Allan Blade

[GigOne]

Goodnight Bladeforums, I don't visit you much for these reasons. I wish you all the best.

Danzo

I'm going to withdraw from this now. I respect many people here and I have no wish to offend them.

For someone that is "withdrawing," on a continual basis, from this thread. . . . .you have a great deal to say !

It does disturb me that several contributors to this thread appear to have no personal involvement. They don't have a knife from Allan, they don't have a knife on order from Allan. They weren't cheated by Allan.

They just like getting in the ring and kicking the guy on the ground. Why? Because if the guy is on the ground and being kicked then they need to join in because it's the cool kids doing the kicking.

Ahhhhh. . . . . .that's the rule. One has absolutely no say, unless that person currently owns a Blade knife, doesn't have a Blade knife on order, or were not cheated by Blade.

* I'm sorry your honor, I can't participate as a juror! Why, your honor? I've never owned a gun, I've never ordered or handled one, and I've never killed anyone. To top it off, I have absolutely no personal, first-hand involvement in the case! *

Let's swing over to the "Custom Forum". . . .

* OPINION: Beautiful bowie. . . .but. . . . .I really don't care for that type of guard. ~ ~ SUBSEQUENT POSTER: Do you currently own a knife from this maker? Have you ever owned or ordered a knife from that maker? Has this maker treated you unfairly in the past? If not STFU ! *

Let's swing over to the "Political Forum". . . .

* OPINION: I believe that weapons employed during WWII were. . . . . ~ ~ SUBSEQUENT POSTER: Did you fight in WWII? Have you ever lived in Europe? Have you ever owned a WWII era weapon? If not STFU ! *

I have no particular 'thing' for Allan or his knives. I owned one which was delivered late, as usual with Allan […] I sold it. . . . .

So. . . . .why do you continue to be involved in this ?

 

[GigOne]

So, back to the point of my original post. I genuinely thought I would put a bit of a shout post up in an effort to give people here the opprtunity to step back, stick out the chin present a reasoned sound argument, tell me the facts and where I have been wrong.

And your post provided an interesting, yet strange, way of doing that.

You basiaclly proved all the bad things I hear about BF as being right. But I have seen enough decency form members to persuade me to stay around for a bit longer - lucky you lot!

ROTFLMAO

On a final note, have you guys noticed that it appears Allen has honoured orders on BB but not on here maybe thats because on BB there was a reasonably polite discussion on the situation which was balanced and didnt involve defermation of character or comments about his mum - go figure.

I guess that's one way to justify theft.

I suggest that you perform a wee bit of research. It would help if you arrange your findings in a chronological order. You'll discover that you don't have to pull statements like this outta your ass.

 

[Mr_Yarrow]

I suggest that you perform a wee bit of research. It would help if you arrange your findings in a chronological order. You'll discover that you don't have to pull statements like this outta your ass.

Sorry didnt understand the last bit at all.

Do you mean that he stopped honouring orders on BF before on BB and as such the point is mute(sp?)

What Im trying to say is the man has responded well to BB members complaints as they have been cordial. You guys havent been anything but quite viscious.

Thats all...

 

[Lawmandan]

So. . . . .why do you continue to be involved in this ?

Simple. Because I am one of the administrators on BB.

It is becoming sadly apparent that a section of this forum, who have neither positive nor negative dealings with Allan, are the cheerleaders of a campaign against him. Enough members here whom I respect enormously have offered to resolve the financial aspects of this.

I offered to personally pay back Mike if he would provide the evidence of his purchase.

No response.

Were you cheated Mike?

Allan Blade may be a thief and a cheat. In three years on our forum he has been nothing other than a very talented knifemaker who has earned many friends.

Why am I coming back? Because I don't like burning crosses in the yard, I don't like lynchmobs and I don't like those of you who would crucify a man because of some knives.

Danzo

 

[Keith Montgomery]

Good to see that the knives have arrived for the folks a BB. Now it's time for Allan to get the next batch out.

 

[bogflogger]

In 27 pages of posts, all that I hear is a mob of Hyaena's howling for blood. Most of you do not even have any buisiness with Allan Blade.
The only sensible comments I have seen from your side of the pond were made by Sandy Morrisey. The rest of you frankly disgust me.
I am leaving now to wash my hands, after visiting your Cesspool.

