Allan Blade

Rat Finkenstein said:
Do not make the mistake of believing Allan Blade is an idiot. Con Men are not idiots, they are just liars and thieves.

There are plenty of talented knifemakers. Most of them are not low down dirty lying snakes.
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Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that he's not a con man, but what I am saying is that he's lost all credibility (certainly on the main forums) & prolly won't remain a knifemaker much longer.

That's idiocy;)
 
Colin, there are other makers who produce better products without the misbehavior. Why support one who repeatedly fails to keep his word? I can even suggest makers with prices just as low for better value.

Cougar, I've heard of "character" for lots of things -- truthfulness, etc. I never heard of "character" for reacting to being gratuitously called a crook. But this is a place to learn -- I guess.
 
Thomas Linton said:
Colin, there are other makers who produce better products without the misbehavior. Why support one who repeatedly fails to keep his word? I can even suggest makers with prices just as low for better value.
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Thomas, I'm not saying that one should support him, just that it's a shame to lose a talented maker to idiocy.
 
CODE 3 said:
You disagree with what goes on here, and are accusing the moderators of facilitating half wits, and a lynch mob mentality. This of course, is untrue.

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Perhaps you should read at least some of this thread!.

This is exactly what you are doing. Almost every country has laws that are there to stop people expressing there views against others with a gun (by killing them) and if your only letting off steam by calling people :jerkit: 's then your letting people do just that.

Personally I think that the whole lot you you are complete morons particularly the Moderators who stand by and let a person be bullied such as this if you were in government and Allen blade came to court would you stand back while everyone he owes money to and others beat the shit out of him ..? If the answer to this question is yes then I suggest you shoot yourself now.

Societies (as BB and BF are) need control in order to remain a society not for the most but there will always be some who are out for a fight (mentally deficient) and by allowing them to continue uncontrolled will end up with them killing a innocent bystander who was in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Allen blade is yet to be PROVEN a thief and your not in a position to decide if he is one or not. It is of course still entirely possible that he is genuinely in trouble with limited access to his emails. It is unlikely but its not your place to decide!!!

I think that your decision to ban Martyn for doing nothing other than defending himself and his property in a manner which you allow other members to is well frankly just daft, you claim to allow people to say whatever they like and then you ban somebody for doing just that.

Those of you in here who feel the need to punctuate your posts with insults need to grow up a bit, seriously calling somebody a :jerkit: from miles away is just childish I would find it most interesting to see how well you people function in public walking around and calling everyone who disagrees with you a wanker. Does that sound like a productive member of society?

This looks like a place set up so that people can shit on each other on a regular basis and occasionally discuss knives.
 
knife-man said:
Personally I think that the whole lot you you are complete morons
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Tarring with a wide brush, are we? Even the BF members who are also BB members? What about BF members who are from Australia, Canada, Central and South America, European countries and Asia? You know, people who are not the clumsy, gauche, ill-mannered redneck-cowboy-ugly-American stereotypes that you look down your nose on? Are they complete morons as well?

Do shut up.
 
Martyn is a Moron, but

Alan Blade remains a THIEF

Edited to add that maybe Martyn re-registering under another handle is really TTO??
 
knife-man said:
Allen blade is yet to be PROVEN a thief and your not in a position to decide if he is one or not.
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Interesting, to say the least !

The chronologically challenged need to go back to 2001 (approx.) and read reality.

Here's a start. . . . .

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=161795

:D


ETA: The lack of Allan Blade (Scott Fowler), in the knife world, is not a loss !
 
The word gun has nothing to do at all with what`s going on here. What is going on here is just old fashioned thievery, witness the same scenario with Steve Corkum. People placed orders faithfully with the two people and don`=t have anything to show for it. The customers should be allowed to be angry about what is going on, as well as an other person concerned about knives. No one has threatened anyone on either side, however the side that`s across the ocean, thinks that butter should be spread on the bread and all should be forgiven. People on both sides should be able to speak their minds, as many people have been lost in wars, just so others can say what they want to. Kudos and megadittos to us rednecks, and I ought to know, being a Texan.
 
Martyn@BB said:
How dare you put words in Sal's mouth? Sal and I are great friends, a disagreement is not an insult. You bringing up a difference of opinion, that I might add was nothing but gentlemanly throughout, for the sole purpose of slinging mud, is crass, iappropriate and frankly, far too fucking typical of this place.

I'm telling you, if Sal is half the man I know him to be, obsequious, fawwning, slime-balls like you, will make him vomit.
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Martyn is already banned here, but I'm going to respond since he's probably going to be lurking ;)

I'm not putting words in anyone's mouth. I gave my opinion regarding your responses to the request for input.

Your first response to the idea was:

"Nija death dagger with serratuions and a hole in the blade, meets funny nordic pukko." (your spelling errors, not mine)

The sarcasm, rolling eyes smilies, etc. continued for a number of posts. The thread can be seen by anyone who is interested (although I'm not sure why) here:

http://www.britishblades.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21998

I'll put my "gentlemanly" behavior up against yours any day of the week and still not have to resort to name-calling.

David
 
MartynBB can whine all he wants, but his "I'll do in your house what I would never allow in my own" statement pretty much sums up everything he is.
 
