In a friggin' nutshell !
This goes back to, "A transaction isn't complete. . . . until both parties are satisfied !"
It's obvious BladeGoblin doesn't give rats ass.
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In a friggin' nutshell !
This goes back to, "A transaction isn't complete. . . . until both parties are satisfied !"
It's obvious BladeGoblin doesn't give rats ass.
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After reading all this, what is the general consensus about shipping and customs issues?
Who pays shipping?
Who pays for insurance and who assumes the responsability for not insuring?
Who is responsible if the package gets stuck in customs?
It seems here (BF) that the seller has more of the responsability. Is there a standard?
Who pays shipping?
Who pays for insurance and who assumes the responsability for not insuring?
Who is responsible if the package gets stuck in customs?
It seems here (BF) that the seller has more of the responsability. Is there a standard?
there may be varying answers, but i do the following:
1. the buyer pays additional shipping charges. this usually is about $20.
2. the buyer pays all customs fees, and i list items for their actual value.
3. once the item has entered foreign customs, i relinquish responsibility.
4. paypal only.
5. i insure EVERYTHING, unless specifically asked not to. if no insurance is used, the buyer assumes all responsibility once the item has left my hands.
i happily ship anywhere, but the above is made clear prior to the money transfer.
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I have seen many people include the shipping charge if it is being shipped CONUS, but if shipped internationally the buyer pays shipping. The foreign buyer also pays insurance, but it is up to the seller to get insurance unless requested not to do so by the buyer. If something is seized by Customs, arrangements can usually be made for the item to be returned to the shipper. That is if the item is prohibited. If the item is illegal, it will be confiscated.
My recommendation would be to tell a foreign buyer that once you have shipped the package the only thing you will only be responsible for filing an insurance claim if the knife doesn't get to the buyer, or if it is damaged. Let the buyer know that you will only provide a refund if the insurance claim is okayed by the shipping company. That way the buyer knows in advance that you will not accept any personal responsibility for loss or damage that may occur, and he/she can then decide if they want to accept all the risk. This all has to be made very clear to the buyer in advance.
My recommendation would be to tell a foreign buyer that once you have shipped the package the only thing you will only be responsible for filing an insurance claim if the knife doesn't get to the buyer, or if it is damaged. Let the buyer know that you will only provide a refund if the insurance claim is okayed by the shipping company. That way the buyer knows in advance that you will not accept any personal responsibility for loss or damage that may occur, and he/she can then decide if they want to accept all the risk. This all has to be made very clear to the buyer in advance.
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I know when I sell a knife it is MY responsibility to get it to the person who purchased it.
If the delivery system screws up, it is still my responsibility to unscrew it or issue a refund.
If the delivery system screws up, it is still my responsibility to unscrew it or issue a refund.
I can't completely knock you Anthony as I used to think something along those lines too. I used to throw in CONUS shipping for free but left it up to the buyer as to whether or not I'd be getting Insurance and if not I'm not responsible for it. Phillip at The Knife Cellar set me straight on it when he told me to ship whatever way I was comfortable as long as it made it there. And if it didn't make it I was responsible for it. I thought that was asinine at first but after thinking about it for a while I realized he was right.
The problem with your deal Anthony is a total lack of comms on your side and you should have made it right a long time ago. You now have a black cloud hanging over your head for under $200 in knives. When you usually trade in higher dollar stuff. I guess in the end it all depends on how much you're willing to pay for your integrity. I stand by my statement of I wouldn't deal with you until this is resolved, which is sad because we have dealt in the past satisfactorily.
I do the same, but with several exceptions. . . . .
3. once the item has entered foreign customs, i relinquish responsibility, and the buyer agrees to this arrangement prior to closing the deal or the sale is nixed.
4. Don't do PayPal
These days, when I toss something on the block. . . . .I don't ship out of CONUS.
ETA: I do my homework on shipping issues. . . .before. . . . .I finalize the transaction. Here's the reasoning behind the homework. . . . .
