Benchmade Discussion without Politics or Insults

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Call me crazy but I'm going to keep buying Benchmades. I don't care about a companie's political affiliations as much as I care about their products and customer service. I have have nothing but pleasant experiences with both.

As far as cutting guns...not sure about up in Oregon but my department sells guns on gov deals as long as they are legal. However, most guns in our property room are geared to be destroyed because they have been illegally modified.

I have no problem with a gun thats been stolen and had the serial number filed off being destroyed. These are the guns that typically end up in criminal's hands and are used in the commission of crimes. It's not like Benchmade is cutting up mint condition Colt Pythons and Brand new ARs.

True....

My issue is WHY would a knife company stop making their profit item in order to do a PR item like this when the sheriff's office had traditionally used a scrapper yard to destroy these guns. The scrapper yard would spend all of 15 minutes max on destroying these guns with heavy machines. Benchmade did it with grinders and bandsaws, at greater expense of blades, wheels, and time.

The larger problem is that when people dug into their political donation history....and that's not the private donation history of the owner/CEO/whatever....but donations from the company itself....they found that BM donates to antigun politicians exclusively for a number of years, consecutively. The gun destruction is just the thing that caused the rest to be uncovered.

The fact that it has blown up this bad is a pretty good testament to the fact that BM screwed the pooch on this, and their main customers disagree with what they've done...not only with the gun destruction, but with the political contributions.

It's my strong belief that as a business, aligning your company with any political belief is a bad idea because no matter which way you go you are sure to piss off potential customers.....unless your business is a huge % of one political belief, then align your political stance with theirs to promote good will to the largest percentage of your customers. Otherwise, you will face a customer revolt. Just look at Dicks.
 
It's my strong belief that as a business, aligning your company with any political belief is a bad idea because no matter which way you go you are sure to piss off potential customers
I agree wholeheartedly with this sentiment.
 
I actually emailed Wolff to see if they’d sell replacement omega springs because if there’s anything I can complain about with BM, it’s only the fact that they won’t sell just the springs. Wolff said they couldn’t sell in small quantities but it’d be awesome if a group buy was started! I’d love to have Wolff springs in all my benchmades!
Better yet tell Benchmade to use them. I always hated that, I have to send the whole knife to get 1 omega spring replaced. I’m not a baby I can put it together and take it apart. Kershaw will just mail you any part on any knife.
 
Better yet tell Benchmade to use them. I always hated that, I have to send the whole knife to get 1 omega spring replaced. I’m not a baby I can put it together and take it apart. Kershaw will just mail you any part on any knife.
It’s nice that BM will send pocket clips and thumb studs for free but yea I can and have disassembled and reassembled all my benchmades. That shoki I have was a real B**ch (three tiny ball bearings inside the pivot :confused:) but I got it back together just fine. I’m more than capable of changing an omega spring.
 
Oregon law allows the resale of LEO confiscated firearms, and the funds benefit the department.
https://www.oregonlaws.org/ors/166.279

The OCPD Chief of Police has a department policy of destroying every gun they confiscate regardless of condition.
He is openly anti 2A, hence the original post and pics of BM chopping up guns.

I would venture to say a lot of his officers don't care for his stance and just as many don't care at all. Contrary to popular media not all cops are 2nd amendment activist gun nuts. Some people at my department had never shot a gun before the academy.

Then you have the former service members and hardcore gun nuts. I would like to think I fall somewhere in the middle. I'm not going to be marching in any rallies but I can appreciate a nice gun just like nice knives, cars, watches ect.
 
I'm just disappointed Benchmade didn't use some of that gun steel to make some Damascus blades. I seem to remember Boker doing that years ago with the barrels from deactivated tanks.
 
just one point, as an outside observer (being Canadian)...

The Russian use of social media 'hacking' has been specifically shown to encourage hatred, and vitriol and be intentionally inflammatory to sow seeds of discord.

Don't let them get away with it; be cool, be civil, and promote dialogue. Don't let yourself hate a person because you disagree with their political views. (no matter how stupid they are). Be an educator, & not part of the lynch mob.

