Balls_tothe_Walls (Heath Helton) is a scammer

Jsega51 Jsega51

- I didn't sign up here to write in this thread, just an fyi. Nor did Heath "hide" on Reddit, he's been our friend and community member for years. We are working on compiling hard evidence with personal info redacted so we can bring that to you all instead of he-said she-said. Heath must work with his legal council to find out what we can and can't share. Time to make this happen is appreciated.

I would like to offer some clarity to the story as well, though I understand you all don't exactly trust me and I can't yet physically prove the following:

Heath contested something on his Paypal which triggered an account-wide reaction. Because of one transaction issue, Paypal flagged every transaction he's had for a year. Considering he participates in raffles and such, you can only imagine that this added up to hundreds of small charges (among full charges for whole knife purchases, etc). That's the first part of the problem. Heath had to manually go through and approve each and every transaction. Once this was completed, Paypal returned the locked funds to Heath's bank account. HERE'S where the real problem started, and where people started getting upset. When the success against Paypal occurred, all those effected got a letter stating the money had been returned to Heath's account. This would have been the fine-and-dandy end to the chaos, save for a new problem. Heath had moved and switched banks (unrelated) around a similar time. And real quick, to anyone saying he moved *because* of this event, that's just silly. A move across half the country with your whole family into a home is not something you do over the weekend haha. Anyway, so the issue is that Paypal deposited the funds into an account that Heath no longer has. IE: there's a bank account with all y'alls money in it that Heath can't access. At this current stage, Heath is working with legal council to take action against the bank to obtain access to the account.

In the meantime, Heath has been doing his best to restore funds to those effected out of his own pocket. We've let him in to run raffles to help generate those funds. I have also considered a gofundme to help, but that has not yet occurred.

In regards to those who say they've reached out to Heath to no avail. In a few instances, I reached out directly, and was informed that certain people have been aggressive, threatening, or rude, and he has pushed those people to the bottom of his priority list. He has restored funds to multiple people. If you're not one of them then A: He is trying but just can't afford your lump sum at this time, B: He's overwhelmed right now as he works 90+ hours a week to provide for his family in their new home while also coping with this situation and simply hasn't gotten around to replying to you yet, or C: You were one of the people leaving death threats on his voicemail and as far as he's concerned, you can go to hell.

I think all of the above is fairly reasonable. I understand that if you were affected and you came here and read all of this thread, you'd be quick to pick up the next pitchfork. I get that. Let us have some more time to provide proof. Thank you.

Thank you for taking the time to report Heath's latest revision of what happened.

There are a few major problems with this story, however, even if portions of it prove to be true.

1. Nothing prevented him from communicating these "facts" to the involved parties. He chose instead to go silent, resulting in his ban here.

2. In his own account you relayed here, he was fully aware that the sellers of the property in question were not paid. Nothing prevented him from returning the knives to the sellers.

3. Instead of returning the knives or contacting the sellers, he moves his game to Reddit and proceeds to sell property for which he has not paid, and therefore no legal claim.


That much alone is enough to remove the "VICTIM" tag from Mr Helton. His actions are immoral at best and criminal at worst.
That sums up my evaluation of the current situation.
Ymmv.
 
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bonky bonky

1. As far as I'm made aware, communication lines were open to most, but keep in mind this is hundreds of people. After a while, people aren't looking for an explanation, they just want money/knife. Talk is cheap.

2. If you choose his narrative, then you must understand two things -- sometimes you're just not in the financial situation to "make it right", especially if the funds were never returned to you. And if you know the knife game well, which I'm sure you do, knives move from hand to hand quickly. "Give me my knife back" does not work if you do not have the knife, in which case you would ask "give me my money back", then which -- see aforementioned.

3. Read following

While I do agree with your worst case inclusion, yes it's criminal at worse, but "careless and unlucky" at best.

Some more clarification, as I'm just some reddit guy, just to bring some overarching vision to Heath's character:

All things considered, this was ultimately one event. I'm sure a lot of you have had encounters with Heath before where has been nothing but forthcoming. Then this paypal thing went down. It's a single event that yes he did fuck up on, and it's an event that affects hundreds of people across many platforms, but ultimately, it's one single source. He's never shown any signs of any wrongdoing neither before NOR after. Yes it sucks that the one time he fucked it up, it screwed over a bunch of people, but he doesn't have a history of scamming anybody.

