pulled into the **** fight here. I own over 25 striders. I just love'em and use the heck out of them. Were I to get one that was messed up (and I haven't yet), I would contact the dealer/seller and the Strider shop to either get it fixed or my $ back That's just me. Everyone has their own opinion and some express them more fervently than others. Bottom line: we are all passionate about our favorite blades...that's what makes us all so strange!

I live in the Badlands, am a Suspect on USN and dabble over here in Bladeforums, usually for the tomahawk talk. I love knives. I may not like your favorite maker and obviously some of you do not like mine. Lets just all agree that we like different knives for different reasons.

I think we can all agree, however, that this chick is HOT and that I'd be the best 30 seconds of her life (well maybe not that long).

EAD
 
adder said:
The grinding of a curve on the butt makes it LESS likely to fail. Don't believe me check no less a source than Bob Terzuola-this is how he makes his fail-safe liner lock. He have mentioned this more than once. Please check your facts before bashing something as incorrect.
The fact is both the dealer and the maker have agreed to make things right so after that people should shut-up.
Yes I own striders and have a BRO knife. The knife is perfect,not because of it is put together, but because of the makers and who they are.


Without dragging other knife makers into it I will stand by what I said. Without going into more detail I will again say " They failed my visual inspection " I never said I torture tested them or even stress tested them. I advised the guy to send them back. You would think since Mick personaly came on here and commented he would be concerned about any kind of customer related visual inspection issues and would promptly try to address any negative comments with reasons, theorys, intelligent arguments, diagrams, pictures, or just ignore them. Instead he chose to get on here and shoot his mouth off and then break out his POSSE to circle the wagons. To me its all just a joke now and so his he. I will never have any respect for the man or any product he is affiliated with or any company that endorses him with deals.
 
Lone Piper said:
I think we can all agree, however, that this chick is HOT and that I'd be the best 30 seconds of her life (well maybe not that long).

EAD

No way could a 9-post wonder like yourself give her the best 30 seconds of her life. I'd give her 10 seconds that'd turn her brunette again.


:) :)
Not that I think we're in W&C territory or anything
 
You would think since Mick personaly came on here and commented he would be concerned about any kind of customer related visual inspection issues and would promptly try to address any negative comments with reasons, theorys, intelligent arguments, diagrams, pictures, or just ignore them.

From Webster:

cus·tom·er
1 : one that purchases a commodity or service

How is Midget Mick's customer? Because he has a knife that was gifted to someone else... one that wasn't meant for public consumption? Or is it the fact that Mick offered him Customer Service on this blade that makes him a customer?

Instead he chose to get on here and shoot his mouth off and then break out his POSSE to circle the wagons.

It appears that you have created a fantasy that Mick is going around saying "guys, my feeling got hurt please help defend me." If anything, I think Mick wants people that are apparently defending him to STFU. Where else but your imagination could this have come from? I'll paypal you $10 if you show me Mick is asking for help. ;) (offer open for 24 hours)


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I dont trust the word of a man who tells potential customers or current customers to lick anything on their body. I am not convinced this was a factory second, especially given previous posts i've seen about striders AND the fact that most strider fans themselves claim the knives arent made for looks and fit and finish. If i had a customer base who mainly didnt care about fit and finish, maybe i'd let a knife like this slide through, too.

Fact is we will never know and all we are left with are the facts and the only facts are that its being taken care of one way or another and that the maker is a hotheaded tool, even if he is going to fix the problem.

This thread should NOT be removed and will stay here until people are done talking about it, and thats the way posts like this should be. Even moreso when it exposes some true colors of an already contorversial brand and maker...maybe its step number 1 out of 1000 towards the maker developing maturity like a normal adult if it costs him some sales....

If you have to go through hell just for posting a few pictures of a poorly made knife, what are we all doing here? I didnt know positive reviews were the only ones allowed.

Fact of the matter is the knife was let into the public, be it given away or sold. If the maker doesnt care enough about the quality of the "officially" released knives enough to differentiate between the two, then they share a big portion of the responsibility when pictures of one shows up like this.
 
krept said:
From Webster:



How is Midget Mick's customer? Because he has a knife that was gifted to someone else... one that wasn't meant for public consumption? Or is it the fact that Mick offered him Customer Service on this blade that makes him a customer?



It appears that you have created a fantasy that Mick is going around saying "guys, my feeling got hurt please help defend me." If anything, I think Mick wants people that are apparently defending him to STFU. Where else but your imagination could this have come from? I'll paypal you $10 if you show me Mick is asking for help. ;) (offer open for 24 hours)


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Another intelligent argument, Yea right. How about you add some intelligence to the thread instead of light weight rhetoric and maybe Ill mail you 10 dollars worth of monkey mud nuggets.
 
"I could give her 12 inches and make her hurt"

Requires me to screw her 12 times and then punch her in the mouth!!!
 
Dedek,

1) How do you construe Midget is a customer, given that he bought a knife from a third party that was gifted and not meant for general consumption? Keep in mind, Mick still offers to honor the warranty.

2) Where did you get the idea that Mick was "breaking out his posse?"

(LMFAO @ Wolfmann)
 
Fact of the matter is the knife was let into the public, be it given away or sold. If the maker doesnt care enough about the quality of the "officially" released knives enough to differentiate between the two, then they share a big portion of the responsibility when pictures of one shows up like this.

I agree for the most part. I think that Mick took responsibility when he offered to make it right for Midget.

If you have to go through hell just for posting a few pictures of a poorly made knife, what are we all doing here? I didnt know positive reviews were the only ones allowed.

While we might disagree whether it's poorly made, poorly finished or has a few flaws, I do ABSOLUTELY agree that people should be free to post whatever they want about a knife. I think it's important to consider, however, that the original context was that this was a "factory first" knife when it wasn't even "factory" (stamped M. STRIDER vs. STRIDER) or a "second" in the sense that it was sold...

I think therein lies the issue... Midget thought he was getting a factory first and it was not a factory first. Someone dropped that ball and I guess one could fault Mick for either a) letting the knife get out of his shop in the first place or b) not stamping "NOT FOR SALE!" on it...
 
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