Allan Blade

Martyn@BB said:
You didnt find it funny then? :D

I think Illinoishire has quite a ring to it.
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Only the British have such scintillating wit and a real appreciation for a good joke! And so, even though I'm only a poor soon-to-be Brit, I feel you will most likely split your sides laughing (unless you happen to be one who finds it more manly to titter, guffah, or snort through widened nostrils) when I tell you that I think your hometown of Wankerheadburgh has quite a ring to it. That would be pronounced 'Wankerhead-burra', would it not?

Please do correct any mistakes in my pronounciation. I do so veddy, veddy much want to fit in once Her Majesty's representatives have taken charge here. My concern, old chum, is that if I cannot speak English in the proppah manner, I may not be allowed to pay eight dollars per gallon for petrol, or (Heaven forbid!!) turn over the percentage of taxes to the collector that you noble and far-seeing Brits have stolen from you each year by your own governmental cut-purses. Hurry over! Please!! The North Atlantic is fine. No U-boats in years. If I continue for much longer to find myself with an excess of money after paying for petrol and taxes, I have this horrid... HORRID, do you hear?... dread of spending it upon procuring a nose extension so as to have the proppah facial appendage with which I can look down upon all the rednecks in this area. Be aware yourself, good Sir, and notify the guard that each hovel is filled to overflowing with human detritus and seems well provided for when it come to firearms. So I should hope that Her Majesty will understand that I must at least pretend to side with the upstart colonials until all weapons are confiscated and the video cameras are in place on each street corner.

I must say that it thrills me to think of football played without helmets! Change the rules a bit so that it's no longer a game for the faint of heart, and... by Jove!... we'll have the real game here. Rugby! Watching a good scrum would make me weep if I weren't feeling so damned British! Eyes dry, chin up. Stiff upper lip, and all that. Ramrod up the rectum to stiffen the spine and march straight into the cannon, or there'll be hell to pay! The scrum is, isn't it... and here again I ask your forgiveness for my AmericaniSed ignorance... where all the men on both teams hover over the ball with their heads up their mates' arses, shoving forward with all their might? And a final question, if I may. Is the average Rugger's IQ lower than the number of his remaining teeth, or equal to?

Do, please, rescue us from our freedoms soon. I worry that the French might take over if you don't. And, should that happen, there is the off chance they would turn Detroit into a second Paris ratha than New York into another Liverpool... something Her Majesty's troops might so quickly accomplish.

Any spelling errors can be attributed to my being totally besotted. I find myself entirely uncaring about what others think of me (especially those others who do not currently reside in Great Britian), or my lack of ability to string letters together in the correct order so as to spell a word. I am filled with pomposity and proud of it. I'm half Brit already.

Yours in defeat!

Yer most umble and obed'nt servant,

Oliver Twisted, evil twin of Jimmy Fikes
 
OleyFermo said:
Only the British have such scintillating wit and a real appreciation for a good joke! And so, even though I'm only a poor soon-to-be Brit, I feel you will most likely split your sides laughing (unless you happen to be one who finds it more polite manly to titter, guffah, or snort through widened nostrils) when I tell you that I think your hometown of Wankerheadburgh has quite a ring to it. That would be pronounced 'Wankerhead-burra', would it not?

Please do correct any mistakes in my pronounciation. I do so veddy, veddy much want to fit in once Her Majesty's representatives have taken charge here. My concern, old chum, is that if I cannot speak English in the proppah manner, I may not be allowed to pay eight dollars per gallon for petrol, or (Heaven forbid!!) turn over the percentage of taxes to the collector that you noble and far-seeing Brits have stolen from you each by your governmental cut-purses. Hurry over! Please!! The North Atlantic is fine. No U-boats in years. If I continue for much longer to find myself with an excess of money after paying for petrol and taxes, I have this horrid... HORRID, do you hear?... dread of spending it upon procuring a nose extension so as to have the proppah facial appendage with which I can look down upon all the rednecks in this area. Be aware yourself, good Sir, and notify the guard that each hovel is filled to overflowing with human detritus and seems well provided for when it come to firearms. So I should hope that Her Majesty will understand that I must at least pretend to side with the upstart colonials until all weapons are confiscated and the video cameras are in place on each street corner.

I must say that it thrills me to think of football played without helmets! Change the rules a bit so that it's no longer a game for the faint of heart, and... by Jove!... we'll have the real game here. Rugby! Watching a good scrum would make me weep if I weren't feeling so damned British! Eyes dry, chin up. Stiff upper lip, and all that. Ramrod up the rectum to stiffen the spine and march straight into the cannon, or there'll be hell to pay! The scrum is, isn't it... and here again I ask your forgiveness for my AmericaniSed ignorance... where all the men on both teams hover over the ball with their heads up their mates' arses, shoving forward with all their might? And a final question, if I may. Is the average Rugger's IQ lower than the number of his remaining teeth, or equal to?

