Allan Blade

What people have semed to miss out on is the idea that by giving allan business he may be able to pay others off
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Well, no, actually we didn't miss that idea. We tried it.
 
Keith Montgomery said:
You can be as tolerant and understanding as you want, but please forgive me if I share these sentiments.
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Keith, I hope you will accept that when we had direct and provable evidence of fraud from Israel, I acted promptly and alerted a member of the Israeli Police and this case is now in hand.

Danzo
 
Hmm.... when I first posted a link to this thread on BB it was with the intent to warn those considering placing an order with Allan Blade, nothing more nothing less. If the moderators on BB saw fit to react the way they did, then I guess it's their problem. The sycophantic reaction to my action amazed and saddened me as I had, up to that point, enjoyed my interactions on BB and as such I considered posting the link as a non-threatening act. If anyone cares to look at the original post they will see that I was deliberately noncomittal simply suggesting anyone interested have a look. I was not expecting this to be fought out on BF and stretch out to 24 pages. I have also followed the thread on BB and find today 2 more people asking about undelivered knives, prepaid of course.
Phil(sadder but not wiser)
 
pmel018 said:
Hmm.... when I first posted a link to this thread on BB it was with the intent to warn those considering placing an order with Allan Blade, nothing more nothing less. If the moderators on BB saw fit to react the way they did, then I guess it's their problem. The sycophantic reaction to my action amazed and saddened me as I had, up to that point, enjoyed my interactions on BB and as such I considered posting the link as a non-threatening act. If anyone cares to look at the original post they will see that I was deliberately noncomittal simply suggesting anyone interested have a look. I was not expecting this to be fought out on BF and stretch out to 24 pages. I have also followed the thread on BB and find today 2 more people asking about undelivered knives, prepaid of course.
Phil(sadder but not wiser)
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If you were so distressed about Allan cheating us why, as a member of BB, did you not choose to engage in any of the discussions we have had over the last few years? In the time scale within which Allan has won lots of friends?

Danzo
 
Cougar, coop and others,
First if I can type this in Chinese that would be much easy for me to tell you how much I appreciate your kind offer for the compensation.
Honestly I don't know what to do. I really hope all of these mess can be stopped immediately but I see no ending date from the new promise made by Allan Blade about the "to make few big knives then the buyers pay Joe Chen directly".
I still think to have money from you, not from Allan blade, is not that right because you guys do nothing wrong and you are all great people.
Yes I do understand your offer is an option to resolve the problem I have and give everybody a chance to release from these.

Before I tell you my decision please let me tell you a story.

Unfortunately I had involved with that "ArtSig1 thing" too. He owed me $425 that was the money I paid for a dozier folder but I returned the folder back to his new buyer and ArtSig1 didn't refund me the money. Later the money was compensated by members at another forums to me I supposed you knew this.
Yes people told me please take the money, they told me that's my money, how kind are they!
But the debt has not resolved in my mind everyday since then, I hope ArtSig1 can pay me back so I can return the money to those great guys who were willing to help me out at that time.
Truth is ArtSig1 has not paid me back and he is still somewhere out there with the "land money" in hand.

I can say 'YES' and take your kind offer for the money that Allan Blade owes me.
But this debt has not resolved just like that "ArtSig1 problem" for me, I'm not trying to say the $600 is nothing to me, actually it's a big money for a teacher like me and I do hope to get it back. Also I'm not trying to let you all great guys down to decline the offer without consideration. Please understand it's the easiest way for me to take your kind offer. But for me, it's not fair because Allan Blade is still there who makes and sells knives daily. He should and has to pay me the money not you guys.

I'm terrible sorry if I offend you with something I write, maybe me, a Chinese, have some "unresonable" thought, hope you can get the idea about what I'm talking about.

You guys are GREAT and I am really happy and honor to know you. :thumbup:

Joe
 
Joe,

I hope that you get your money...I have followed this thread and your last post made me glad that I did.

