A New Folder from CRK

If it's a wharny, I will be the happiest person in the world. If it's some beefy military monster, I will weep inside for all the lovely Sebenzas that had to go out of production to support the project.
 
So, we'll still be able to have warranty work done, right? I mean, if a piece needs replacing or something. I had thoughts of getting another blade for my sm Reg. Maybe I'll look into that sooner than later.
All I know is that I hope it's not too big. Love to see something between the sizes of the small and large.

Edit-For all the bitching I've done about the Seb(not sharp enough, not that much better than many knives costing less, blah blah blah....), it's my favourite knife. Still the one that has come closest to doing it all, from work to play. I'm gonna miss it and wish it wasn't going the way of the dodo bird, eventhough I look forward to something new from CRK.
 
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It's not going away, just the regular. Oh and....

only 3 more weeks until the new folder!!!!:eek::D:thumbup:
 
Boy I hope that CRK has made a couple left hand models to be available at Blade!:thumbup:
 
I sure hope it's not another darn S30V blade. I also hope they incorporated lessons learned from the dismal knife test results on their GB into the folder design and steel selection.

Please, please stay away from powder-based metallurgy in the new folder...
 
Esav Benyamin said:
What on Earth does a "test" on a fixed blade have to do with a folder?
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Both are made from S30V. Same steel in both a fixed knife and a folder. S30V is a powdered-metallurgy steel.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and I know there are some that hold S30V in very high opinion. My opinion is that I would not buy any more knives that are composed of S30V - hence, my post/hope that the new folder from CRK does not have S30V as a choice of blade steel.

Two things I believe about powdered-metallurgy steels: that if hardened to Rockwell 60 or so, they will be very brittle (although also very sharp for a long period of time). That would explain the blade failure in the "test". Also, I just don't see how, molecularly, the bonds within the steel can be as strong as many other steels.

It's just my opinion anyway, but I like CRK knives, and so I hope that the new folder does not have a blade of S30V - so that I can buy it! :)
 
Guess I'm in partial agreement with fernando. I've owned several knives in S30v to include the Sebenza of course. Overall I would rather have a different steel. Though to be honest the CPM steels are pretty fantastic. I have four or five knives that have CPM 154. It is a great blade steel that doesn't show the problem involved with S30v. Don't know why, maybe it's just the makeup. I wouldn't knock the CPM's altogether. CPM D2 is suppose to be a very very good working steel too.
 
fernando said:
I sure hope it's not another darn S30V blade. I also hope they incorporated lessons learned from the dismal knife test results on their GB into the folder design and steel selection.

Please, please stay away from powder-based metallurgy in the new folder...
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The "lessons learned" from the GB knife test you're referring to are:
  • Features and characteristics of a knife that favor of ease-of-use and high performance will potentially reduce it's effectiveness in abusive situations, such as:
    • light weight/mass (blade thickness/depth, grind style) for improved carry-ability
    • serrations for cutting fiberous material (discontinuities like serrations will form areas of concentrated stress -- this is simple physics and material science)
    • hollow grind for consistent cutting edge thickness through multiple sharpenings
  • Uncontrolled/non-calibrated, small sample size testing will make for inconsistent results that can lead to faulty conclusions.
    • A sample size of 1 knife tested gives extremely low confidence in conclusions.
    • Angle of strikes make all the difference when it comes to stresses induced into the blade.
    • Force of a person weilding a hammer has huge variability due to countless factors -- how he/she feels that day, physical fatigue, "did he have his Wheaties?"
    • Potential for the knife guard bottoming out against the iron vice as it is being driven deeper into the wood by the iron maul -- completely different level of shock stress induced if this is the case.
Tests that are at the extremes of, but closer to, the actual application of a tool mean a lot more to me. For instance, pitting a Porsche 911 against a Toyota Landcruiser in an off-road test would yield quite predictable results in favor of the Landcruiser; however, I'd still take the Porsche 911 for my high performance sports driving uses.

Dave
 
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I don't know how much S30V has to do with the CRK fixed blade's poor performance in the destruction test. The Strider he tested is also made of S30V and did exceptionally well.
As far as I'm concerned, a folder is for cutting and slicing, so I don't care what it's made of, as long as it's sharp and stays that way for as long as possible.
 
To use another car analogy. It's like saying, "I would never by a Porsche, because this dude drove one off of a building, and it was like totally smashed up when it hit the ground! That steel they use sucks!"

Sebs rule. Unless of course, you're driving one into an I beam with a sledge hammer!

Jas
 
Another point to consider is that tests done on a fixed blade that presume to measure heavy field use have little to do with a folder that practically speaking cannot be stressed by hand to that same degree.

Powder metallurgy does not weaken steel. If anything, it strengthens it, by eliminating many impurities.
 
jdowell said:
Sebs rule. Unless of course, you're driving one into an I beam with a sledge hammer!Jas
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Esav Benyamin said:
Powder metallurgy does not weaken steel. If anything, it strengthens it, by eliminating many impurities.
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Good points.

Personal I feel that a folder should hold an edge for an extremely long time and slice/cut well. I really don't see myself prying or hitting my folder with a hammer....if I have time and/or can find a hammer I can surely find something to pry with.
 
Oh and I second the part about we needing pictures from BLADE and some news about the lefty variant.
 
I'd like something with aflat grind for better slicing.

I doubt it will be non locking but if Germany is following Denmark and the UK CRK may get into the non locking hi tech market.
 
I love this whole non-locking trend.... When I first saw a non-locking spyderco I was like, WTF?!~?!... who would buy this?

They ban firearms, that didnt solve the problem, so they ban locking knives including knives over 3"..... are they going to ban long fingernails next?

I really hope CRK does NOT release a non-locking knife. Imagine all the warranty service requests, "there is something wrong with my new knife, the locking mechanism is broken."
 
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