bear grylls stuff fad or functional?

The Gerber LMF 2, the Prodigy, and the Strongarm are all pretty tough. I don't suggesting batoning with the LMF 2 though, its not designed for that and you will bust out the insert. Now some people on here will rage at my words and say I'm full of it and thats fine, but these Three blades are all made in their Portland Oregon factory and are US made which explains the quality. Their new Gator Premium is made of S30V and looks like a solid hunter's companion.
 
knives_in_nature said:
I love my Bear Grylls ultimate pro and I have very high end knives..
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I hear it takes a wicked edge and holds it. Honestly I'd rather by a cheaper knife with a good warranty and beat it up then blow 350 bucks on a Fallkniven A1 Pro and abuse it. I think I would just look at that knife all day and drool lol!
 
Thomas Linton said:
Let me teach you how to take care of yourself in the wilderness.
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For me:watching Bear Grylls "commercial survival tips" are equal to "definite guide - How to kill yourself as fast as possible in wilderness ":):):)

But to stay on topic of these Gerber knives - maybe good present for young boy,after reading so much negative reports on it,but they aren't that expensive, to have any headache if they broke,somewhere on barbecue or camping trip. wouldn't trust them with any long haul wilderness trips far away.
 
The BG show is being swallowed hook, line and sinker by the ignorant couch potato pseudo-ninja crowd, who BTW will senselessly buy into the cheapo 'tools' associated with the clownish show.
As for BGs creds, they are pretty much non-existing. The aforementioned crowd is of course in awe.
As there are a vast majority of stupid people in the world and as these vacuous shows are legion, I see no end to stupid TV any time soon. BG dont care - he is laughing all the way to the bank.

Before BG Gerber 'carp' knives, there was a BG Bayley knife. As few couch potato ninjas in the demographic for the BG show (10-25) could afford a Bayley knife, BG shifted to Gerber cheapo knives. These of course sell like hotcakes.

The Bayley knife is a super quality knife and beautiful to boot IMO.

Bayley dont care either - I believe he closes his book from time to time, as these beautiful knives cant be made fast enough.....as opposed to the Gerber BG pot metal.
 
Charlie_K said:
No argument that the BG Pro knife is superior to the rest of the models in the BG lineup, excluding the small hatchet. But for the price point involved, the BK2 and BK10 are still the superior blades. American made, quality steel, lifetime warranty, only a few dollars more expensive. Depending on where you get it, the Beckers might even be cheaper.
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I personally LOVE Becker Knife and Tool. I bought my kid a Becker BK2 for Christmas, then went even further and got him the micarta scales to replace the grivory. Needless to say he has a lifelong companion and a trusted blade that will last him forever. That said, I think the price on Amazon for the Ultimate Pro went down to 58 bucks. Do keep in mind guys that sometimes Carbon Steel is not always the best choice for example, if you are doung anything in a very humid area or water or winter releated where there is alot of dampness, sometimes stainless might be a better option. Honestly BG aside the Ultimate Pro is a decent knife and performs well but that first knife with the 7cr17mov sucks pretty hard and is WAY to soft for any real survival situation. You can just look at that knife and it will go dull lol!
 
Use a paracord knife for quite a while, great knife, just not as good in keeping a sharp edge. So carrying a stone is advised
 
marcinek said:
I'm curious to know what about Rob Bayley's work to you makes that price unjustified? What are all the people on backlog (so large that he has stopped taking orders) missing?
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To each his own I guess but, average steel, terrible blade geometry(low sabre grind), awefull serrations all for $2k? All because of some former SAS guy uses it in a TV show. Sure, it is about the show, but there is nothing in that knife that makes it worth $2k, Sorry. I can find a ton of american knife makers that will make a much better knife than that for less than a quarter the cost. What justifies that ridiculous price to you?
 
FortyTwoBlades said:
I think if they made the BG line just a little bit better and sold it a little bit cheaper it'd be some pretty serious product for the most part. Product that caters to the entry-level masses, still, but contenders within that market even for more informed beginners.
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It dosen't really matter how well made it is to be honest, because let say the BG Pro was made of S30V or 1095, people would still bash it because thats the popular thing to do, because they hate Bear Grylls, and because Gerber had a major recall on their first Ultimate Knife that folks will not let up about. 98% of the people bashing don't even use his stuff. I'm not saying its top tier gear cause its not, its made low cost for the masses to get people intrested in going outside and being active. His BG Pro knife I hear is actually pretty good, but most folks on this forum would never test it, and if they did they wouldn't admit using it cause its not the popular thing to do. Its not about being objective at this point, its all about spreading hate and false information.When someone ask us about a blade, if you have an opinion thats fine, but he asked about a certain knife so the question is if you haven't used it, then why say " Gerber Sucks" when it adds nothing to the discussion? Now if you have it or a friend does and you have played with it, thats the type of information we need to share, the truth. Sorry for the long rant but some of these comments are quite ridiculous. This is Blade Forums people not Hate Forums, lets stay on target please.
 
marcinek said:
I didn't say whether I thought it was justified or not. I was asking the poster why he felt it was so outrageous, since he brought it up.
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Ahh, got it. He was responding to my post. Which is why I answered.