Second, if you were one of the affected (like I was), odds are you paypal disputes are not for the full amount of the transaction. It's for some arbitrary partial dispute. This automatically makes me think it was an automated event, not one he initiated.

Additionally, a lot of you have complaints about communication. If you recall, he did try and communicate with you guys, and a lot of you privately, but you harassed him, attacked him, doxxed him, etc... all that mattered to you guys was that you were made right. Talk is cheap, you wanted the money and/or the knife back. And it's understandable to some degree.

reddit has a zero tolerance TOS for doxxing, something which is clearly not frowned upon here. You've publicly posted many personal details regarding the dude, called his work, threatened his family, wife and kids, over a couple of bucks. Yes, maybe he's an asshole, but what does that make you? He's been quoted as being threatened with "bush justice", and his address seems to be stalked physically at this point. Some of you have remained civil, and I'm sure you're at the top of the list to be righted, even if it means out of pocket. Heath has owed me about $1100 following the dispute and so far has paid me back ~$800 "out of pocket" (whether you believe that is up to you), and has been in touch regularly. There are numerous other members who've already received full/partial refunds/knives/comped spots etc. But hey let's continue with the whole "he's disappeared for good" narrative.

And then there's this post: https://www.instagram.com/p/BfupEgdl0TU/?taken-by=edcthieves

In the comments, you can see an irate guy who's dealt with Heath, and this is his story:
  • knivesasahobbyStay far away. Traded my Reate Starboy for his Laconico Lancer. Perfect condition Starboy, claimed good Lancer. Got the Lancer
  • knivesasahobbyAnd it was rusty EVERYWHERE. Deep, pitted rust. Insanely sticky lock. Pivot came loose after just a few openings. After spending some time cleaning off the rust, I decided I wanted to trade back. The whole time, he acted surprised and innocent. Got the Starboy back and it looked like it been rubbed down with some kind of chemical because the blade finish looked weird. He said he wanted to buy it, I was excited because I wanted it gond
  • knivesasahobbyDelayed for a few days saying he needed to gather money, then when he was ready, I told him I wanted a USPS MO (I knew he had history of scamming and charging back) and after that he got all weird and suddenly couldn't buy right away because his "PayPal is seperate from other funds" the fuck? So after a few more days of bearing around the Bush he kept acting weird and putting it off, and eventually refused. Guess I dodged a bullet, if I let him pay PayPal I would lose the knife and the money. Pretty funny that it got weird when I wanted MO.
Yes, Heath ended up raffling this Lancer on reddit, and I've reached out to the winner (and current owner) to confirm the condition of the knife: he says it's like new, no rust, no lock stick of any kind -- he couldn't be happier with it. You can actually see the video he posted of it the day he received it: https://www.instagram.com/p/BeWNBvlnnFp/?taken-by=knivesasahobby

That look rusted to shit to you?

The "chemical" used to wipe was rubbing alcohol btw. And a pivot that gradually loosens when you flip it a few times? "Help, I need an adult." So I'm not sure what kind of agenda this "knivesasahobby" had against Heath, but something stinks. Sounds like buyer's remorse.

Now put yourself in the shoes of a buyer. You offer to paypal and buy out his knife. Seller agrees to wait for you to get funds, you tell him you have the money ready. He says he wants money order instead, you send first and he'll ship when it's received and clear (literally treating you like a criminal), who the hell would go through with this deal? That's the sketchest thing I've ever heard.

Moreover, if Heath were a scammer, why the hell would have have literally knife in hand, then proceed to return the knife back? What kind of scam involves the scammer paying money out of his own pocket to ship the item he supposedly just scammed?

Anyway, all of this points to one thing -- Heath seems like a genuine character, there's definitely some cloudiness around the whole banking situation, to which we've asked him to provide further, hard evidence that would put him in the clear. He's agreed to it and is working out something with his legal team to see what he is even legally allowed to disclose at this point. He's been active in the knife community for well over 4 years, and not a hitch til this one thing. Despite that, his further transactions all seem to be extremely smooth. We've been monitoring his activity closely to make sure all new owners are completely satisfied with his services... and they have been.

At this point, I'm just as helpless as the rest of you with regards to getting the rest of my money back. The only way is to believe in humanity that he's legitimately a good dude. I could go the alternative route and find him and threaten him in person, but how's that working out for you guys?