Do, please, rescue us from our freedoms soon. I worry that the French might take over if you don't. And, should that happen, there is the off chance they would turn Detroit into a second Paris ratha than New York into another Liverpool... something Her Majesty's troops might so quickly accomplish.

Any spelling errors can be attributed to my being totally besotted. I find myself entirely uncaring about what others think of me (especially those others who do not currently reside in Great Britian), or my lack of ability to string letters together in the correct order so as to spell a word. I am filled with pomposity and proud of it. I'm half Brit already.

Yours in defeat!

Yer most umble and obed'nt servant,

Oliver Twisted, evil twin of Jimmy Fikes
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LMAO - Well that about sums up the British arguement.
 
LMAO also!:D
Jimmy,
You bust balls like no one else I've ever had the pleasure of reading,and I thought Kurt Vonnegut was good.
Yours,drenched in tears of laughter,truly,
Doug
 
leatherbird said:
LMAO also!:D
Jimmy,
You bust balls like no one else I've ever had the pleasure of reading,and I thought Kurt Vonnegut was good.
Yours,drenched in tears of laughter,truly,
Doug Castor.
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Doug, old boy, I do say!

It's 'cod' you know. Bust cod!

And since I'm rushed, I'm afraid I must bid you all adieu more Kurtly than Vonnegut... although I do so with a bow to our Doughboy Forumites so low that the feather on my hat sweeps the floor.

Jimmy, and his demon, Rum ;)
 
leatherbird said:
LMAO also!:D
Jimmy,
You bust balls like no one else I've ever had the pleasure of reading,and I thought Kurt Vonnegut was good.
Yours,drenched in tears of laughter,truly,
Doug Castor.
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Oh, so like his is funny and mine isn't? Doug, I'm hurt. ;) :D
 
Allan, LZ665034340US was accepted at the Spokane Post Office on February 11th and does not show having left the country yet. Package LZ665034353US was also accepted on February 11th and shows leaving the country on February 14th. Package LZ665034336US was accepted at the Spokane Post Office on February 23 and left the country on the 25th. In my post I had thought that I had read that all the packages had left the US, but I was in error. You posted on January 25th on British Blades that you had sent the packages and people should be seeing them within about a week or so. Don't blame the Post Office when it was you that didn't send the knives until at least two and a half weeks after you said you did. Also, don't bother saying that there must be something wrong with the dates that the Post Office has in their system. We all know that would be BS.

Martyn, as far as I remember, Allan never did any trading on Bladeforums. He never joined Bladeforums until he heard that people were badmouthing him and he came to defend himself. Also, Joe got shafted right around the time that Allan seemed to have started his unethical actions. No one had been warned about Allan until after what happened to Joe. At that point Allan would have never been allowed to sell here.
 
Keith Montgomery said:
Allan, LZ665034340US was accepted at the Spokane Post Office on February 11th and does not show having left the country yet. Package LZ665034353US was also accepted on February 11th and shows leaving the country on February 14th. Package LZ665034336US was accepted at the Spokane Post Office on February 23 and left the country on the 25th. In my post I had thought that I had read that all the packages had left the US, but I was in error. You posted on January 25th on British Blades that you had sent the packages and people should be seeing them within about a week or so. Don't blame the Post Office when it was you that didn't send the knives until at least two and a half weeks after you said you did. Also, don't bother saying that there must be something wrong with the dates that the Post Office has in their system. We all know that would be BS.
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I noticed that too, but lets just see if they arrive with the owners. A couple of weeks either way is nothing and this guys is under more than a little prressure. I do agree though, I prefer the truth, even if the news is not what I want to hear.


Martyn, as far as I remember, Allan never did any trading on Bladeforums. He never joined Bladeforums until he heard that people were badmouthing him and he came to defend himself. Also, Joe got shafted right around the time that Allan seemed to have started his unethical actions. No one had been warned about Allan until after what happened to Joe. At that point Allan would have never been allowed to sell here.
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Fair enough Keith. These events are from years ago though. I know the bloke has to put it right, but is the measure to which he is being beaten down here, really on a par with his wrongs? I dunno mate. I find it difficult to take what I see on face value. Reading through this thread, it's pretty heavy, hate-filled stuff. Much of it seems hate for hate's sake. A fair bit of it has been directed at me for nothing more than giving the bloke a chance. The last 5 pages have been largely ripping into me. I know I'm not a criminal, I've done nothing wrong. I act in what I believe to be good faith. But there are a bunch of people here having a right old go. So I come to the conclusion, they are stupid and ignorant and place little value on their judgement. I think that's a pretty reasonable assessment - dont you?