 

[Keith Montgomery]

In 27 pages of posts, all that I hear is a mob of Hyaena's howling for blood. Most of you do not even have any buisiness with Allan Blade.
The only sensible comments I have seen from your side of the pond were made by Sandy Morrisey. The rest of you frankly disgust me.
I am leaving now to wash my hands, after visiting your Cesspool.

Tell somebody that gives a damn what you think.

 

[Keith Montgomery]

Also, I wouldn't walk across the street to piss on Allan Blade if he was on fire, let alone deal with him.

 

[bogflogger]

The level of bigotry and ignorance here is truly awesome F*** you pal!

 

[RedEdge77]

Wow bogflogger, i seriously thought you were leaving an hour ago? How many threads do you have to come into to say that your leaving? nobody gives a sh!t. Just leave if you want shut up about it.

This is to Lawmandan:

I did a little search and saw a lot of threads against Allen Blade recently but if you do more searching you will see in the beggining that people were understanding and didn't go right for the throat. Do a search and you will see this.

 

[pmel018]

Has he honoured the orders to mojofilter and and Martin123?

 

[Deadhead Archer]

The level of bigotry and ignorance here is truly awesome F*** you pal!

5 chest-thumping posts in Whine and Cheese...and now you've wandered into here to "bequeath wisdom"?

If it walks/talks/acts like a troll...

 

[Paul Davidson]

Sorry didnt understand the last bit at all.

Do you mean that he stopped honouring orders on BF before on BB and as such the point is mute(sp?)

What Im trying to say is the man has responded well to BB members complaints as they have been cordial. You guys havent been anything but quite viscious.

Thats all...

Go back and do a search for past threads regarding Allan/Alan/Alen/Allen Blade and you will see that he has been treated very cordially.

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What some people don't seem to know is that Mr. Blades reputation problems precede the very existence of this forum. When he first popped up on here in 1999 there were people that wanted him banned immediately, but Spark (and Mike) decided to give him a break and let him prove himself. He has been given many breaks. He has continued to F up, and has had a few different excuses each time.

Does he owe me a knife or money? The answer is no, but what difference does that make? I never lost any money in the Enron scandal but that doesn't stop me from discussing the crimes involved and having an opinion.

I have had one personal interaction with Alan Blade and it was positive. I won one of the MEUK (made with Talonite!) knives back in 1999, and it was a very nice knife with an excellent Kydex sheath. Alan was very friendly and I received the knife in a short period of time. Here's the kicker though- back then it was a young male relative of Alan's (step son?) that was taking over the business end of his knifemaking and posting on the forum. The young man had the exact same odd punctuation as Alan,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and misspelled the exact same words that Alan would frequently misspell. Of course it is very common for a step son to have the exact same writing style as his step father .

I knew very well at the time I won the knife, even before I won the knife, that Alan was posting using the identity of his step son because his reputation was already quite tarnished. I really didn't care because the knife was a free prize. Even after the crap hit the fan I considered buying a knife from Alan because he makes a great knife at a low price, but I would never pay up front or give a deposit. I considered buying one of the Mears-esque knives shown over on BB.

After 7+ years of shenanigans I still continue to hope that Alan will change his habits, but most of the people on Bladeforums have given up. For all of you folks that think people are being harsh, how many years of a repeated pattern should people put up with before a trial in the court of public opinion?

 

[SpyderJon]

I'll never forget the day BF got its own ENGLISH trolls **wipes a single tear away**

Seriously, if it please the newer members who've come to watch the show, would it be enough just to admit that the folks on BF and BB are NEVER going to see eye-to-eye on the AB thing. Yeah, he's honored the orders over there. You must understand that that has NOTHING to do with AB and how he's seen over here. For the record, a good deal of the posts of late (the last 4-8 pages?) have come from the tangent crap. If Martyn's view is that BB owes BF nothing, then the same goes for BF in regards to BB. Thus, all you new members who feel so inclined to voice your outrage at the treatment of Mr. Blade- knowing how he has conducted his business here, can kindly remove yourselves. We owe you NOTHING.

