a bit of a strider upset... :(

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Shoddy work?

We are talking princess and the pea stuff here, except maybe for the darkened tip. I'd have asked that be touched up. I've done that before, with a well-known local upstanding maker. Twice.

If the depth of the stamp and all is what matters, buy another fine knife, like a Sebenza. Striders may not be for you.

Doubt that its a BRO knife?

Nobody has to prove to you or anyone anything. It is said to be a BRO knife by people I believe. Whether you believe or not is up to you, but there is no reason to throw dispersions and innuendo.

Telling someone critiquing his work to lick his sack?

No, got that wrong too. The person was criticising his work. Not a "critique."

It was from someone who throught that a designed characteristic on two folders was a serious flaw. Ignorance. The design is actually pretty ingenious.

Again, the theme of "your quality is going downhill", in a dogpile fashion, by uninformed people who don't even know what they are talking about, caused Mr Strider to say something in anger.

He then apologized. Even though the poster (D-D) had no idea what he was talking about. Go read post 116

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But the crap continues. Enough already.
 
How does one knife constitute quality going down hill. If that was the case all knifemakers quality would be going down hill.

I thought this thread was done with and it is still floating. Unbelievable, with people getting slammed. I do not know Strider personally, but I respct his product and feel that he makes the most solid folders on the market. To slam his folders without even putting a picture to show what your talking about and then state that you feel they will not work based on looks and not by performance is rediculous.

I think this thread needs to end as it has no usefull purpose. Arguments can continue privately or onanoter forum, but this thread has become a waste of time.
 
Cougar Allen said:
The really odd thing is I've often seen someone post that he thinks a maker's quality control is going downhill without it being followed by 35 pages (and counting) of Special Ed kids calling each other names. What is it about other brands that makes the Special Ed crowd not care one way or the other whether their quality control is slipping or not?
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This thread's for Special Ed's.

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Cougar Allen is right!

I have heard it said that Gerber quality has went down hill since they merged with Fiskars, but nobody said the poster was out to slander Gerber.
Nobody said anyone had a anti-Gerber agenda.
Nobody said that if the poster had a problem he should have contacted Gerber instead of posting on the Bladeforums.

It's the same with Case and Benchmade too.
But if anyone has anything negative to say about Strider knives, then the usual clowns rush to shout down the poster.


Walking Man is also right!

I said that Striders rude and crass comments were not justified and, right away, the Strider defenders determined that I hated Strider knives and that I had some kind of anti-Strider agenda.

Well they were wrong....at the time.
But I sure as heck have an anti-Strider agenda now!

Allen.
 
JHILLAS,
Think about what you're saying...

"Nobody has to prove to you or anyone anything. It is said to be a BRO knife by people I believe. Whether you believe or not is up to you, but there is no reason to throw dispersions and innuendo."

So if someone tells a friend of yours a lie, and your friend believes the lie and then tells you, you never question it?

"Telling someone critiquing his work to lick his sack?
No, got that wrong too. The person was criticising his work. Not a "critique."

Oh, I see.
You think that it's OKAY for Mick to tell someone to "lick my sack" simply because they were criticising his work?

"He then apologized. Even though the poster (D-D) had no idea what he was talking about. Go read post 116"

Actually he only said "sorry" to the guy who got the crappy knife.
He never actually apologized for his vulgar rude remarks.
Of couse, it's obvious that he does'nt have the class or common sense to realize that he was wrong.

Allen
 
Cougar Allen said:
The really odd thing is I've often seen someone post that he thinks a maker's quality control is going downhill without it being followed by 35 pages (and counting) of Special Ed kids calling each other names. What is it about other brands that makes the Special Ed crowd not care one way or the other whether their quality control is slipping or not?
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:rolleyes: way to moderate , fan the flames. Guess you as a mod dont need to take Sparks advice. Grow up bro , in the words of Mick " GO see the phuckin wizard and get some courage " :rolleyes:
 
Banned for Mod Sass. If it doesn't apply to you, maybe you shouldn't take offense at it. If it does apply to you then sorry that the truth hurts.
 
Cougar Allen said:
The really odd thing is I've often seen someone post that he thinks a maker's quality control is going downhill without it being followed by 35 pages (and counting) of Special Ed kids calling each other names. What is it about other brands that makes the Special Ed crowd not care one way or the other whether their quality control is slipping or not?
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the45guy said:
:rolleyes: way to moderate , fan the flames. Guess you as a mod dont need to take Sparks advice. Grow up bro , in the words of Mick " GO see the phuckin wizard and get some courage " :rolleyes:
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Who knows, maybe you're right. Maybe just mentioning that 10 Special Ed kids have had to be kicked out for name-calling so far will fan the flames and even more Special Ed kids will have to be kicked out....
 
Coug,

Guess I'm dense...could you define who your talking about when you say "Special Ed". Sounds derogatory to me, so I'd like to know whom your referring to.

Thanks,
 
Nordic Viking

I did not know you were a poet!

Just for the fun of it you could have told them how the Sami "lick the sack". Maybe somebody would not have used that expression if he knew! :D :D

TLM
 
icarian said:
Guess I'm dense...could you define who your talking about when you say "Special Ed". Sounds derogatory to me, so I'd like to know whom your referring to.
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It's pretty simple. Cougar and myself have repeatedly warned against personal attacks. People who continue to ignore these warnings could safely be described as foolish, ignorant, or "touched in the head". Several of them have now been banned. If it doesn't apply to you, don't worry about it.
 
