Allan Blade

I have a question that i have yet to see answered;

Has Martyn or Danzo actually ran a search on Allan (Allen) Blade, and read about his history?

And another question for Danzo; since you refer to us here at BFC as scumbags, why do you keep associating with said scumbags?

You BB'ers just don't get it, and you never will.

Go away. The scumbags are sick of your dribble.
 
Martyn@BB said:
I know you have a difficult job with this thread Cougar and I do sympathise (I am an admin afetr all), but I'm in the minority here which is why my posts are containing a large % or retorts and rebuttals - historical or otherwise. It's leaving the thread kind of one-sided. :)

We can only hope everyone who has any interest in the historical discussion will follow the link and see it all. There are two sides to that discussion.
 
CODE 3 said:
The scumbags are sick of your dribble.
This pretty much says it all.

Allan Blade has burned his bridges here.

We have our opinion, you are entitled to yours. Thank you for sharing your opinion.

In the meantime, the opinion here of Allan Blade has not changed.

Let's keep it civil. We don't agree with you, but it isn't in our interest to go to your forum and stir up the pot. We only ask the same of you.
 
I have at no time hammered BB. My problem is with Allan Blade only. The folks at BB can support/defend Allan if they wish, that is their prerogative. It is my prerogative to consider Allan to be scrote.
 
Keith,

I agree with you. I posted the above quotes for two reasons, one, Allan is making the same promises made earlier here there, and it is good to call out, two, tolerance is being preached by some and names called in another forum. There are a number of individuals I respect from BB, and have known on other forums (where most of my activity is centered, I tend to follow this forum for information). I do have to say that the Admins of BB have left a bad taste in my mouth.

For those that want this to go away and die. I personally believe that threads like this serve a great good in the knifemaking community at large. A new maker (or old maker for that matter) can look at threads like this and learn a valuable lesson. A reputation is a hard thing to build, a very easy thing to destroy. Once destroyed it is very hard to re-earn. I personally wish Allan would have re-built his in the proper way. It appears he chose not to however. As the saying goes "sometimes your only purpose in life is to serve as an example to others".

I also hope that no one else ever gets burned by Allan (or anyone else for that matter), but I again harbor doubts.

--Carl
 
it's amazing the lengths people will go to rationalize their decision to do business with folks that have serious honesty/integrity problems like allen blade has


especially if the feel they are "getting a good deal"
 
bandaidman said:
it's amazing the lengths people will go to rationalize their decision to do business with folks that have serious honesty/integrity problems like allen blade has


especially if the feel they are "getting a good deal"

You know, you blokes are increadible. You just have to be kicking somebody. You have to be down on somebody, mobbing them. If it isnt Allan, then it's me for Aiding & Abetting, or being greedy, lacking honsty, questioning my integrity, just for letting him do business. I dont even own one of his knives and never have and you are accusing me of being greedy. You really are a bunch of bigotted, anti-everyone, hate filled assholes who get your rocks off from kicking anyone that's lying down, all twisted up from the wieght of your hate.

I apologise, I really, really am sorry I ever came here and I'm sure you'll all be delighted to know I wont be back. Why? Because your hate and poinson is infectious. I'm a decent bloke, but I feel like I've been infected and reduced to the level of a moron. Trading insults with a bunch of bile-filled zealots. That's not me. That's what a few days of being here has done to me - and I need to DeTox.

I have no interest is mixing it up with you blokes, but what the hell is this place about? This forum doesnt provide a service - unless you call providing an excuse to behave like bullies a service. You blokes have so lost perspective here - even one of the mods here likened him to a nonce (british for kiddie fiddler) - WTF is that about? You are so far off track with this whole concept. Even if once it was well meaning, it is so destructive I totally fail to see how anyone is benefitting from this.

Anyway, I'm out of here, once I've gone you can all take great pleasure in running me down, rubbishing my name, my country and my website for the umpteenth time, which I'm sure you will do with great entheusiasm.

I really am stunned and perplexed at the level of poison that is being spat in all directions here.

