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And quite a lot of people who are "gun nerds" won't touch them with a 10' pole because of it. I won't even touch one that's used (and the mfg won't see $ from since I refuse to be associated with that kind of turncoat company, even by owning/shooting their wares).
What they did is unforgivable. By orders of magnitude worse than BM. The only reason they are still around is they have deep pockets. But after the stunt they pulled, I will never ever own one of their products. Which is sad because they offered some of the most reasonably priced 1911s that were fully optioned.
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I guess them voting with their wallet seems like not a good idea to you because benchmades documented donations to anti gun politicians is not a big deal to you? Well, I suppose everyone is entitled to their opinion. In my and obviously many many others opinions, it is a big deal to give money to the people actively working to disarm me/us.
While not everyone can pick up and move, making whatever effort they can is still appreciated. Just because they can't commit 100% of their life to it at this very moment doesn't mean they should turn a blind eye to what they now know.
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You can't be tone deaf as a business owner these days.
I sure BM is VERY sensative to how knife laws affect their customers rights. They should be equally sensative, given their business model, to RKBA rights. Especially given the huge cross over pollination between the two industries and it's consumer bases.
Noveske taking down it's Benchmade product pages is a perfect example.
BM Had a great opportunity to set things straight.
Instead putting out a video that basically says its my business if you don't like my decisions buy somewhere else isn't productive to your bottom line.
Its the same with California "Gunowners" who vote for Democrats and rationalize that they are not single issue voters.
Knives are "Arms" as well.
I sure BM is VERY sensative to how knife laws affect their customers rights. They should be equally sensative, given their business model, to RKBA rights. Especially given the huge cross over pollination between the two industries and it's consumer bases.
Noveske taking down it's Benchmade product pages is a perfect example.
BM Had a great opportunity to set things straight.
Instead putting out a video that basically says its my business if you don't like my decisions buy somewhere else isn't productive to your bottom line.
Its the same with California "Gunowners" who vote for Democrats and rationalize that they are not single issue voters.
Knives are "Arms" as well.
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It's almost as if Benchmade's management is completely oblivious to how closely tied their products and customer base are to the gun industry.
Every brick and mortar store that sells Benchmade knives within 100 miles of here IS A GUN SHOP!
Every brick and mortar store that sells Benchmade knives within 100 miles of here IS A GUN SHOP!
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Wow, talk about throwing gas on a fire....that video was...a real hoot. That actually made me mad for the first time since this debacle started.
Okey-doke then, in addition to boycotting BM, I also won't be purchasing ANY kind of knife from any knife retailer that remains a BM dealer and sells their products. Dang shame too, I really like the mountain boys I usually buy from, but it's time to start voting with my wallet.
Embargo on.
Okey-doke then, in addition to boycotting BM, I also won't be purchasing ANY kind of knife from any knife retailer that remains a BM dealer and sells their products. Dang shame too, I really like the mountain boys I usually buy from, but it's time to start voting with my wallet.
Embargo on.
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I also won't be purchasing ANY kind of knife from any knife retailer that remains a BM dealer and sells their products. Dang shame too, I really like the mountain boys I usually buy from, but it's time to start voting with my wallet.
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And that’s the fear of some Dealrs . I haven’t seen one advertised Benchmade on IG and I follow a lot of dealers .
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And that’s the fear of some Dealrs . I haven’t seen one advertised Benchmade on IG and I follow a lot of dealers .
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That's what I'm surprised by too. The only non gun store in my state that I've seen sell Benchmade knives is REI. And their selection is very limited.
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Here is a spokesman for Benchmade . https://soundcloud.com/thelarslarso...uns?in=thelarslarsonshow/sets/interviews-2019
They're not but both are a consideration. I generally avoid buying from companies that chose to locate in states with overbearing governments. It's not the only factor by I pay attention to it.
just one point, as an outside observer (being Canadian)...
The Russian use of social media 'hacking' has been specifically shown to encourage hatred, and vitriol and be intentionally inflammatory to sow seeds of discord.