FWIW: He has been banned from reddit immediately following this incident and has only had "partial" participation reinstated very recently. His raffles are run with the premise of proceeds of funds going directly into the pockets of the effected (that includes you lot). We're taking steps to protect our members and give him a chance to clear his name, maybe you guys should try something similar? But then again, I mean this circlejerk thread is working SO well clearly, so maybe we're doing something wrong.

If banking and the financial system were all as simple black and white as you guys make it, then bitcoins and cryptocurrency would be a resounding failure.
 
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bonky bonky

1. As far as I'm made aware, communication lines were open to most, but keep in mind this is hundreds of people. After a while, people aren't looking for an explanation, they just want money/knife. Talk is cheap.

2. If you choose his narrative, then you must understand two things -- sometimes you're just not in the financial situation to "make it right", especially if the funds were never returned to you. And if you know the knife game well, which I'm sure you do, knives move from hand to hand quickly. "Give me my knife back" does not work if you do not have the knife, in which case you would ask "give me my money back", then which -- see aforementioned.

3. Read following

While I do agree with your worst case inclusion, yes it's criminal at worse, but "careless and unlucky" at best.

Some more clarification, as I'm just some reddit guy, just to bring some overarching vision to Heath's character:

All things considered, this was ultimately one event. I'm sure a lot of you have had encounters with Heath before where has been nothing but forthcoming. Then this paypal thing went down. It's a single event that yes he did fuck up on, and it's an event that affects hundreds of people across many platforms, but ultimately, it's one single source. He's never shown any signs of any wrongdoing neither before NOR after. Yes it sucks that the one time he fucked it up, it screwed over a bunch of people, but he doesn't have a history of scamming anybody.

He darned sure does now.

Go back and read his only contributions to this thread. He stated that he would come back to explain and would provide updates to the affected members.

He did neither, not even privately to forum moderators.

He could/should have returned the knives as soon as he realized that he couldn't pay for them. He didn't do that either.

Save your long explanation and answer me this: why is he continuing to sell knives for which he hasn't paid rather than returning them?


Why you defend this behavior is beyond me. You're certainly not convincing me that Mr Helton is a victim or an honorable man. His actions clearly show that he is neither.
 
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I provided an explanation because people asked for an explanation. And your reply to the explanation is "save the explanation, tell him to return the knives and money"?
 
bonky bonky

1. As far as I'm made aware, communication lines were open to most, but keep in mind this is hundreds of people. After a while, people aren't looking for an explanation, they just want money/knife. Talk is cheap.

2. If you choose his narrative, then you must understand two things -- sometimes you're just not in the financial situation to "make it right", especially if the funds were never returned to you. And if you know the knife game well, which I'm sure you do, knives move from hand to hand quickly. "Give me my knife back" does not work if you do not have the knife, in which case you would ask "give me my money back", then which -- see aforementioned.

3. Read following

While I do agree with your worst case inclusion, yes it's criminal at worse, but "careless and unlucky" at best.

Some more clarification, as I'm just some reddit guy, just to bring some overarching vision to Heath's character:

All things considered, this was ultimately one event. I'm sure a lot of you have had encounters with Heath before where has been nothing but forthcoming. Then this paypal thing went down. It's a single event that yes he did fuck up on, and it's an event that affects hundreds of people across many platforms, but ultimately, it's one single source. He's never shown any signs of any wrongdoing neither before NOR after. Yes it sucks that the one time he fucked it up, it screwed over a bunch of people, but he doesn't have a history of scamming anybody.

Second, if you were one of the affected (like I was), odds are you paypal disputes are not for the full amount of the transaction. It's for some arbitrary partial dispute. This automatically makes me think it was an automated event, not one he initiated.

Additionally, a lot of you have complaints about communication. If you recall, he did try and communicate with you guys, and a lot of you privately, but you harassed him, attacked him, doxxed him, etc... all that mattered to you guys was that you were made right. Talk is cheap, you wanted the money and/or the knife back. And it's understandable to some degree.

reddit has a zero tolerance TOS for doxxing, something which is clearly not frowned upon here. You've publicly posted many personal details regarding the dude, called his work, threatened his family, wife and kids, over a couple of bucks. Yes, maybe he's an asshole, but what does that make you? He's been quoted as being threatened with "bush justice", and his address seems to be stalked physically at this point. Some of you have remained civil, and I'm sure you're at the top of the list to be righted, even if it means out of pocket. Heath has owed me about $1100 following the dispute and so far has paid me back ~$800 "out of pocket" (whether you believe that is up to you), and has been in touch regularly. There are numerous other members who've already received full/partial refunds/knives/comped spots etc. But hey let's continue with the whole "he's disappeared for good" narrative.