As my old nan used to say "there's nowt as funny as folk".

Dosvidanya, tovarich.
 
Oh, rubbish this, Marty.

Seriously, cry us a river, tell you what. Come back in a few months when the knives are not here. Maybe you need to wonder why, out loud, where Joe's knives went, as they were paid for five years back. Wonder Allan screwed a widow out of money for material he badmouths. Wonder why Mad Dog caught Allan, or Scott as he as known at the time, with a car full of tools and patterns when he was canned from Mad Dog Knives. Wonder why Allan does not simply settle up a measly $1000 five-year personal debt?

Hell, just wonder why the community here, LONG established, is not putting up with it quietly.

Momma told me to find something I was good at - if being an "asshole" is it, so be it pal - detox in that best internet fashion - rationalize whatever bullsh!t you have to, whine and moan when the knives don't show, do whatever makes you happy. Bullies my ass, you whiny little prick, BFC has rallied around Joe and made his cause ours. Maybe it's tough for you to understand, but if the knives don't show, we'll get behind your backside too.
 
Well, this whole forum is about reporting the dealing experiences with knife dealers, makers, and private sellers and buyers. If you read more than this thread, you'll find that GB&U is--I would guess--easily 80% positive, though I'd say it's probably much higher than that. Most problems get wrapped up quickly, and the grand majority of threads here are talking about how honest, generous, easy to deal with and friendly their subjects are. It is only a very few here who continue to get bad reports over and over again. I think you're far more than smart enough to have realized that one poster defending this person was not going to turn the tide of feeling here--and it is a tide, because some people have been out and out cheated by this man, many have been lied to in an effort to get money (myself included), many more are friends of the people who fall into the first two categories, and ALL who have followed this thread have watched Allan pop on from time to time and make promises he does not keep, followed by insults to those who want him to keep them, followed by apologies for his quick temper and assurances of better behavior in the furture, followed by promises HE DOES NOT KEEP. Both of our societies, in our laws and in our lives, work on precedent.

To expect a couple of of posts in his favor to counteract all of that negative history is naive, and I don't really believe you're naive. I think you like to argue and are good at arguing, but haven't--as evidenced by the hot and cold nature of your posts--learned to accept the fact that people are just as free to judge you as you them.

If you do not choose to visit here anymore that is certainly your perogative, but I feel you have intention of spreading your newfound dislike for BF, based entirely on the one thread you could find that was seriously negative in the one area of the entire forum that is dedicated to dealing with problems. If you'll suffer through one last analogy, it's somewhat like going to a foreign country, finding a court house, spending your entire time there, and then going back and reporting to your friends that "All anyone does over there is argue!"

But, such is life. You're as wed to your own belief as you vehemently accuse others here of being to theirs, though I'm sure you characterize your own hatred of those with completely opposite viewpoints to your own with much more palatable words like, "They're just so unreasonable." The implication, of course, being that if they saw things your way, they would be reasonable. Well, I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings but people will always disagree with you, and losing your temper, name calling, and being reduced to uncontrollable angst will never win you an argument, or gain you respect. And the fact that all the other kids were doing it doesn't make it any more impressive. If all this seems condescending--it's supposed to--but that's because it is highly disappointing to see a post like your last one coming from someone who has shown himself capable of reason in earlier messages. Sorry if you disagree.

Take care,
t1
 
Martyn@BB said:
I'm a decent bloke, but I feel like I've been infected and reduced to the level of a moron.
Glad you have so high an opinion of yourself.

Trading insults with a bunch of bile-filled zealots. That's not me. folk".
Sure didn't take you long to get into the swing of it.

Dosvidanya, tovarich.
I hope not.
 
Oh rubbish Martyn!!!

My issue with you is that you have come to MY forum and acted like an asswhole. I do not care that you are a member of another forum or it's Administrator.

You are defending a scumbag, that is my opinion and it will not change.

As to whether you remain an asswhole, that's up to you...........

Now STFU and go away or become a productive member of BFC......
 