Don't let them get away with it; be cool, be civil, and promote dialogue. Don't let yourself hate a person because you disagree with their political views. (no matter how stupid they are). Be an educator, & not part of the lynch mob.
The Russian use of social media 'hacking' has been specifically shown to encourage hatred, and vitriol and be intentionally inflammatory to sow seeds of discord.
Don't let them get away with it; be cool, be civil, and promote dialogue. Don't let yourself hate a person because you disagree with their political views. (no matter how stupid they are). Be an educator, & not part of the lynch mob.
Benchmade cut the guns up, they admitted it.
Benchmade made the political contributions, USA law requires those to be reported, which is how we know they did it.
I don't know how else to tell you that this isn't a russian plot, because it isn't. Benchmade owns this whole thing. They did these things.
On an aside, Hillary and her campaign had more close ties with the russians than did anyone else, don't believe the spin you hear on the media.....which in the USA is owned by big $ D's. Look into Bloomburg and his billions, owning CNN, etc. (Here's your red pill).
I never said Russians are specifically involved in this BM bru-ha-ha (but they could be acting as trolls thru individual accounts - that is still ongoing & reality)
My post is about being civil, and not instantly jumping to hate mode.
(fwiw, I think it makes sense to boycott the company if you support 2A and dislike the specific actions of the company)
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I don't think they are specifically trying to push left or right politics - only hatred and discord from whichever side is more convenient in a given situation, usually both sides. The historical reports and logs are very clear; Russian trolls acted on the left AND on the right over years, on social media/internet/forums/etc etc
Somehow you assumed my point was that somehow Russians made the whole thing up??? That seems very silly given that I said nothing of the sort.
My post is about being civil, and not instantly jumping to hate mode.
(fwiw, I think it makes sense to boycott the company if you support 2A and dislike the specific actions of the company)
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I don't think they are specifically trying to push left or right politics - only hatred and discord from whichever side is more convenient in a given situation, usually both sides. The historical reports and logs are very clear; Russian trolls acted on the left AND on the right over years, on social media/internet/forums/etc etc
Somehow you assumed my point was that somehow Russians made the whole thing up??? That seems very silly given that I said nothing of the sort.
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People are more upset about the dishonesty than the actual chopping up of a few guns.
Of which, one was made into an untegistered short barreled shotgun clearly seen in the pics the OCPD posted....which BTW...is a felony, Benchmade, that the OCPD allowed you to commit..and then posted pics bragging about it.
They basically hung you, if they so wished.
Be careful who you blindly trust.
Of which, one was made into an untegistered short barreled shotgun clearly seen in the pics the OCPD posted....which BTW...is a felony, Benchmade, that the OCPD allowed you to commit..and then posted pics bragging about it.
They basically hung you, if they so wished.
Be careful who you blindly trust.
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Who am I gonna sell it to? Is anybody buying BM's today?
I don't want to get political, but I have to say, anybody who would WANT to buy one today, is not someone I want to sell to. Screw it, maybe i'll just destroy the damn thing like they did....grind off their logo and make it into a camp spork.
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That's pretty excessive. Despite your desires, you still share this planet with people who don't agree with you on many things, including the 2nd Amendment.
You are breathing the same air as liberals!
Am I going to get the antifaistaids if I breathe the same air? No?
We can agree to disagree. That's the line. Stay in your lane and I'll stay in mine.
Let's not tickle this particular bear. That is, if you want to stay civil. We disagree. Fine. You won't change my mind, you won't change my position. I fought for my rights and for my country, and I'm not going to be giving those rights up because someone on the left doesn't like that I can tell them "no."
Just out of curiosity, texpat, how about if it was a Canadian who wanted to buy your used BM's today? A good quality tool at a vast discount is hard to resist. If you sell it to a non-USA resident you get them out of the country & out of local circulation. I ask as a hypothetical, only.
(curious about the semantics here) If my country has nothing to do with 2A... would I be an a$$ getting them at a 50% discount?
(curious about the semantics here) If my country has nothing to do with 2A... would I be an a$$ getting them at a 50% discount?
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