I accept Martyn's apology, and thank him for it. That's all one can do.

-Anthony

 

[Cliff Stamp]

Also, I wouldn't walk across the street to piss on Allan Blade if he was on fire, let alone deal with him.

These are exactly the kinds of posts Blade needs to convince people not to pay attention to complaints made about him on Bladeforums. You are helping his case just as much as the people who promote his knives directly. He is guilty of commiting various acts of petty larceny (or grand depending on specific laws) and lying about it, the above is absurd and destroys any credability in those who wield it as extremists.

As for those who asked why people would be involved if they have not had dealings. I have bought knives from Blade, payed for them partially up front, had them delivered on time (long ago). This doesn't mean I ignore others, simply because someone doesn't commit a crime against me doesn't mean they are not a criminal. I also don't even need to be friends with those who are wronged for it to matter.

-Cliff

 

[Keith Montgomery]

...F*** you pal!

Right back at you.

 

[Keith Montgomery]

These are exactly the kinds of posts Blade needs to convince people not to pay attention to complaints made about him on Bladeforums.

That's exactly how I feel, and I'm not going to sugar coat it to be politically correct. If people are willing to ignore what Allan has done and use my comments as a reason to purchase from Allan then so be it.

 

[Lawmandan]

I did a little search and saw a lot of threads against Allen Blade recently but if you do more searching you will see in the beggining that people were understanding and didn't go right for the throat. Do a search and you will see this.

Thanks Red, and I respect you for that comment. I trust it will be noted that I have been polite most of the time.


Red, if you read this thread you will find a lot of tolerance and understanding of Allan from lots of people around the world. And a lot of anger towards him.

Nobody at BB doubts the anger felt here, but we do have a problem with a small group of people on this single thread whose sole objective is to crucify a man. I wasn't brought up to treat people like that.

So if some of the BF membership who can only drive a stick shift because gears confuse them decide that they will join in the kicking of Allan as he is on the ground them I will step in and defend Allan.

And as he supplied me with a knife almost three years ago then I have grounds to defend him.

I'm sick to death of wannabes joining in a group kicking of Allan. If you have an outstanding debt then admit to it and we can try and ensure the debts are paid.

If not then go and remind your senator that children are living in poverty in your state. That's a bit more important.

I will stand by Allan until he lets my members down. Is that clear?

Danzo

 

[RWS]

Why am I coming back? Because I don't like burning crosses in the yard, I don't like lynchmobs and I don't like those of you who would crucify a man because of some knives.

Danzo

Actually, It's not about knives, It's about being ripped off by someone who might not be only a good knifemaker, but also a conman thief.

The very good people here that have come out in support of one of their own knife collecting brothers, who was a victim of this guy, are not convinced that Alan is reborn into the repentfully wonderful guy you feel he's turned into.

They don't want to see him get away with this garbage because they feel he stole from one of their forum friends and he doesn't appear to show any remorse for it. In fact, I think he wants everyone to believe he's the victim of us here.

As a group of friends in this place, people like to stand up for each other against these types of evil practices.

Let me ask you, would you ever go to somebodies aide if you saw they were being harmed or wronged? The answer is yes. You're doing it now in your posts here because you think Alan is being wronged.

Lawmandan, pretend for a moment that Alan had taken your money and never sent you the knives that he promised you. How would you have handled it at your knife forum? Would you still be in support of him there? Be honest.

If Alan is really trying to be an honest knifemaker, that's great. But, is he really?

.........Oh, wait!....I forgot.....I wasn't ripped off by Alan so I should keep my mouth shut.

 

[G3]

Simple. Because I am one of the administrators on BB.

It is becoming sadly apparent that a section of this forum, who have neither positive nor negative dealings with Allan, are the cheerleaders of a campaign against him.

I have no interests with either party. Everything preceding the original issue of AB and Joe is fuel. I'm here posting because I read the thread, saw some BS posted by BB members and I take that personally mad: Yarrow). Now it becomes an issue with me. Regardless of the original situation. Now I'll post. Keep your comments inline with the issue and you wont have a problem with everyone else chiming in. We are not cheerleaders, we're reinforcements.