Spyderjohn - oddly enough i actually take offience at the trolling accusation. I understand the definition of trolling as coming to a forum to post inflamatory remarks, only designed to annoy - yes? I dont think ive done that;

I came here, made a rather bitter post which made me look a bit stupid, my error was pointed out and I later amended it as I agreed that I had said something untrue. Not sure where the trolling is their?

I also had another look around the place last night and saw a few posts that sparked my interest and posted in them, offered advice to a member and also posed a few questions as I wanted to know more info - again not very trollish is it?

Gig - face it mate your a twit arent you? If you read my post properly you wouldnt have come back with a useless response. My question to you was why should it matter that he had a bad history here if he now has a good track record on BB and is slowly paying back Joe? I didnt ask for you to explain cronology did I? You took my serious comment/point I was trying to make, whilst being cordial, and turned it into an insult to my intelligence - way forward dude!

As I said, you guys are lucky enough to have me stay here a while longer and have a look around, so maybe see you in the future.

Rgds
 
Mr_Yarrow said:
My question to you was why should it matter that he had a bad history here if he now has a good track record on BB and is slowly paying back Joe?
He may have a good track record on BB but he still has a bad track record here. He is paying Joe back so slowly that he is effectively not paying him back at all. He has arrogantly denied any obligation to repay other debts, including one to a deceased man's widow.

As I said, you guys are lucky enough to have me stay here a while longer ...
I wouldn't call that luck.
 
Esav Benyamin said:
He may have a good track record on BB but he still has a bad track record here. He is paying Joe back so slowly that he is effectively not paying him back at all. He has arrogantly denied any obligation to repay other debts, including one to a deceased man's widow.


I wouldn't call that luck.

Cool, thanks for the more info on it Esav.

You are lucky, really you are, Im actually considered a contributing member of society in some circles.

Rgds
 
Mr_Yarrow said:
My question to you was why should it matter that he had a bad history here if he now has a good track record on BB and is slowly paying back Joe?


You want someone to provide you "Cliff Notes" and spoon feed you the basic information on the situation. By the way, something that has been hashed, rehashed, and flipped every way imaginable in this thread. Hell, you don't have A CLUE when it comes to Joe receiving money from Blade. :yawn:

Yet, you prance your friggin' ass into the fray, with your thumb up you ass, and contribute nothing but BS.

As far as you being cordial. . . . . .
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Hmmmmmmm

Cordial is defined as, " affable. . . . .diffusing warmth and friendliness. . . . .showing warm and heartfelt friendliness."



Please, drop in again. A little suggestion for your next visit. . . . . .kindly remove you head from your ass. It's quite evident that your brain is suffering from oxygen deprivation. ;)
 
Pay Joe back slowly? Yep, at about the same rate that evolution happened. Since he never did go through the bankruptcy that he talked about then he still owes all the suppliers he never paid, including Christine Simonich. Is he making an effort to pay those people? No. You folks can think of him as a real stand up guy because he hasn't screwed you over, I prefer to look at the whole picture. It amazes me what some people are prepared to ignore.
 
I find it somewhat amusing that a dividing line has been drawn by a group of fellow knife collectors at BB between those over there that didn't get screwed by this guy and those over here that did.

Wouldn't propriety dictate that in support of our own hobby the dividing line by all knife collectors, who were made aware of this guys history, should have been drawn between the crook and all collectors in general (i.e., a line between the bad in our hobby and the good in our hobby). Instead we got the "as long as our good ol' buddy Alan doesn't screw me, what he did to other fellow knife collectors is their problem and not my concern. We don't care what he's done to anyone else as long as he makes us happy" attitude.

Nice!:thumbup:
 
Mr_Yarrow said:
Thanks Keith, glad to know more background.


ROTFLMAO


I rest my case.

Shall someone fetch your slippers. . . . or maybe a bit of liquid embellishment. . . . .or. . . . .or. . . . . newpaper ?

Jesus H., don't strain yourself learning on your own. :jerkit:
 
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