Anyone heard of this guy?

[Esav Benyamin]

The forum is not a place. It is the sum of its posting members, each of whom can speak for himself. The democratic principle in action: every independent voice shapes our common environment.

We don't need to be shown as a nice place. We need to be shown as an effective analytical process.

 

[Esav Benyamin]

I think deep down inside he really likes the attention...

There is that possibility, that he doesn't get much attention at his place of business. As they say, there is no bad advertising. Look how many potential customers are now aware of his mahvelous product line.

ha ha ha ha ha

 

[Keith_H]

The forum is not a place. It is the sum of its posting members, each of whom can speak for himself. The democratic principle in action: every independent voice shapes our common environment.

We don't need to be shown as a nice place. We need to be shown as an effective analytical process.

that is true, and that is why I feel that it is not a place for childish insults. You are right in saying that it is a common environment that is shaped by all, and that common environment should be a good place to share knowledge about a seller, I have no experience with the knife or the seller, so i am not going to continue to bash his marketing.

 

[Brian Jones]

All is well in the world, Keith, no worries. You had good intentions, you just put words in others' mouths that they did not express. You didn't speak on behalf of all of us, nor some of us -- only yourself.

 

[Keith_H]

All is well in the world, Keith, no worries. You had good intentions, you just put words in others' mouths that they did not express. You didn't speak on behalf of all of us, nor some of us -- only yourself.

sorry about that, I worded it wrong

 

[wolfmann601]

Keith, re read this thread again. There is no need for me to apologize and it certainly is inappropriate for you to do so on other's behalf.

BFC is a great place that expects honesty from those intending to make money from us (Knifeknuts). There have been no threats of violence and nothing at all to scare Mrs. Lightning, should she exist.

What mrs. Lightning should fear is Karma. She and her husband are using deceptive business tactics (trying to be nice now) in order to sell their wares. Bogus Claims of being the designer, misleading information about the knife's beginning, bogus claims of multiple heat treats, silly claims about the knife's sharpness, and ridiculous claims of one's background solely for the purpose of financial gain. What goes around comes around as they say and Mrs. Lightning should fear.......................Lightning!!!!

 

[Pritch]

At this point, all we can really do is stand around kicking a dead horse. As Mr. Lightning refuses to answer any of the legitimate questions regarding the origins and manufacture of his knife, or to elaborate on his "tactical operator" experience, continuing to lampoon him doesn't really serve any purpose. (Other than comedic value.)

I would be interested to see what the principals at TOPS have to say about this knife, and how the editor of Tactical Knives would respond to the near-magical qualities that Mr. Lightning ascribes to the Razr.

If you google "lightning razr knife" this thread comes up second, right after the Pro-Tect website. Hopefully anybody thinking about buying the Razr will see this thread and at least get an idea of the questions they should be asking.

-- FLIX

 

[BlazenGem]

the blade looks pretty ugly to me, like one of those fantasy knives. or a knife that tries to have too many features, but not great at any

 

[Keith_H]

Keith, re read this thread again. There is no need for me to apologize and it certainly is inappropriate for you to do so on other's behalf...

I realize that, i just don't like scaring women

I was apologizing for dragging somebody into a thread that does not demonstrate what the forum is all about. ( i know it is a knife discussion, and thats what were doing, but i feel like i look presumptuous judging a knife like this)

once again, bad wording on my part. ( i had "I" in there, but i don't remember why i put "us" )

 

[Brian Jones]

FLIX is right. It had run its course (so I thought) and was already getting tedious. We got a little more comedic value out of JLightning's last post, but it is getting repetitive isn't it?

 

[Esav Benyamin]

If he were willing to sell for a bit less per item, he could have described all his knives honestly as upgrades off what he felt were good knives that didn't take their potential as far as he could.

He would be starting with what amount to kit knives, which is similar to what many Scandinavian makers do, who build knives from blades that other makers provide them.

We have a steady stream of new knifemakers here, who work in the light of day, showing us their progress and sharing their knowledge among themselves while we follow their improving work.

Look at the prices Chris Reeve or Bark River or Spyderco get for their fixed blades, for which they don't see the need to make hyperbolic claims. These are successfully marketed and earn honest profits.

Many of our discussions, like this one, get rowdy, but eventually arrive at truth the way a piece of metal gets beaten into shape on an anvil. Hard to see at the start what it will be in the end, but that's why we let the thread run its course, and let it die by seeing everyone .. just .. quit .. posting.

 

[Robert H]

Could you let us know about the quality of the knife and how useful it seemed?

It seemed like a Tops knife, with someone's name scrawled in it, and a bunch of sharp gimmicky edges. About as useful as the Tracker, I'd say, which some worship, but I see as a gimmick as well.

I had no idea what it cost, it's history, or who made it. I actually thought it was a sort of wannabe survival knife, but I get a lot of those, so I simply sheathed it and sent it back to the customer.

If he would have asked my opinion about it, I would have said the same thing I say to Tracker owners:

"It's your money. Personally I'd buy a hatchet, SAK, firestarter, big warm jacket, and with the money I STILL have left over, I'd throw in a backpack and put even more useful stuff in, like FOOD, so I can live in relative comfort."

But I recognize I make toy holders for men half the time, and I buy just as many toys as anyone else, so spend your money as you see fit.

But if I find out you're bringing down my product while making a lame attempt to use the same name, you can suck my balls.

 

[Keith_H]

Thanks Robert, good answer.