To continue to just rip the man to pieces like this, has to be a massive over-reaction. I've even read his wife getting rubbished. Think about this, if he was a conman and a grifter, then why would he still be here, years later, going through all this, trying to put it right? Would you? Wouldn't you just vanish, change your name and start over?

I'm not defending what he has done in the past, but there is a gross imbalance here. People here have utterly, utterly rubbished this man into the ground - and continue to do so - and would have me do it too. How far are you prepared to go? Would you have him put a gun to his head? Others have for less.

He aint no saint, but you go too far for me.
 
Well, IIRC, Allen Blade’s problems predate the creation of BladeForums. I think this was the thread where the admins at BladeForums decided to allow him to post here again. (I can't remember the details of what went on before that.) Notice that Mike Turber imposed guidelines that Blade had to follow if he wanted to sell at BFC.

It’s also interesting to note post #11 in the above thread:
Allen Blade said:
I think my Past was different , i had some family Problems and left for about a week period , and in doing so let a few people who had faith in me down , for which i regret. I well have everyone concerned Caught up by Christmas this year.
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Sound familiar? He wrote that in October of 1999.
 
Martyn, you come to Bladeforums knowing we have good reason for having developed a serious dislike for Allen Blade's behavior. You criticize our expressing our dislike. And then you wonder why we criticize your criticism?

Free speech means you can say pretty much anything you please. It does not mean you can't be spoken to in turn.

And if you don't like discourteous speech, don't engage in it yourself.

(We now return this station to its previous programming.)​
 
I checked back and Allan first officially joined this forum in late 1999. He was not using this forum to sell his knives. The first complaints about Allan not fulfilling his obligations did not appear until early 2001. Joe paid for his knives in 2000.

Hopefully Allan will keep his word and have those people send the payment for their knives to Joe. That would be great. It will have taken far too long, but at least this saga will be at an end.

Martyn, you have been handed a lot of hostility, and you have, in your proper British fashion, taken it with a stiff upper lip. You have gotten in a few of your own jabs however, which I am sure you knew would elicit more hostility. I am certain that as far as how you are dealing with the Allan Blade issue, you are doing what you think is best.
 
Keith Montgomery said:
I checked back and Allan first officially joined this forum in late 1999. He was not using this forum to sell his knives. The first complaints about Allan not fulfilling his obligations did not appear until early 2001. Joe paid for his knives in 2000.

Hopefully Allan will keep his word and have those people send the payment for their knives to Joe. That would be great. It will have taken far too long, but at least this saga will be at an end.
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In that respect, I think we are probably all in agreement.

Martyn, you have been handed a lot of hostility, and you have, in your proper British fashion, taken it with a stiff upper lip. You have gotten in a few of your own jabs however, which I am sure you knew would elicit more hostility.
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Yes, guilty as charged Keith. I confess to feeling a little cornered and the recipient of a fair bit of what I think was unfair hostility. I started off trying to be reasonable, but ended spoiling for a fight. My apologies.

I am certain that as far as how you are dealing with the Allan Blade issue, you are doing what you think is best.
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I am trying to mate, you can be certain of that. Obviously I'm taking a path bthat doesnt meet with the approval of BladeForums members (or at least some of the more voiceiferous ones), but please try to understand, I cant just bnlindly take on board everything that has happened here over several years and transfer it wholesale to BritishBlades. You know BB Keith, we have a different way of doing things, not better or worse particularly, but it is different to what you're used to here.

Regards,
Martyn.
 
I agree that you cannot take the content that has been produced in this matter over several years, and transfer it wholsale to BB...
What you could have done is allow those who had posted links to the affaiirs here to remain on BB, rather than editing them off you forum.
In doing that, you've done your members a disservice.
You did not allow them freedom to make up their minds whether to deal with A.B. on their own.
 
howiesatwork said:
I agree that you cannot take the content that has been produced in this matter over several years, and transfer it wholsale to BB...
What you could have done is allow those who had posted links to the affaiirs here to remain on BB, rather than editing them off you forum.
In doing that, you've done your members a disservice.
You did not allow them freedom to make up their minds whether to deal with A.B. on their own.
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You read this from October last year?

http://www.britishblades.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13221&page=3

I deeply resented having to post that by the way.

What I dont allow, is the wholesale kicking down of people just for the hell of it, from people who are largely unrelated to the issues and are just joining in for the fun of kicking someone. That's not the same as blocking information. The information regarding Allan Blade was never blocked - a gang-bang overspill from this forum was blocked.

