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Sorry to offend anyone
Bruce
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I think the key words in this thread were "..however all sold."
All Sold.
The price obviously is not too high since they are selliing.
The prices are set by what the market will bear. If they weren't selling at those prices, then they'd go out of business or lower the prices... they haven't had to do either.
Bitching about how much in materials a Strider costs to make is irrelevant, the materials are such a small part of the equation.
I think a lot of folks are just jealous because they can't fetch the prices Strider can, because they don't have the demand that Strider does.
All Sold.
The price obviously is not too high since they are selliing.
The prices are set by what the market will bear. If they weren't selling at those prices, then they'd go out of business or lower the prices... they haven't had to do either.
Bitching about how much in materials a Strider costs to make is irrelevant, the materials are such a small part of the equation.
I think a lot of folks are just jealous because they can't fetch the prices Strider can, because they don't have the demand that Strider does.
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seems that some striderettes have more money than sense. it is the same guys that buy all those knives. probably have 30 of them in their collection. good way to run up market value and keep it up I suppose.
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Bruce
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someone made a crack earlier comparing Strider owners to Scientologists. This post hits kinda close to home in that regard. All of you Non-Clears go buy 20 of L. Ron's latest printing to make sure it gets on the best seller list....lol
The Smatchet is considered as a cross between a machete and a bolo. The broad leaf-shaped blade gives it a symmetry / balance that I believe this knife here lacks completely. So, yes while the Smatchet is a legitimate fighting knife, I don't think this one is. The difference in blade design is enormous.
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I've tried my best to stay out of all this, but all this crap is really getting to me. I love knives -- all sorts. I love the custom world, the collectors, the shows, the knifemakers and everything that goes with them -- except this. Lately I've had a hard time even stepping into my shop because I'm just saddened and disgusted with the knife world lately. I for one love the fact that there are so many different styles of blades and ways of making them. It sure as hell makes a knife show a whole lot more interesting.
Who has the right to say what is best, or "worth more?" The market, and that's it. You don't like a knife -- that's fine, but don't belittle someone else's taste. I'm sure everyone here at one point has had "you spent how much for that knife???" asked them at some point. So why are we doing the same to other collectors and knife enthusiasts?
To each their own --
Who has the right to say what is best, or "worth more?" The market, and that's it. You don't like a knife -- that's fine, but don't belittle someone else's taste. I'm sure everyone here at one point has had "you spent how much for that knife???" asked them at some point. So why are we doing the same to other collectors and knife enthusiasts?
To each their own --
The market is providing feedback in this thread, not liking it doesn't invalidate it. Not everyone has to love everything, and I don't see much point in getting bothered by others' opinions on your purchases, unless the product is a status symbol and not a functional piece.
LMAO....the man definately collects knives.......that may be the understatement of the decade. Go look at his pics. He doesn't collect "brands"well, let me back up......I guess you could say that Fisk, Fogg, etc are "brands"
Peter collects forged knives. Exquisite forged knives.
I know, have gotten three of his "cast-offs". Don Fogg "Clouds" bowie, Kevin Cashen damascus "pocket bowie", and a stag handled Russ Andrews bowie.
Each of these knives are singularly spectacular, and there are no others like them, anywhere. That is the glory of collecting certain knives, for some.
I ALSO collect tactical knives. Kit Carson, Pat Crawford, Allan Elishewitz, Grant & Gavin Hawk, RJ Martin, John W. Smith, Bob Terzuola......as said before, it all comes down to taste.
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You are right, the price is not too high, it is too high for me. As long as there are enough people that are willing to pay what is being asked then the pricing is fine.
For those that care about resale value, whether the prices can be maintained for the long run is something that we will know in 10 or 20 years. Strider knives are obviously good short term investments, because Strider is hot. Will that be the case in 10 years when someone wants to sell that knife? Who knows. I guess the same can be said for a most of the knives being sold right now. If you are purchasing the knife because you like it, or because you expect a good short term return, then things will work out fine, and who knows, maybe in 10 or 20 years Strider will be the most collectable name in knives.