Survival Solutions, just because someone does not like that show isn't enough a reason to dislike a knife. If the knife is of good quality, who cares, what fool used it. For example, I don't know anything about the small gerber grylls knife so can't comment on it's quality. Gerber does make some decent knives. If Bear Grylls carried a quality knife, I am sure many in here would not have beef with it, regardless of what they think of the man or the show.
 
Cobalt said:
To each his own I guess but, average steel, terrible blade geometry(low sabre grind), awefull serrations all for $2k? All because of some former SAS guy uses it in a TV show. Sure, it is about the show, but there is nothing in that knife that makes it worth $2k, Sorry. I can find a ton of american knife makers that will make a much better knife than that for less than a quarter the cost. What justifies that ridiculous price to you?
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Some are into Busse, some are into Randalls, Chavez or Bayley or what ever ad nauseam. Cant we agree, that a lot of nice quality knives cost a lot of money and they are worth what some people here are willing to pay (one could almost mistake this for a blade forum full of people interested in quality knives:)).

No, you dont need to defend Busse knives - I like some Busse/Bussekin products and there are several, that Id like to own.

No, I dont own a Bayley knife and have no vested interest in defending his knives, but they sure are nice knives IMO.
 
BladeScout said:
Some are into Busse, some are into Randalls, Chavez or Bayley or what ever ad nauseam. Cant we agree, that a lot of nice quality knives cost a lot of money and they are worth what some people here are willing to pay (one could almost mistake this for a blade forum full of people interested in quality knives:)).

No, you dont need to defend Busse knives - I like some Busse/Bussekin products and there are several, that Id like to own.

No, I dont own a Bayley knife and have no vested interest in defending his knives, but they sure are nice knives IMO.
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There is maybe a few knives that I would consider paying $1500 or more for. Once a fixed blade of that size gets to $1k, I have to see it's worth. What is it about it that makes it worth it. It's certainly not performance. It certainly is not art work. If people are buying it because it is a Bear Grylls show knife, than fine I get it. I have just never been one to buy something because it was in some show and certainly not pay a ridiculous amount for it because it was in a show. This knife isn't even made from a hard use steel. But at the end of the day, to each his own.
 
Cobalt said:
There is maybe a few knives that I would consider paying $1500 or more for. Once a fixed blade of that size gets to $1k, I have to see it's worth. What is it about it that makes it worth it.
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Cobalt said:
I have just never been one to buy something because it was in some show and certainly not pay a ridiculous amount for it because it was in a show.
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Cobalt said:
But at the end of the day, to each his own.
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Vehemently agree.
 
Cobalt said:
To each his own I guess but, average steel, terrible blade geometry(low sabre grind), awefull serrations all for $2k? All because of some former SAS guy uses it in a TV show. Sure, it is about the show, but there is nothing in that knife that makes it worth $2k, Sorry. I can find a ton of american knife makers that will make a much better knife than that for less than a quarter the cost. What justifies that ridiculous price to you?
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I could never buy a 2k knife even if it was made of the best steel and materials on earth along with the most effective heat treat based on what I'm gonna be using it for. There are a few reasons why. 1) I do not buy knives that I cannot replace or afford to replace.Also, I do not buy knives that I will feel bad about using due to the price. 2) I'm not a rich man, so going out and spending $350 on a Fallkniven A1 Pro would be something I would do at tax season, but then I would be afraid of damaging it so it would probably stay in my desk where I would oil it once a month and gaze at it lovingly from time to time. Spending Two Thousand on a 154cm blade just cause Bear Grylls used it at one point before his Gerber Deal would not be something I would ever do. I'd rather go by a Ontario Blackbird SK-5 in 154 CM and support Paul Scheiter. So long winded post aside, I agree with you Cobalt.
 
marcinek said:
I didn't say whether I thought it was justified or not. I was asking the poster why he felt it was so outrageous, since he brought it up.
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I was only surprised about the price of that little bushcraft knife, that's all....

Prices of knives are virtually unlimited, and depends strongly on many factors and same knife have different value to different people...

Even if 2K would be my daily "pocket" change, I wouldn't pay it for small bushcraft knife like that,regardless of maker.I could posibbly see this price appropriate for very large fixed custom blade,made out of very expensive high end steel and that a lot of detailed and very demanding work has been done to make it....this knife, just doesn't justify (to me anyhow) its price...
Surelly there are those, who disagree and would pay for it anyday...not me.Having to pay that much, it would have to be basic (no historical or name value) Tamahagane Japanese Samurai sword, than no problem, anytime :)
 
Cobalt said:
There is maybe a few knives that I would consider paying $1500 or more for. ... But at the end of the day, to each his own.
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Hey, I an AUS-8 fan, so $500 is nutty to me. And cuckoo crazy for a production knife. But that's me.

That said, would a similarly priced Loveless drop point with micarta scales be justifiable? Or a mystery steel Scagel at ten times the price? Or a Fuegen knife you couldn't even hold and use?

The question interests me, and I took it the poster had thpught about it, and had an opinion on the subject, since he felt so strongly about the price of the Bayley.
 
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