HDCharlie said:
I do the same, but with several exceptions. . . . .
3. once the item has entered foreign customs, i relinquish responsibility, and the buyer agrees to this arrangement prior to closing the deal or the sale is nixed.
4. Don't do PayPal
These days, when I toss something on the block. . . . .I don't ship out of CONUS.
ETA: I do my homework on shipping issues. . . .before. . . . .I finalize the transaction. Here's the reasoning behind the homework. . . . .
in general, i use usps global priority. pricey, but ive never had an item go missing or arrive damaged.
if some other method is requested, i will honor that, but assume no responsibility.
i must add, i have shipped many many times outside the conus, and never had a package go missing. it has taken several weeks to finally get there a couple times, but that was due to foreign customs.
screwed up recently, and sent a package to Brazil, regular mail, no tracking number. Guess what, if the package never made it, I was SOL.
This was for a repair, BTW, not a sale, but the results would have been the same. It was my screw up.
Anthony, you are not a bad guy, but you should man up, eat the loss, and return the monies to the injured party. He should not have to eat it because you screwed up.
It costs something to learn, either money, time, or goods.
I also don't ship out of the country, but that is a "before the deal gets done" issue to declare.
Best Regards,
STeven Garsson
This was for a repair, BTW, not a sale, but the results would have been the same. It was my screw up.
Anthony, you are not a bad guy, but you should man up, eat the loss, and return the monies to the injured party. He should not have to eat it because you screwed up.
It costs something to learn, either money, time, or goods.
I also don't ship out of the country, but that is a "before the deal gets done" issue to declare.
Best Regards,
STeven Garsson
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THis has been mentioned before in another thread, but it's a nagging question: Why just CONUS? All the shipping companies treat Alaska and Hawaii the same as CONUS. Especially USPS.
Anthony, I'm another who would have made this right, regardless of the 'facts'. It's the cost of learning.
Coop
Anthony, I'm another who would have made this right, regardless of the 'facts'. It's the cost of learning.
Coop
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That is BS. Most sharp objects are not illegal to import into Russia. Where did you get that information?
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Keith, you are correct - I ship knives (pointy and very sharp) in all shapes and sizes to the Russian Federation all the time.
This is just more BS and dancing from Anthony- he is trying to justify his actions.
I recall Anthony's claim that the postal employee told him that a customs form was not required when he (allegedly) sent the package to Artem.
This friends, is where the rub is.
Neil
I live in Hawaii and never had a problem with recieving anything shipped within the US (except recently from Savson). I recently recieved a merchandise shipped from Massachucettes (sp?) and it was ordered on Sunday and it arrived on Thursday via USPS first class mail. Hawaii is not a foreign country. Anything shipped via the USPS cost the same as long as it is shipped within the US whether it is from New York to New Jersey or from New York to Hawaii. But it does cost more to ship to Hawaii via UPS or Fed Ex.For me, Alaska and Hawaii are foreign countries, but are treated as part of the US.
That makes two of us. . . .at least when I did move edged object OCONUS. We can't be the only two with such USPS Global Priority success.
probably not. ive found usps to be the fastest and most reliable, acutally 100% reliable.
THis has been mentioned before in another thread, but it's a nagging question: Why just CONUS? All the shipping companies treat Alaska and Hawaii the same as CONUS. Especially USPS.
Anthony, I'm another who would have made this right, regardless of the 'facts'. It's the cost of learning.
Coop
id guess it is either from a bad experience or just to avoid any additional hassle. alaska and hawaii have been easy for me. i dont recall any extra charges.
I just sent a BM 805 to Russia last month. Global Priority, it get automatically insured, and has a tracking number. It got there just fine and within 5 days.
And I sure as hell had to fill out a customs claim, in fact it ended up being 3 forms.
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BladeGoblin likes to blame everyone except himself for what went wrong. He is trying to come up with excuses for why he feels justified in what he has done. At least he's got himself convinced.