Is this you? :rolleyes:
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Who knows, they still might. Here’s to hoping!
I know most of them are mainly aluminum alloy or polymer receivers, but there's gotta be enough usable steel in the slides and barrels to make a decent sized batch.

I'd be tempted by a 300 layer Sig/Glock Damascus steel blade.
 
True....

My issue is WHY would a knife company stop making their profit item in order to do a PR item like this when the sheriff's office had traditionally used a scrapper yard to destroy these guns. The scrapper yard would spend all of 15 minutes max on destroying these guns with heavy machines. Benchmade did it with grinders and bandsaws, at greater expense of blades, wheels, and time.

The larger problem is that when people dug into their political donation history....and that's not the private donation history of the owner/CEO/whatever....but donations from the company itself....they found that BM donates to antigun politicians exclusively for a number of years, consecutively. The gun destruction is just the thing that caused the rest to be uncovered.

The fact that it has blown up this bad is a pretty good testament to the fact that BM screwed the pooch on this, and their main customers disagree with what they've done...not only with the gun destruction, but with the political contributions.

It's my strong belief that as a business, aligning your company with any political belief is a bad idea because no matter which way you go you are sure to piss off potential customers.....unless your business is a huge % of one political belief, then align your political stance with theirs to promote good will to the largest percentage of your customers. Otherwise, you will face a customer revolt. Just look at Dicks.

Exactly why I stay away from politics. Side note...I think the term "Screwed the pooch." should not be as widely accepted as a common colloquial expression. That would be an awkward thing to walk in on.
 
I know most of them are mainly aluminum alloy or polymer receivers, but there's gotta be enough usable steel in the slides and barrels to make a decent sized batch.

I'd be tempted by a 300 layer Sig/Glock Damascus steel blade.
Maybe they could use the stocks for some nice wood inlays or even full scales. The aluminum could be bolsters or liners. The polymer I’m sure would make for some nice scales too.
 
Don’t worry, for every person on a political side that boycotts, two people on the other side will buy. Doesn’t matter which side or what product, that’s just how it works. I for one can’t wait to get a new Benchmade. It’s been too long.


Benchmade just bet their entire company and its future on that very idea.

From their responses I think they are now wishing they hadn't.

They should be worried, because we have seen this movie before and we know how it ends.
 
Benchmade just bet their entire company and its future on that very idea.

From their responses I think they are now wishing they hadn't.

They should be worried, because we have seen this movie before and we know how it ends.
Yup, we know Nike, Gillette, Yeti all profited when conservatives boycotted them just like chick fil a and hobby lobby with liberals. They’ll be fine.
 
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Benchmade just bet their entire company and its future on that very idea.

From their responses I think they are now wishing they hadn't.

They should be worried, because we have seen this movie before and we know how it ends.

They are a private company so we will really never know. They will still be around, and eventually they will put a positive spin on things about how sales didn't drop "as much as expected" and this was all a "learning experience." The reality is that Les de Asis is going to lose a ton of money over this. A ton of money. Like I said, no one will ever know how much, but those people suggesting that liberals are going to step up and carry the company are living in a dream world. There is a reason why Benchmade shows up at the NRA convention and doesn't have a booth at the Planned Parenthood conference.
 
The two that I have are to the point of not being worth a damn.
Of course there seems to be a few people that want something for nothing.
I have said it before and I will say it again... I don't really have a dog in this fight. I wasn't offended by this fiasco with Benchmade, nor have they done anything overt that I feel deserves special support.

That being said, I would gladly pay a fair price for a Benchmade that someone was getting rid of due to philosophical differences.

Of course some have noted they would never be willing to deal with a person who wasn't outraged with Benchmade, but I am too much of a pragmatist for that.
 
Lose money, layoffs, QC and service tank... even for the ones that don't care about the political side of things they may get a product that was a shadow of the former ones. Downward spiral.
 
Lose money, layoffs, QC and service tank... even for the ones that don't care about the political side of things they may get a product that was a shadow of the former ones. Downward spiral.
Luckily the people upset with their choices are likely a tiny fraction of their customer base. The vast majority doesn’t know about this and a large amount don’t care. Then you’ll have the spite buyers who’ll jump on a Benchmade bandwagon because the opposite political side is pissed at them.
 
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