And then there's this post: https://www.instagram.com/p/BfupEgdl0TU/?taken-by=edcthieves

In the comments, you can see an irate guy who's dealt with Heath, and this is his story:
  • knivesasahobbyStay far away. Traded my Reate Starboy for his Laconico Lancer. Perfect condition Starboy, claimed good Lancer. Got the Lancer
  • knivesasahobbyAnd it was rusty EVERYWHERE. Deep, pitted rust. Insanely sticky lock. Pivot came loose after just a few openings. After spending some time cleaning off the rust, I decided I wanted to trade back. The whole time, he acted surprised and innocent. Got the Starboy back and it looked like it been rubbed down with some kind of chemical because the blade finish looked weird. He said he wanted to buy it, I was excited because I wanted it gond
  • knivesasahobbyDelayed for a few days saying he needed to gather money, then when he was ready, I told him I wanted a USPS MO (I knew he had history of scamming and charging back) and after that he got all weird and suddenly couldn't buy right away because his "PayPal is seperate from other funds" the fuck? So after a few more days of bearing around the Bush he kept acting weird and putting it off, and eventually refused. Guess I dodged a bullet, if I let him pay PayPal I would lose the knife and the money. Pretty funny that it got weird when I wanted MO.
Yes, Heath ended up raffling this Lancer on reddit, and I've reached out to the winner (and current owner) to confirm the condition of the knife: he says it's like new, no rust, no lock stick of any kind -- he couldn't be happier with it. So I'm not sure what kind of agenda this "knivesasahobby" had against Heath, but something stinks. Sounds like buyer's remorse. You can actually see the video he posted of it the day he received it: https://www.instagram.com/p/BeWNBvlnnFp/?taken-by=knivesasahobby

That look rusted to shit to you?

The "chemical" used to wipe was rubbing alcohol btw. And a pivot that gradually loosens when you flip it a few times? "Help, I need an adult."

Now put yourself in the shoes of a buyer. You offer to paypal and buy out his knife. Seller agrees to wait for you to get funds, you tell him you have the money ready. He says he wants money order instead, you send first and he'll ship when it's received and clear (literally treating you like a criminal), who the hell would go through with this deal? That's the sketchest thing I've ever heard.

Moreover, if Heath were a scammer, why the hell would have have literally knife in hand, then proceed to return the knife back? What kind of scam involves the scammer paying money out of his own pocket to ship the item he supposedly just scammed?

Anyway, all of this points to one thing -- Heath seems like a genuine character, there's definitely some cloudiness around the whole banking situation, to which we've asked him to provide further, hard evidence that would put him in the clear. He's agreed to it and is working out something with his legal team to see what he is even legally allowed to disclose at this point. He's been active in the knife community for well over 4 years, and not a hitch til this one thing. Despite that, his further transactions all seem to be extremely smooth. We've been monitoring his activity closely to make sure all new owners are completely satisfied with his services... and they have been.

At this point, I'm just as helpless as the rest of you with regards to getting the rest of my money back. The only way is to believe in humanity that he's legitimately a good dude. I could go the alternative route and find him and threaten him in person, but how's that working out for you guys?

FWIW: He has been banned from reddit immediately following this incident and has only had "partial" participation reinstated very recently. His raffles are run with the premise of proceeds of funds going directly into the pockets of the effected (that includes you lot). We're taking steps to protect our members and give him a chance to clear his name, maybe you guys should try something similar? But then again, I mean this circlejerk thread is working SO well clearly, so maybe we're doing something wrong.

If banking and the financial system were all as simple black and white as you guys make it, then bitcoins and cryptocurrency would be a resounding failure.

I’m sure the truth is somewhere in all of this... but it’s still not clear, at least to me. I’m just going to leave you with one last thing to consider. He originally said someone stole his credit card # and made numerous transactions that totaled over $18,000. The story now is he contested one transaction on PayPal, that triggered every payment he made for a year to be reveresed.