 

[nick-nack]

... I came to this thread a day later and an extra 4 pages thinking he has answered at least one question but all he does is duck questions...
Each of his posts are all based on some incredible image that we are all fat lard asses who like insulting everyone. Little he knows there is a larger slab of military people, highly classed knifemakers and several wilderness instructors.


Mr Lighting (or whatever it is) would it be that hard to answer ate least 1 question...?

 

[3Guardsmen]

Cause Fishes Get Vicious!

The new Blackberry TFK (Tactical Fishing Knife) was designed for professional de-animators of fish! Wanna-be’s need NOT place an order! It features a quintuple heat-treated blade, gut-hook, and razor sharp “shark fin” styled “shreddr” saw. It comes complete with a fishing pole and reel (fishing line sold separately), so you can catch and clean your fish at the same time! A spaced ray skin wrapped handle will let the fish know what’s in store for them! There’s also a picatinny rail to attach flashlights or lasers (flashlights and lasers sold separately), to temporarily blind the little creatures just before you catch them. The knife also comes with a coffee grinder (coffee grinds sold separately) on the butt so you can keep awake while crawling through the weed-lined shore banks in search of tasty seafood.

Designed by I. Catchem, a member of the elite fishing group, “Pokemon Poll Packers.” This group is so secret that even the fish are unaware of their existence. That is, until they strike! Don’t be fooled by similar products, this one will keep you going while you catch the mother load!

Regards,
3G

 

[sixfoot7]

Dear Mr. Lightning/Peters a.k.a. "Operator",

Wow, three long-winded posts, and still no answers to any of our questions, which would of been easier than a picture of your death-dealing dog (oooh so scared now). Thank you for proving my points I made in my post (#253), especially where I mentioned that you don't believe in your own product. Read the post if you want further clarification.

And you continue to dig yourself deeper:

Since I do what I do, her job is my secretary, especially communications, e-mail and the like.

...my products and company

trashing her company

I'm sorry, whose company is it? It's unclear, just like your "test the quality of my knife but if you want a refund send it back in unused condition." guarantee :foot:

I then took the text and read just some of it, just enough to see some of the most unbelievable crap about me, my products and company, the word scam used constantly, and several threats against us of physical harm.

If you had done what you stated, you would have realized you could go a long way to gaining some credibility simply by answering some of the good questions so far, instead of posting doggie pictures. Would have taken the same amount of time, or less even.

I think it would be extremely wise to get control of your people immediately

Who exactly are those? And what have they done? None of the other forum members are his people, you must have your e-mails mixed up. Easy to do, seeing as you don't read any of them, your wife does.

Think that was slanderous or libelous?

Rik Verra

 

[Jos]

Cause Fishes Get Vicious!

The new Blackberry TFK (Tactical Fishing Knife) was designed for professional de-animators of fish! Wanna-be’s need NOT place an order! It features a quintuple heat-treated blade, gut-hook, and razor sharp “shark fin” styled “shreddr” saw. It comes complete with a fishing pole and reel (fishing line sold separately), so you can catch and clean your fish at the same time! A spaced ray skin wrapped handle will let the fish know what’s in store for them! There’s also a picatinny rail to attach flashlights or lasers (flashlights and lasers sold separately), to temporarily blind the little creatures just before you catch them. The knife also comes with a coffee grinder (coffee grinds sold separately) on the butt so you can keep awake while crawling through the weed-lined shore banks in search of tasty seafood.

Designed by I. Catchem, a member of the elite fishing group, “Pokemon Poll Packers.” This group is so secret that even the fish are unaware of their existence. That is, until they strike! Don’t be fooled by similar products, this one will keep you going while you catch the mother load!

Regards,
3G

Does the coating shed ultra fine airborne sand?

 

[Brian Jones]

I'm sorry, whose company is it? It's unclear, just like your "test the quality of my knife but if you want a refund send it back in unused condition." guarantee :foot:

Ok, new theory. He's a cross-dressing multiple personality. Like Victor/Victoria, only John/Joanna. Depending on the phase, you never know whether he's posting while wearing tactical nylon, or just nylons.

+1 3G!! Love the new product. Only $10,000? But how much is the sheath?

 

[wolfmann601]

Cause Fishes Get Vicious!

The new Blackberry TFK (Tactical Fishing Knife) was designed for professional de-animators of fish! Wanna-be’s need NOT place an order! It features a quintuple heat-treated blade, gut-hook, and razor sharp “shark fin” styled “shreddr” saw. It comes complete with a fishing pole and reel (fishing line sold separately), so you can catch and clean your fish at the same time! A spaced ray skin wrapped handle will let the fish know what’s in store for them! There’s also a picatinny rail to attach flashlights or lasers (flashlights and lasers sold separately), to temporarily blind the little creatures just before you catch them. The knife also comes with a coffee grinder (coffee grinds sold separately) on the butt so you can keep awake while crawling through the weed-lined shore banks in search of tasty seafood.

Designed by I. Catchem, a member of the elite fishing group, “Pokemon Poll Packers.” This group is so secret that even the fish are unaware of their existence. That is, until they strike! Don’t be fooled by similar products, this one will keep you going while you catch the mother load!

Regards,
3G

One of the finest laughs I have had in Months!!! Spit coffee not just on my computer but all over the house. Every time I think of the RAZR I think of the Blackberry TFK and bust a gut..Thanks 3G

 

[Brian Jones]

The thread that just won't go away!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL. Ah, it's nice to have a place to go and be a kid on a playground again...must....stop....posting....here....now. Really. I am. stopping posting...here. This minute....