Bad experiences with BladeGoblin

not sure of the quote you mention, but how's this:

one's integrity can be judged based on how they behave when no one is looking.


not entirely appropriate, since now we are all watching.
 
Brian Jones said:
What is that quote? ... about it being easy to hold onto your values when things are easy, but the true test of character is if you can hold to those values when things become difficult, and never abandon them...
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MORIMOTOM said:
not sure of the quote you mention, but how's this:

one's integrity can be judged based on how they behave when no one is looking.


not entirely appropriate, since now we are all watching.
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MORIMOTOM said:
or:

ya gotta know when to hold em,
know when to fold em?
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donnyh said:
BladeGoblin has no negative feedbacks in his feedback profile.

Could one of his unsatisfied customers please change that?

Newbies like me would appreciate the warning.
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Artem isn't going to do that. He just wants to leave it as a learning experience. He is the only one on this forum that I know of that has had a problem with BladeGoblin. There has been a person on another forum, dealers and a maker at a show that have all had to deal with BladeGoblin's self serving way of doing business. These are only the instances that I am 100% positive of.
 
Keith Montgomery said:
...dealers and a maker at a show that have all had to deal with BladeGoblin's self serving way of doing business. These are only the instances that I am 100% positive of.
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If any of this is documented here on BFC, perhaps you could post some links in this thread so it can all be found in one place...
 
Keith Montgomery said:
Artem isn't going to do that. He just wants to leave it as a learning experience.
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Okay, I get that, he's taking the high road and moving on, which is commendable, but it raises a question.

Do we have a responsibilty to honestly fill out feedbacks on transactions for the protection of others? To maintain the integrity of the exchange forum?

I feel like we do, although I am so new here I still have that 'new newb smell'.:)
 
donnyh said:
Okay, I get that, he's taking the high road and moving on, which is commendable, but it raises a question.

Do we have a responsibilty to honestly fill out feedbacks on transactions for the protection of others? To maintain the integrity of the exchange forum?

I feel like we do, although I am so new here I still have that 'new newb smell'.:)
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I'd say that if you're going to put in a feedback then the answer is yes, you should be nothing but honest with it. But if someone chooses not to use that part of the system then no one can make them. In a case like this, it's good that the GB&U threads can be scanned so that there is some accounting of what happened for everyone to see and judge on their own. Not everyone uses or checks both parts of the feedback system but one out of two is better than none at all.
 
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markksr said:
If any of this is documented here on BFC, perhaps you could post some links in this thread so it can all be found in one place...
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I'm sure that Neil at True North Knives would be happy to let you know about his dealings with Anthony. There is no documentation on BF about the other dealings, but I have personal emails from the people involved confirming that indeed Anthony did make promises to them that he backed out of without ever letting them know that he had changed his mind. In these other cases, Anthony never directly screwed anyone out of money, he just asked dealers to take knives off their website and put them away for him with the promise he would purchase them. He would then not bother to ever get back to them. The maker was asked by Anthony to put away a knife for him with the promise that he would pick it up before the end of the show. He didn't, so the maker lost the chance to sell the knife at the show. All this shows that the only person Anthony cares about in his dealings is Anthony.
 
donnyh said:
Okay, I get that, he's taking the high road and moving on, which is commendable, but it raises a question.

Do we have a responsibilty to honestly fill out feedbacks on transactions for the protection of others? To maintain the integrity of the exchange forum?

I feel like we do, although I am so new here I still have that 'new newb smell'.:)
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well, imho its up to the individual to post good or bad, if they dont want to post bad stuff, well, thats up to them, me, i have never had a bad deal on this forum, but if i had it would be hard for me not to, if for no other reason than to vent.

but i can also understand someone just wanting to move on and forget a bad experience too.

imho ya should post if ya are ripped off, if for no other reason than usually a theif doesnt stop with 1 person, especially if they get away with it, & ya might save another person from getting burned.

but its up to the individual in the end to do what they think is best for them.
 
Not that anyone asked, but my thought is that, at bare minimum, Anthony should pony up $100 to Artem. Would Artem prefer his original $200? I'm sure he would, and kudos to him for being willing to write off this affair as a "learning experience." However, $200 is a steep price for one lesson, and I suspect Anthony has learned something from this, too. A refund of $100 to Artem would bring some equality to the matter, what with both gentlemen then being out the same amount. Then perhaps it could be a learning experience, for both. The way I see it, Anthony has, by his own admission, sold items since this thing started two years ago...take a few bucks from each of those sales and send Artem $100.

Personally, I'd be looking for interest; two years is a long time to let this go unresolved.
 
Anthony has informed me in the past, and again today, that it is only one dealer that he has done that to. That dealer told me that he had done it to another as well, but even if Anthony is correct, that doesn't change the fact that he looks after himself at the expense of others.

riffraff said:
Not that anyone asked, but my thought is that, at bare minimum, Anthony should pony up $100 to Artem. Would Artem prefer his original $200? I'm sure he would, and kudos to him for being willing to write off this affair as a "learning experience." However, $200 is a steep price for one lesson, and I suspect Anthony has learned something from this, too. A refund of $100 to Artem would bring some equality to the matter, what with both gentlemen then being out the same amount. Then perhaps it could be a learning experience, for both. The way I see it, Anthony has, by his own admission, sold items since this thing started two years ago...take a few bucks from each of those sales and send Artem $100.
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It was recommended to Anthony earlier that he contact Artem and the two of them could work something out. He didn't do that, so I am of the belief that he decided he wasn't willing to take any of the responsibility for what happened. That doesn't appear to have changed.
 
BladeGoblin said:
I'm not playing the victiim, Mark obviously thought he could dig his heels into me, because of something that was said in whine and cheese. :rolleyes:

The fact is I've sold between 12-15 knives since this thread.

The last I'm going to say here, I've stated my reasons.
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BladeGoblin said:
I haven't done it to any dealers, don't put words in my mouth.

I will keep responding.
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Don't point out the obvious.:jerkit:

If people make false statements such as Keith is, I'm going to respond.
 
You did so do it to Neil. You can lie all you want. Would you like me to post your PM here where you yourself state that it was only one dealer? I'll be happy to.
 
Keith Montgomery said:
You did so do it to Neil. You can lie all you want. Would you like me to post your PM here where you yourself state that it was only one dealer? I'll be happy to.
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You mean this one?

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Keith we went over this before.

What dealers, plural?

You can only produce one name, Neil Ostroff.
 
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