Before you start throwing shade on the financial system or what others believe or not believe, keep in mind that the story changes and the source is inconsistent at best.
 
I provided an explanation because people asked for an explanation. And your reply to the explanation is "save the explanation, tell him to return the knives and money"?
No, actually my reply was:

" Save your long explanation and answer me this: why is he continuing to sell knives for which he hasn't paid rather than returning them?"

So why is he continuing to sell property for which he has not paid?
 
Before you start throwing shade on the financial system or what other believe or not believe, keep in mind that the story changes and the source is inconsistent at best.

Yes we've already reached out to him to ask for hard evidence that he can publicly share, either something from the bank, paypal, lawyer, what have you. He said he is working with his lawyer to come up with something that he is able to publicly disclose. It's all anecdotal evidence right now from all sides, he-said she-said.

Whether this comes to fruition is up in the air, but if there's sufficient evidence that his narrative makes sense, then there's no reason for him to be banned in our community. If not, then a reinstated ban is not out of the question.

At the end of the day, what we are looking for currently are a continued stream of confirmation from members that Heath is doing *something* regularly to comp members with each raffle.

bonky bonky I don't think you quite understand. If his story holds true, then he HAS paid for them. What you seem to want is that he pay for them again.
 
Seems like this thread is due for a lock and maybe a pin till Heath gets the cuffs slapped on?

Lots of static from his posse to keep scam alive but not much resolution for the people he stole from.

Leopards don't change their spots. Once a thief; always a thief. No one coming here to make their very first posts in this thread to try and white night this dirtbag will change the facts.

What's next? He gave his login info and passwords to his nephew and that guy did the crime?
 
Yes we've already reached out to him to ask for hard evidence that he can publicly share, either something from the bank, paypal, lawyer, what have you. He said he is working with his lawyer to come up with something that he is able to publicly disclose. It's all anecdotal evidence right now from all sides, he-said she-said.

Whether this comes to fruition is up in the air, but if there's sufficient evidence that his narrative makes sense, then there's no reason for him to be banned in our community. If not, then a reinstated ban is not out of the question.

At the end of the day, what we are looking for currently are a continued stream of confirmation from members that Heath is doing *something* regularly to comp members with each raffle.

bonky bonky I don't think you quite understand. If his story holds true, then he HAS paid for them. What you seem to want is that he pay for them again.
I understand perfectly.

One side of the financial transaction never received what was agreed upon: the Sellers.

The other side of the transaction has possession of or the means to control both the property and the money.

I ask again:

Why is Heath Helton continuing to sell property for which he has not paid rather than returning it?
 
You know I'm all for locks, cuffs, whatever. But the only thing we're trying to do is look for ways to somehow return money to the pockets to those affected. As far as I'm concerned, we're on the same team taking a two-pronged approach.

1. So far you guys have clearly taken care of the "threaten him and go after his wife and kids" route, so you guys do that. Maybe it works and we all get our money back.

2. We've (mostly) remained civil, and as a result at least some people are starting to show signs of getting something in return for that. It's small, and maybe some of you already reaped the results of what we've done, who knows. Ultimate reddit explicitly prevents us from doing exactly what you guys have taken action to do, so maybe we're lucky to have you guys.

If name-calling gets you somewhere, kudos to you. All we're after is results. Maybe you guys can get him locked up and sue him for charges, hey it's win-win for us anyway.

At the end of the day, if Heath is a scammer with no intent of returning your money, calling him names, stalking his home, et cetera (pardon my latin, I think I used it correctly this time) hasn't been very successful. At the very least we're able to recover "some funds" from this "god damn liar and thief" through our method. We're just scamming the scammer right?
 
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Just your friendly neighborhood banker here again. I can, again, only speak to the policies of the bank for which I work, but, if a transaction were returned to a closed account, the money would be rebound back to PayPal and they would either provide a refund via cashiers check or ACH deposit. If the money actually hit said “closed” account-which would only be possible while said closed account is in a “pending close” status-then the account would remain in a “pending close” status until the individual could step into a branch and retrieve the funds or provide a bank-by-mail request for a cashier’s check and an account closure. Returning funds to a closed account is not something that is possible and those funds would be sent back to PayPal for them to redistribute.

