Beer talk

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Age beer? Does beer age in the bottle like wine?
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Lambics age quite well, but there is a point of diminishing return. All beers, like all wines, reach a point where further aging does not improve them and actually begins to slowly deteriorate them. Generally, the fresher the better except for the high alcohol or other beers already mentioned.
 
db said:
Age beer? Does beer age in the bottle like wine?
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Per others, it does vary and some don't need to age. All beer ages a bit in cask/tank. Finer beers and mainly higher gravity ones will benefit the most in general (some lambics and gueze too). Many are also blends where part is aged for some period in oak, sherry casks, etc.

As far as post bottling, the same is probably true in general and more so for those with live yeast, on lees, etc.

I never seem to hold on very long, but have aged a few and they did mellow a bit like a burgundy.

scaldis noel for 3 years.
Abbey de floreffe (magnum bottle) for 2.

I guess that is why they call them the burgundies of Belgium.

I've had less success in holding on to barley wines, scotch ales, and other misc higher gravity examples, etc. cause I like em, but I've had a decade of Thomas HArdy's (every other 2 years), and 5 straight years of Anchor (special holiday beer a few years ago).

fullers 1845 and their vintage series will age for a while and do taste better over time. (I can never seem to hold on to these very long either.)

Most commercially available in the US probably won't hold up well to aging for a decade, but I am sure there are some examples in Europe where you can find exmaples 10+ years old, or special blends where one of the additives is 5, 10, etc. years old. I've never tried these, but had a friend in the business that was treated to examples at cloisters on a buying trip.
 
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This afternoon a very nice BSDA, St. Bernardus, Christmas Ale, poured into my new St. Bernardus Watou Over Sized Wine Glass.
 
Tonight a Grand Teton Mountainberry 20th Anniversary Double Wheat Ale. This is a pretty tasty brew, highly recommended.
 
I went out for dinner last night and they had Central waters on tap. I had a pint of Mud Puppy Porter, and the wife had Ouisconsing Red Ale. I even helped her finish hers. They both are very good.

Anyone like or have an answer for the trivia questions?
db said:
A little trivia for everyone. Turn a can of Red Dog upside down, what do you see? Look for a standing frog on a can of Old Style, what is he doing?
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I'll add another trivia question
What is Ouisconsing?
 
Tonight a Eel River Triple Exulation, very tasty Old Ale.

I love the Central Waters brew's I've had, very very tasty.
 
Tonight a very nice APA from Sierra Nevada, Southern Hemisphere Harvest Fresh Hop Ale, a classic. Anyone else having a brew tonight?
 
I bought a bottle of the Stone Bitter Chocolate Oatmeal Stout today. I had sampled it at a bar around here(Croxley Ales), but they weren't selling it yet(I dunno what they were waiting for) as they had only been able to get their hands on one batch of the stuff. It was super delicious, but I think I'll save it for another night, I didn't leave enough room in my belly after dinner tonight to justify opening up that 24oz bottle!

If I like it enough I definently pick a couple more bottles to age.
 
oh yea, I suppose 16+6(which I added up form reading the label) does equal 22 nowadays.
 
Someone say DIPA? OK then a DFH 90 minute it is. On my way to pour it now.:)
 
db said:
I went out for dinner last night and they had Central waters on tap. I had a pint of Mud Puppy Porter, and the wife had Ouisconsing Red Ale. I even helped her finish hers. They both are very good.
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Where were you? Hilltop?

db said:
Anyone like or have an answer for the trivia questions?


I'll add another trivia question
What is Ouisconsing?
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Ouisconsing is the bastardized version of Meskonsing, which is how the Algonquian pronounced the area as recorded by Jacques Marquette. It means "it lies red". Probably a good reason why Central Waters calls their red ale Ouisconsing.

[Edited to add:] Wisconsin is the Anglicisation of Ouisconsing.
 
Suicycoprowler said:
Where were you? Hilltop?


Ouisconsing is the bastardized version of Meskonsing, which is how the Algonquian pronounced the area as recorded by Jacques Marquette. It means "it lies red". Probably a good reason why Central Waters calls their red ale Ouisconsing.

[Edited to add:] Wisconsin is the Anglicisation of Ouisconsing.
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Bingo on both. The waitress didn't like or drink beer but she did know what Ouisconsing was. Not sure what I'm going to drink tonight. I have a couple of DFH 90 min and Sam Adams black left. Wish I could find some CS Coffee stout I've had a taste for it since I ran out of it.
 
When I first was able to purchase beer, back when 19 was the legal age in Nebraska, I drank Falstaff or Blue Ribbon. Never cared for Storz Triumph that was brewed right in Omaha.

Now that I am drink very seldom, a beer a month or less, and usually when out to dinner, I will get Sam Adams when available, Fosters if not and Michelob if that is my only decent choice.
 
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