Good to have the final word from an obvious expert ! You say you've handled these knives but it doesn't sound like it . What specific shortcomings did you discover in use ? I just hear very generic cheap knife criticism and snobbery . I'd like to see some pics of your well used BBK's with some specifics on their failure to perform . Otherwise , talk is cheap !
Also , maybe you SHOULD take some of your precious time to actually read the thread before commenting ? Nowhere is anything said about zen or grail . I have related specific pros and cons from my experience . You just came to

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