A formal apology from Jared West of Mantis Knives

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M4B , disregard any questions I have had , having looked at the Mantis website again , it is all a mute point to me. Nothing could be said that would change my mind , the knives are just not interesting. The most interesting thing about Mantis is the humor in some of these threads. Especially some of Wolfman's poems :)


I will leave it at wishing Mantis Knives the best of luck , not a knife in their line up that interests me.
 
Jared, by your statement I assume that all your knives are made in Taiwan. That was what I wanted to know, as I've seen them listed as Taiwan, China, and US made.

I purchased three of your knives when you were just starting out. I never used them, but the fit and finish was excellent. The lack of CoO confused me though.

On a side note. I have no interest in calling you, but I assume you're still reading here or one of your fans can notify you if you are not already aware. While your designs aren't my style, They do seem to be original and distinguishing, and I can respect that. It appears that you've gained enough notoriety to be imitated. Link
 
ragingwolf66 said:
Where are you at Brother, I am in Troy.
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Troy's a beautiful piece of God's country, my friend. I've only been through there on my way into the Idaho panhandle but I was very impressed. Moved out here to Montana when I was 18 and never looked back. Lived all over - Butte, Anaconda, Glendive, Big Fork, Billings and several other . Currently in Helena the "Queen City" of Montana. LOL! (I know, I know) That moniker only implies that there must be a "King City" and, yea, there is - Butte!

Take care and no offense intended.

Best to you, friend.

Ruzster
 
made4blade said:
Knowing how some of you guys are, you would probably burn down my house if you knew where I lived, sorry but I don't trust you.
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I personally don't care where you live. I don't believe you are Jared, but either way, I wouldn't care. As far as the quoted statement, chill the heck out. First and foremost, you don't "know" any of us other than ragingwolf66, so how could you "know how we are".

Some of us think you are a bit overzealous. Others think you are BSing them. That said, in the real world, nobody here is wringing their hands in anticipation of your location, so they can come after you with violence and intimidation. Noone who has responded negatively to you here gives a rat's behind who you are once they log out of BF.

Once I finish this post, I'll be sitting in my back yard with a Marlboro and my sharpening stones, not thinking about some dillweed on an internet forum. Where will you be?
 
made4blade said:
I know who I am, Jared knows who he is. Ragingwolf knows who I am.
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uh huh and most of the rest of us know what you are and how much you know when it comes to the knife community and knives. You guys have demonstrated that in spades and it is not something to be admired. Montana is blessed with some of the greatest and nicest knife makers in the country. You don't have very far to go to get a little actual knowledge at all and you will really enjoy the journey, actually meeting people who will be a great influence on you on many levels.

Or you can continue to drink the Koolaide. The choice is yours alone.
 
kiahs said:
Jared, by your statement I assume that all your knives are made in Taiwan. That was what I wanted to know, as I've seen them listed as Taiwan, China, and US made.
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As for me I assume when a dealer doesn't want to admit where his knives are made it must be China or he wouldn't be so evasive.
 
Ruzster said:
Troy's a beautiful piece of God's country, my friend. I've only been through there on my way into the Idaho panhandle but I was very impressed. Moved out here to Montana when I was 18 and never looked back. Lived all over - Butte, Anaconda, Glendive, Big Fork, Billings and several other . Currently in Helena the "Queen City" of Montana. LOL! (I know, I know) That moniker only implies that there must be a "King City" and, yea, there is - Butte!

Take care and no offense intended.

Best to you, friend.

Ruzster
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Thank you brother, and if you are ever in this neck of the woods let me know. We can have a cup of coffee, and chat knives!
 
Bastid said:
uh huh and most of the rest of us know what you are and how much you know when it comes to the knife community and knives. You guys have demonstrated that in spades and it is not something to be admired. Montana is blessed with some of the greatest and nicest knife makers in the country. You don't have very far to go to get a little actual knowledge at all and you will really enjoy the journey, actually meeting people who will be a great influence on you on many levels.