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Im with you, man. There is a widespread snobbery virus going around these days where people are mistaking their opinion and their purchased-backed bias for objective authoritative fact. Unfortunately, I am sure some very enthusiastic knife lovers have come, seen the "What i collect is the only true word of God" atmosphere, and moved on rather than having to defend everything they love to the bitter end. To each his own....maybe its simply exchanging statement like "This is wrong and has no place on this knife" with "I think that this is a poor choice given... and may have been a better choice with...."
Its a subtle difference, but the attitudes conveyed to the reader are vastly different. One I read as a worthless ego trip that offers no value to anyone but the writer, the other is a constructive topic that could open further discussion rather than disgust and argument.
We've all been guilty of it...im the first to admit that. But it doesnt take reading too many posts in galleries or the custom forum to learn who is willing to offer constructive review and commentary and who is just there to play the role of a self-bought expert...I personally dont think there are any experts when it comes to sole authorship custom work...maybe the large dealers, Mastersmiths, museum curators....some have been collecting knives for years and have their fingers on the pulse of the community and obviously have more to offer than ohers based on their experience...some have been collecting knives longer than ive been alive!
Im not saying everyone has to be objective as a museum curator or contest judge...but people at least need to turn on their internal filter and comment as such. This IS the place for opinions, reviews, statements of love and hate for trends or styles....but with that comes responsibility. Its just like any other freedom of speech topic. You have the right to say anything, but the repercussions may be that everyone thinks you are a tool and that some people might actually be pushed away from a shared interest rather than drawn towards it by intelligent discussion.
I am sure most will say "dude you need to not get all bent out of shape" or "the best makers can laugh at themselves"....or "everything i say is just my opinion, youre reading into it too much".....oh well. if someone came to my shop, picked up a knife I made and said half the disrespectful comments people here make off the cuff and with the same lack of common human respect shown on these forums, they would be out the door in the street so fast they wouldnt even feel my foot hit their ass on the way out. If the opinion is that of a customer who has purchased a knife, thats a whole different monster and obviously a different situation.
Respect is respect. Opinions are opinions. Disrespectful opinions should be greeted in kind, IMHO.
Some of this may hurt me as a maker...I think makers are expected to take any level of abuse, smile and keep chugging....my first knife show I had someone pick a knife up off the table, give it a 30 second once-over and rudely DROP it back on the table because they said I made the handle "all wrong" because they have big hands. My response was "well then go find a maker who makes knives for fat fingered a-holes(edit)"...im glad I said it and would respond in kind every time. I could have been a chump and shut my mouth, smiled, cleaned up the scratch he put in the knife, offered to make him a bigger one, kissed his butt and maybe got a sale, but why bother? Maybe Im a purist or a fool but I dont sell knives to a-holes...its a two way steet.
Maybe the problem is unavoidable, with people who have poured hours and years into pieces wandering the same halls as people who have seen two pictures of a knife and want to comment. Im sure change needs to happen on both sides, with makers coming to forums with the understanding that all is not peaches and cream when they post a knife and purchasers realizing that others might make them feel stupid if they choose to post what they have bought and collectors using self control to state their likes and dislikes in a manner that keeps constructive discussion flowing... Maybe everyone is accountable and maybe im just reading too deeply into things.
ive edited this about a million times and anticipate a lot of flak for it as others have taken...im going to cut my losses and end it here.
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Disclaimer: I apologize in advance for any harsh words I have said that people take badly. My post was not directed at any one particular individual and I know sometimes when you read a post, you assume its about yourself...ive done the same a million times...its the "oh crap, is he talking about me?" syndrome...we all love knives and have different styles, modes of communication, different levels of tact and bare knuckled honesty, and certainly different tastes...and for the record, the few knives i have posted here did receive some of the best constructive criticism I have received. lately, I have just felt more and more pains of empathy for collectors and makers alike...everyone seems to have noticed a flare up in hostility around here....i predict the onset of nicer weather in the spring will solve everything.