The Last Confederate said:
MartynBB can whine all he wants, but his "I'll do in your house what I would never allow in my own" statement pretty much sums up everything he is.
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Exactly.

Martyn et al, you obviously have a problem with BFC's free speech rule, and our rule of NOT DELETING THREADS OR POSTS! We ask that our members 'play nice', and for the most part, that happens. However, it is NOT our jobs to act as a censor, or a baysitter, and tell people what they can or cannot post. If you take exception to a poster, than call them to task. just don't be a jerkoff like you were prior to being shoved off the end of the plank.

I do agree with Keith though; Martyn isn't in bed with Blade; Martyn was trying to be a bit more understanding and patient with him that we are/ were, and he ended up getting burned. I am sorry for that. However, we did warn you that it would happen.

Knife-man, obviously your definition of lynch mob mentality differs from mine.

Folks, this display from Martyn should show one other thing; the moderators have no patience when it comes to trashing on us in an open forum. It is one of the quickest ways to get escorted down the plank with a boot up your ***.
 
Well it looks like Martyn decided to tell everyone here exactly what he thought of them, in no uncertain terms. I had a feeling that being called an accomplice to a thief would get him back here, and rightly so. I understand why he did what he did, just not why he chose to do it in the way he did.

Knife-man, you should know more about a persons history before you post things like "Allen blade is yet to be PROVEN a thief and your not in a position to decide if he is one or not.". Almost six years ago Allan took money for knives from Joe Chen. He never provided the knives, so about three years ago he promised Joe a refund. He has only provided Joe with a portion of that refund (sargey actually provided as much or more). So, are you saying that he has the rest of his life to pay Joe, and if he finally does that he isn't a crook? That's like saying that if a guy robs a bank and makes restitution 20 years later, that he isn't a thief. What Allan is now doing on BB he did before. I have my doubts that Joe is the only one from Allan's past that has been screwed over.
 
Colin KC said:
One of the saddest things to come out of this sorry affair is the fact that, even after this mess is cleared up (& I sincerely hope it is, soon) is that no one will really trust Allen ever again & we will have lost a talented knifemaker through his own damn fool idiocy:(
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who the hell cares if alan is "lost". as stated dozens of times there are so many good, honest just plain great smiths around to worry about that loser, why anyone would worry about him is beyond me......he's certainly nothing special and his knives arent either FWIW, i can name a dozen better smiths with no problem at all.

i think if martyns gonna be pissed he outta be pissed at alan blades if he's pissed at anyone, he's the one who started all this BS. but wow he did "cop an attitude" huh? it might be time for him to have a valium etc or whatever his poison is and consider how embryonic and moronic he looks now,

might be a dumb country boy from TX, and a windowlikker, but one thing i'm not is foolish enough to prepay a knife from alan blade after folks tell me he's a thief and he's gonna rip me off,

i have known joe on these forums for yrs and have done a deal or 2 with him and the reason i follow this thread is to attempt to get joe chen his $$ back from alan blade, he has been owed $$ wayyyyy to long now, and i'll continue to do so until joe gets his $$ back.

i still cant believe anyone would prepay a knife from alan blade after reading threads about folks he has ripped of and who are trying to get there money back, without much luck i may add, and its not one person who prepays him its what, 9 or 10?? i mean really guys, WTF is up with that?? is it innocence, naivety, inexperience, ignorance, what?? its sure not intelligence thats for sure.

sure feel bad for them but i think if anyone gets any $$ back #1 on the list outta be joe chen.
 
Allan's knives are good, but not so good that I will lament the fact that he has destroyed any chance he had of making it as a knifemaker. There are lots of makers that make knives as good or better and some of them are in his price range as well.

Allan fully deserves to made a pariah.
 
They prepaid because Martyn told them we were all full of shiit!!!!

Martyn was never an accomplice, just a Bleeding-heart ...............
 
Well, I would have to say that Martyn is full of shit as well, and has helped enable someone to commit a crime against his brothers (and sisters) in the knife nut community.
 
wolfmann601 said:
They prepaid because Martyn told them we were all full of shiit!!!!

Martyn was never an accomplice, just a Bleeding-heart ...............
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IMO, Martyn was trying to solve an akward situation where it was already proven that Allan Blade would not / could not pay back the money out of conscience alone. So he let him operate in hopes of getting money to their rightful owners.

I believe Martyn also explained (politely at first):

1. He would not allow people to just call Blade a thief and a liar because it would result in pages of posts trashing Blade (from people who didn't even have business with him). Just look at this one - 60+ pages and about 20 are to and from Martyn / BB.

2. BB members are also members of other forums and like any other purchase - caveat emptor. If you're big enough to handle a sharp knife then you're big enough to do online business. Not pre-paying for a goods is common sense among adults and some don't expect to be told that.

I think this message got lost between the insults and the gloating, and although there is no excuse for Martyn's language* in his last posts, I sincerely believe the man was doing what he thought was best for the knife community - by keeping Blade on (and got arse-raped by Blade for his efforts).

*I can't say I wouldn't have acted the same though, if called a liar / thief.
 
I realise Im about as welcome here as a dose of herpes, but Id just like to make it VERY clear Martyn and Knife-Man are two very differnt people, they may share the same views on some subject matters, but arent one in the same person with differnt log-ins.

You of course may not care, but I thought its important people know that.

Rgds
 
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