If Heath’s PayPal was hacked then why did he initially point to his credit card, claim the thieves took 18k, then say he was working with his bank? These things do not match up. As a banker, I would instruct a customer to reach out to authorities at this point. As a person with a mass of knowledge that comes from 6 years in banking, this still seems like a scam to me.
 
There is no way that money was deposited in a closed account......period.
R redditguy you can post more novels if you wish, but what you should be doing is reading this entire thread. Not jumping in at the end of it.
How can anyone believe the bank is holding his money, Pay Pal screwed up AND the credit card company is screwing poor Heath.
Maybe you got lucky with him. This does nothing for the many who haven’t. To defend a thief, to the respected members here who’ve been robbed, is nauseating.
Go back to reddit and keep dealing with your friend.....you’ll be back here as soon as he screws you.

Is good ole Heath on double secret probation over there now??? And is that our fault too??
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I’m glad others responded before I could get here because pretty much every question I had was posted.

If there was a logical explanation to all of this, it would have came out at the beginning, from Heath. Funny that the “facts of the situation” keep changing and evolving to elude the actual reason this happened.
 
You know I'm all for locks, cuffs, whatever. But the only thing we're trying to do is look for ways to somehow return money to the pockets to those affected. As far as I'm concerned, we're on the same team taking a two-pronged approach.

1. So far you guys have clearly taken care of the "threaten him and go after his wife and kids" route, so you guys do that. Maybe it works and we all get our money back.poorly choss

It is not the forum as a whole or majority threatening Heath with anything but exposure &/or advising legal action or his family at all. Certainly with so many affected with financial hardship(made worse due to the delayed reaction chargebacks and fees) there could be a few hotheads(very few I would guess) that could advise poorly and or take verbal action, but don't refer to us all as such.
 
Here's a copy of an email that Heath sent to a forum member a little over a month ago... anyone that deals with him or has any sympathy for him deserves what they get.


“Hello ****,

I'm sure you're still wondering where the funds are. And indeed, they'll be in route soon enough. Yet not until the 90 days have made its rounds. See, most people have received their refunds (because they weren't little assholes, nor cried about it). And many more are receiving daily now. But since there was just so much slander onto my name on your end, you will most certainly also be getting served some paperwork, by my lawyers as well. Since I'm such an "inferior", oh and also an "asshole.". Hope this doesn't rain too much on your parade, as in the end, you'll still receive your money! You see, id have loved to handle this 1:1, however, due to the bladeforums thread, along with the threats to myself and my job (funnily enough, as I own majority of my business, so that all did absolutely nothing), my lawyers advised me against responding to you lot. Also, feel free to let them know as well. Because now, a couple of the BF moderators will be tied up in my court case also. Win-win as I see it. Anyhow, "doc", I'll be seeing you soon, I'm certain. Have a blessed day,

- Heath.”
 
I’m glad others responded before I could get here because pretty much every question I had was posted.

If there was a logical explanation to all of this, it would have came out at the beginning, from Heath. Funny that the “facts of the situation” keep changing and evolving to elude the actual reason this happened.
It's really not that surprising. His supporters have already stated that Mr Helton is prioritizing their members for reimbursement, by way of selling knives.

Sounds a lot like a Ponzi scheme to me, with Heath Helton compensating members of the one platform that facilitates his behavior, Reddit.

I personally don't believe that funds are being held in a closed bank account. That being said, Mr Helton's personal dealings with any financial institution is his own business and responsibility.

Attempting to shift the bank excuse onto the sellers, however, is bs. Any property in his possession should be returned, period.
 
bonky bonky I don't think you quite understand. If his story holds true, then he HAS paid for them. What you seem to want is that he pay for them again.
This is real simple. He has not paid for them if the seller does not have the money, which they don't. I'm not sure why this is so hard to understand. Refund the money or knife. This is all on him.

In this case heath needs to be returning knives. If he no longer has them, then yes, he needs to pay for them twice and go after the institution he claims is holding the money. This is very similar to if a buyer doesn't receive a knife they paid for, the seller refunds the money and goes after the insurance.

The fact that your community is letting him sell, er... raffle knives is a bit despicable. I wonder where he got those knives?

Of course, I doubt anything heath has ever said in this situation has ever been true so this is all a moot argument. He is a scammer. Our community got rid of the scum while yours continues to let him scam.
 
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