Or you can continue to drink the Koolaide. The choice is yours alone.
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Montana is in fact a great hub for makers. I have Spoken to Ed Caffrey, and Steven Kelley, as well as Mike Hangas of Ruana knives, and have also had some contact with Christine Simonich. I have a couple of local makers that are letting me into their shops so I can start my own designs. I have big hands an am working on a large Drop point Hunter design (Loveless inspired...of course.)
 
Jaxx said:
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: Unbelievable. Knowing how you are, concerning Mantis knives... Sorry, but I don't trust you. Why should I? :yawn::yawn:

I personally don't care who you are & where you're from... No need to give up your personal info here. But, don't be accusing us or alleging that we would "probably" be getting ready to burn your house down if we knew where you lived. I don't think that any of us would do such a thing.
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Maybe you personally wouldn't. But as for some of the others, I'm not too sure. I just don't think it would be wise to give out my personal info.
 
kiahs said:
I personally don't care where you live. I don't believe you are Jared, but either way, I wouldn't care. As far as the quoted statement, chill the heck out. First and foremost, you don't "know" any of us other than ragingwolf66, so how could you "know how we are".

Some of us think you are a bit overzealous. Others think you are BSing them. That said, in the real world, nobody here is wringing their hands in anticipation of your location, so they can come after you with violence and intimidation. Noone who has responded negatively to you here gives a rat's behind who you are once they log out of BF.

Once I finish this post, I'll be sitting in my back yard with a Marlboro and my sharpening stones, not thinking about some dillweed on an internet forum. Where will you be?
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That's fine. I know it wasn't you, but I was asked for my home phone number, so they could find out where I live. Most of the people here have not been exactly nice, so why would I give it out?

Where will I be? Sitting in my chair, watching TV and eating chocolate ice cream.
 
made4blade said:
His ebay store is called "the original chop shop".
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:cool:...No "store" I could find with that name is registered in Ebay...But "age" has a way of making it hard for me to find my bathroom in the morning too...:cool:...:p
 
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ragingwolf66 said:
Montana is in fact a great hub for makers. I have Spoken to Ed Caffrey, and Steven Kelley, as well as Mike Hangas of Ruana knives, and have also had some contact with Christine Simonich. I have a couple of local makers that are letting me into their shops so I can start my own designs. I have big hands an am working on a large Drop point Hunter design (Loveless inspired...of course.)
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Spend some more time with those folks and get to know them. Eventually it will be clear why the antics that were pulled really are despised. It is not my or our thoughts. Those antics really are despised. Trust me it will be clear as day if you get to know those folks.
 
WOW, talk about bad press. I just looked at the link and he is insulting other companies. One knife says (benchmade's competition) another says its (benchmade's bully) one (smokes buck) another (smokes crkt) and one of them even (kicks kershaw) and another (kills kershaw)!!! Here are the links. look at the titles.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Mantis-Knives-M...43335QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l1262

http://cgi.ebay.com/Mantis-Knives-M...7992865QQihZ021QQcategoryZ43335QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/MANTIS-KNIVES-M...7409449QQihZ016QQcategoryZ43335QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/Mantis-Knives-M...2034499QQihZ021QQcategoryZ43335QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/Mantis-Knives-B...7406454QQihZ016QQcategoryZ43335QQcmdZViewItem
 
Md 25v said:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Mantis-Knives-M...43335QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l1262
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The first and only link I clicked on in that post.

This is what I'm talking about. It's obvious intentional confusion about CoO. From the auction. These are quotes from Jared himself apparently.

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]This auction is for the NEW MF-4hc "Chaos I" fixed blade tactical knife from the Mantis Knife Company out of Anaheim, CALIFORNIA.[/FONT]
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]This knife is Designed in California and has a UNCONDITIONAL lifetime warranty.[/FONT]
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Unless someone is paying very close attention, and bothers to fact check before buying the knife, they may assume that the knife they are buying is American made. There are two mentions of California, and NO mentions of Taiwan. You can say that this is unintentional if you want, but saying "Designed in California" without the "and Made in Taiwan", and then shipping a knife without a country identifier is purposeful deception.

Also:
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]This is a limited run 2008 model knife,[/FONT]
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BS. I've owned this knife (the 154cm version), and know it was in production at least last year.
 
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