What's happening here, is there are a bunch of people having a right good old kicking session - I wonder how many of them have personal losses? I think at least some of them are just joining in for the fun of it dont you?
 
No, I hadn't read that. Thanks for providing it.
I do enjoy your site, but haven't posted much other than offereing help on knife questions.
Yes, I agree, a few get into the discussion just for the fight.
I'm not usually one to get involved where I don't have a dog in the fight, so I'll leave it up to those involved.
 
Martyn@BB said:
To continue to just rip the man to pieces like this, has to be a massive over-reaction [...] if he was a conman and a grifter, then why would he still be here, years later, going through all this, trying to put it right?
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Or could it be that our "reactions" are based on Blade's "lack of action."

Blade is "trying to put it right?" :eek:

Blade has played his games for six years, give or take several months. I can guarantee that Joe would have preferred to have his money refunded, in full, in 2000. That's documented here. For shame, Blade decided other wise.

Blade is the one that elected to make monthly payments of $25 (a decision that wasn't made that long ago). Joe's only recourse was to agree to those terms.

Alas, how many payments has Joe received ?

Well, you can count the number of times Joe has received funds on one hand. That is also documented here.

This isn't about one lone instance. This has been is an accumulation of lies, fabrications, and untruths spanning six years.

It quite evident, by the Anti-Blade posts, that people regard social, legal, ethical, and moral responsibility high. Something that Blade has yet to live up to, here.



So, how many times does one have to turn the other cheek ?


We are very much aware that his business practices SUCK ! Unfortunately, that's no excuse.
 
Martyn@BB said:
Think about this, if he was a conman and a grifter, then why would he still be here, years later, going through all this, trying to put it right? Would you?
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Well, my guess would be largley because of threads like this one. He knows that as long as he continues to try to run his con games on people, someone from some forum that knows who he is and what he does, will pop up and spread the word.

Does anyone here honestly believe that if pressure wasn't kept on him, that he would still be making even token payments to Joe Chen or anyone else he has fleeced?
 
The sheer amount of emotional and mental energy spent on this lousy SOB is incredible. I see no end in sight here on BF, as his debt to others and Joe Chen in particular will perpetuate the madness.

I've said this before in another thread that this is all great publicity for the irreconcilable Allen Blade. Notoriety is alluring.

I've enjoyed so many of the spars by BF members and MartynBB. Incredible exchanges--better than the olympics this year... ;) But reparations are more worthy to me than the 'intellectual entertainment' and annoyance this thread brings. I would *love* this stupid thread to be buried way down in the bowels instead of greeting me every single day when I look in GB&U.

Allen is NEVER going to 'make right' his debt to Joe Chen. $25 bucks every six months for what? $600 dollars?! Sheesh. Are there others? That's the beef here on BF.

I submit that it is well worth it to me, and maybe others on this forum, to have a small donation sale of anything you have worthy, with the proceeds to go to Joe and maybe others. If this loss (which will never be addressed by Allen) is so very important to us as BF community, then I am all for US, member to member, to 'make it right'. In this case alone.

Oh yeah, there's Dale Rief, and Steve Corkum and on and on.... I don't care about them. They are also deadbeats. One incident removed at a time.

Sure you can beat me up with your dismissals and we can spend another three years reading and antagonizing others, all the while perpetating Allen Blade's legacy. Or we can do some good and wash our hands from the entire episode in a support gesture for a buddy.

Every voice is legitimate. I know there wil be detractors. What's your take?

Coop
 
SharpByCoop said:
Allen is NEVER going to 'make right' his debt to Joe Chen. $25 bucks every six months for what? $600 dollars?! Sheesh. Are there others? That's the beef here on BF.
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No, probably not in our lifetime considering the size of the payments and irregular pattern of payment that Joe has reported thus far.

The $25.00 per month is an insultingly small amount considering the amount of time that the debt has been outstanding and the $600 amount outstanding falls far short of recompense for the time, aggravation and embarrassment that Allen's failure to perform has caused Joe, who IIRC made good from his own pocket the prepayment losses suffered by the members of his group.

It should also be noted that Allen has not actually been paying Joe $25.00 per month. From the information about the payments that Joe has provided thus far IIRC the amount that he is actually receiving is net of various transfer fees and charges. Joe should not have to absorb such costs.


SharpByCoop said:
I submit that it is well worth it to me, and maybe others on this forum, to have a small donation sale of anything you have worthy, with the proceeds to go to Joe and maybe others. If this loss (which will never be addressed by Allen) is so very important to us as BF community, then I am all for US, member to member, to 'make it right'. In this case alone.
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This sounds like a good idea worthy of our support. My contribution will be modest but gladly given.

Thanks, Coop, for this constructive suggestion.
 
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