Even if you never see any more of the money you are a weathy man. You have made many friends and have compassion and understanding that no amount of money could buy.

Best Regards, Preston
 
Thanks Joe. I got private messages in support as well as those who openly wished to do something constructive.

I would have happily donated a knife for cash to get this 'resolved'. So would have others. Cougar led the charge.

Kind regards,

Coop
 
SharpByCoop said:
(Thanks Cougar!) ...and so Keith, as you are one of the champions of the cause here, I need to ask: Are you going to simply BTTT this forever or do you really want to do something about it?

I made a valid suggestion and got three respondents who are willing to make this go away and help in the process. Please join us. If you aren't willing, then explain why.

My point is fairly clear. BTTT is NOT informing people or doing any good. Ironically, at this stage, it is working against us.

Coop
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Let me know where to Paypal the cash, and I'm in. Won't be much, but I'll give what I can.
 
Preston,
Thank you man.

Coop,
I can't say thank you enough. Actually I'll do the same thing just like you and others in the future to try to help people out. This is scuh a great touch in my heart.

Also thanks a lot for people I don't know who you are for the will to help me out. Thank you very much.

For Allan Blade,
Please don't let guys at BB down. They give you full support just like me long time ago. I know what that bad feeling is so I truly hope you treat them right. And don't forget to make those big knives. Put them into your scheduler not at your spare time, please.

Joe
 
I posted above before I read Joe's last post.

I'm still in if he changes his mind.

Allen Blade;

I have said it in the past, and I'll say it again; you have talent in knifemaking, but have crappy business skills. Get someone to help you with the business side, and you make knives. You have made countless promises over the years, and have not kept them. Find a business major from the Spokane Community College, offer him/ her a knife, in exchange for them helping you prepare and implement a businees plan. Once that is done, STICK TO IT!
Once you have satified those you owe, and prove that you have moved forward with a new attitue, the lynch mob will go away, and leave you alone.
 
Okays guys I'm in just sold 2 knives on BF happy to contribute half of what I sold them for, it is not a huge amount but every little helps.
Phil
 
CODE 3 said:
Let me know where to Paypal the cash, and I'm in. Won't be much, but I'll give what I can.
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I aswell---give me a PayPal address (or physical) and I'll toss some in.

Warren
 
manofthewood said:
What people have semed to miss out on is the idea that by giving allan business he may be able to pay others off, a long shot i agree, but when options are limited i think this is worth a go, and probably better than reverting to name calling and general bad feeling towards each other...
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In an email that Allan recently sent me he stated that he was selling all the knives he could make. Even so, Joe has not been paid. Allan selling knives has not lead to Joe getting his money.

If Joe changes his mind I will give what I can in support, but I have to tell you, it irks me to pay Allan's debts for him.
 
Keith Montgomery said:
In an email that Allan recently sent me he stated that he was selling all the knives he could make. Even so, Joe has not been paid. Allan selling knives has not lead to Joe getting his money.

If Joe changes his mind I will give what I can in support, but I have to tell you, it irks me to pay Allan's debts for him.
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You and many like you, but At least Joe gets his money after six years.:D
 
I would send Joe money any time he needs it but NEVER to pay Alan Blade's debt............................Never.
 
joes one of the good guys for sure, thats why it made me so mad when he gets ripped off, just makes a bad thing worse imho, as far as chipping in to pay joe off, if joe says "ok" i'd throw in some $,

greg
 
I happen to be a member of both forums and like both very much. It distresses me to see the ill will that has been generated by the continued harange and baiting from both sides to no purpose. The subject has been carried to the point of being fanatical with NO results. Granted that people have been defrauded by a person who has no honor. Some of those must have had previous knowledge of this mans business practices and still placed their orders in spite of that knowledge. My sympathy here would have to be forced. I find it curious that the burned are not screaming for satisfaction but are letting those that smelled the smoke carry their fight. Why in Hades don't you let this useless banter drop. Over 400 postings should be enough to satisfy anyones thirst to BTTT. Get a life! ---Sandy---
 
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