Cougar Allen said:
The really odd thing is I've often seen someone post that he thinks a maker's quality control is going downhill without it being followed by 35 pages (and counting) of Special Ed kids calling each other names. What is it about other brands that makes the Special Ed crowd not care one way or the other whether their quality control is slipping or not?
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Geez, people, take it easy, good ole Cougar just insulted everyone who responded in this thread. :D
Equal opportunity retardation RULES!
 
icarian said:
Coug,

Guess I'm dense...could you define who your talking about when you say "Special Ed". Sounds derogatory to me, so I'd like to know whom your referring to.

Thanks,
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"Special Ed kids calling each other names" seems pretty specific to me. 11 of them have had to be kicked out for personal attacks already, and I doubt it's over yet. By the way, this is not the longest thread on Bladeforums but that is a record.

If you want a list of names, it's in this month's Plank Log in the Bladeforums Service & Support forum: Sticky: Walking the Plank in October
 
I cannot speak for the others here but I learned at a relatively young age that what I said not only affected myself, but it also affected my friends to some degree.

I also realize that Strider Knives has done some collaborating with Buck Knives (a company that I like very much).
I wonder if Buck is aware of Strider's remarks and attitude?
And I wonder if Mick Strider even cares how his internet tantrums might affect Buck Knives?

So, do you guys think that Buck should know about this thread?
After all, this forum is THE internet source for knife knowledge and Buck does maintain a forum here too.

Allen.
 
wow, this thread is great.


so check this out.

i started this thread b/c i got a knife that was of questionable workmanship. the flaws weren't even that big a deal, and i would have ignored them if the knife didn't cost 325.00. in fact, i was thinking about ignoring them as is, but i came here to get input from the forumites.

see, i thought what i was getting a brand new knife. in the past, all of my new striders have come to me with great workmanship and reasonable fit/finish. and to be honest with you, i haven't bought a brand new strider in quite some time. so when i got my "new" slcc, there was quite a dichotomy between this new knife and say, my EBT and SA, purchased 2 years ago and 5 years ago respectively.
the greater discrepancy was that this is a mick strider custom-- not a semi-production knife. and while one might let flaws on a producition knife slide by, a flawed, custom knife means that m.strider would have noticed tooling marks/burns/etc. and still let them get away. and that led me to believe the QC was slipping.

i'm aware of strider's warrantee, and i am very much appreciative of it. i've sent and received lots of knives back for refurbs--all of them arriving pristine and in a timely fashion. but this is different, because it was a brand new knife (or, at the time, i thought). there's really no reason why anyone should have to pay the extra 25.00 for s/h and wait a week to get a new, custom knife fixed.


but that was in the past, and as this thread unfolds, i'm learning a lot about the knifemaking industry, knifemakers themselves, and end line users.

so hopefully this clears things up. this knife apparently did not come factory direct, making the aforementioned arguements pretty much null and void. it's my bad for not knowing it was a new knife, and my bad for not knowing steeladdictionknives.com is not a strider dealer (to no fault of steeladdictionknives-- he's a great guy).

it plays out like this. for some reason or another, another forumite wants this particular slcc-- so we're trading my slcc, for his. my slcc is on its way to me now, and i would have shipped the bro.slcc today 'cept it's columbus day.
and that's it. pretty simple.



anyhow.


thanks so much to jbravo, who by all reasoning, should be working at strider knives inc.
for some reason, he's gone out of his way to make things right for everyone, and that says a lot for him.


also thanks to everyone who has sent me email, both productive and not-so-productive. in particular, tom mayo and ren the devil's trailboss -- they are cool guys. thanks to mick strider both for personally responding and for standing, once again, behind his product.
and i mean that with all respect. sorry for pissing you off.


apparently there is a lot of politics that revolve around sharpened pieces of steel. i think its fantastic to see the phenomenon that has occured here. the internet is a wonderful place.


thanks everyone. hope this clears things up for you all.

thirty-six pages is just ridiculous. the only thing i'm wondering now is...












is the sebenza the best folder?
 
AllenC

I am only responding directly to you because you quoted me and did not seem to get it.

Below is post 116:
Mick Strider said:
i haven't read any of your posts.....sorry if that bothers you...


BUT, i do know that i was a dickead and shouldn't have been.

At least not to the guy with the knife issue.

Its hard to be in my position, always trying to make a better and better product, always make every customer happy.....THEN

Someone posts a blanket statement that our quality is going down hill, because they purchased a used knife from someone who isn't a Strider Dealer.

We make a lot of knives. Not every knife is sold. Many, go to guys in the fight, or buddies or whatever......these guys, later sell items when they move on to others......

For someone to make a statement about the quality of our gear based on the purchase of a used knife, with an unknown origin is misleading, and it pissed me off.

There is a trend on this board to talk about our guarantee as if it is less than quality.....This post encourages that type of thing. Never did this customer get with us over the issue; rather, they post it on a board that has a history of individuals attacking our product and warrantee, while not bothering to actually try and use our warrantee.

That was the basis of my words....

That you can come to this board and tell however many members come here, that our quality is going down hill....OR....you can try and effect change without making blanket statements.

To the guy who got the ****** knife, sorry bro. Feel free to send it in and we will make it right. Like always....That’s what we do.

To the rest of you,

Continue to enjoy blade forums.
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When I read that, it sounds like he was apologizing to the OP and others too.

Stop with the sack-licking. Mr Strider apologized for that comment.

And with regard to the BRO knife comment, are you now saying someone LIED about that? WTF?
 
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