Bad Beware of Jeremy Swisher aka j-swish16, jamesjones, & JKnight1. Misrepresented condition of knife - painful transaction and ordeal.

Rustyperiscope said:
You’re conflating things, putting words in my mouth, and I disagree with you. Days since your joined date has no bearing on your credibility or intentions as a seller. Activity and feedback is a different story. J-swish is a brand new seller, but has exceptional feedback and activity score. I believe him to be a good seller, and don’t feel the “has to be x months old account” argument is just.
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If this really was an example of exceptional feedback for a good seller I would tell people to avoid the exchange at all costs. I strongly recommend you increase your standards of what should be expected of people doing business here.
 
I'm just glad this particular problem was resolved by j-swish16 admitting he was in the wrong and triplem accepting his apology and the agreeing to a refund and knife return.

It can be hard to know who you are dealing with, but there are many good folks here who sell and/or trade every day with little or no problem. But there are always gonna be those who are not trustworthy, and we must all use some discernment when choosing to do business with (generally speaking) strangers. Granted, some people do business and then get to know each other on a more personal level and that's good, but not everyone does that.

As others have noted, we were all new here once, and just because someone is new shouldn't necessarily be a major factor by itself as to whether or not to do business with them. I think a general rule of newer member shipping first and that sort of thing is in order. Another thing would be would Spark or one of the Mods be willing to act as a go-between in deals if need be?

As for terms used in describing knives (or other items), BNIB & LNIB and others aren't really easy to define. I prefer terms like "excellent to near new" for example. I have a knife that I describe this way. I bought it new from 1 of the internet knife Retailers. I took it out of the box, handled it, took it out of the sheath a few times, maybe cut a piece of paper with it. It has some minor marks from rubbing against the sheath. It is technically used, but it looks almost new. You could use "Very Good" "Good" "Fair" "Poor" "User" "Beater" things like that.

Something to consider...
 
nighthawk86 said:
Another thing would be would Spark or one of the Mods be willing to act as a go-between in deals if need be?
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I wouldn't mind helping to arbitrate a dispute, but if it comes to receiving and sending on items, there is a risk of something getting lost in shipment which then leaves the 3rd party moderator in a very awkward position...since he is not the owner of the item and might not be able to get a claim paid.

Arbitration? Within reason, I'd have no problem trying to help out. I've been a party to I don't know how many court cases during my career as an LEO.

Just really depends on what the facts are.
 
triplem said:
I have not been active for quite some time but I joined in 2002 and I do lurk and learn. In the future I'll focus on long term members with positive feedback. Thanks for the good advice AntDog!
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It’s not often I come across someone who’s been here longer than I have! 👀
 
Update time........Ok so the knife arrived today and I must say earlier than expected. At least earlier than expected given the date when the tracking numbers were sent and the knife actually shipped. However I was sweating like the previous buyer from J-swish when I hadn't heard anything in days and did take a few days to ship. No harm on this though as I myself have been guilty of being busy or occupied to where I didn't ship that same day or so. Now onto the knife. I was under the impression when it arrived it would be in LNIB condition however when I opened the package it clearly wasn't. Now everyone might have their differences as to what LNIB actually means (and see it is mentioned above a few times) but my personal take is it the blade wouldn't be sharpened and no marks on the knife. Personally I wouldn't list a knife and claim it as such if it wasn't in this very condition and call it LNIB. Then I went over to the seller's actual description and it reads "I HAVE TWO KERSHAW AUTO’s (launch 1 & 2). THE LAUNCH 1 is black with a stonewashed blade. NEVER CARRIED, cut or sharpened".

To give a history of Launches I've handled are quite a few from 1, 5, 8, 9 and so forth and have owned 2 other Launch 1's at some point. Though I wouldn't bet my life on it, I'd bet an expensive bike and a car this knife has been sharpened before. One can note the blade grinds and the width of the blade from edge to spine and to an experienced eye it isn't hard to tell. Then you have the discoloration and fine grime on the edge seen with the naked eye and a few rough marks near the tip. (If I had a higher powered camera I'd take a shot.) The black wash does a good job of hiding scratches but there in the right light a visible scratch exists about 1/3 up the blade from the scales across the whole blade horizontally. In addition there are light snail marks on both sides of scales as one would be if you dragged something very lightly across the finish on a new Sebenza (not deep but visible in right light). Finally, the pocket clip is CLEARLY marked up on both sides and across the top. I know I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed at times but maybe someone can tell me how you can mark up a clip as such and claim it to be "never carried"? Then firing button was kind of gritty which IMO I've never experienced before in a Launch knife used or new otherwise. After taking the knife apart it was clearly overly oiled and some grit in the firing plunge and around the pivot. Again, I've never received a non-smooth Launch new or otherwise used that had to be cleaned.

Thus in light of all this info it is very hard to believe the knife wasn't sharpened, wasn't carried, and definitely cut more than a few things. Here are some photos:

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My unsolicited thoughts, Boru13 Boru13 Blues Blues is to my understanding, that Bladeforums is a site for knife enthusiasts. BF is NOT a buy/sell forum.

BF does have a subforum for B/S/T, aka the Exchange. To my understanding, the exchange is for BF members to B/S/T under their own responsibility. BF CANNOT be held responsible for deals that go south.

The mods here volunteer their time to make sure that BF runs smoothly. They don’t even have to mediate a bad exchange transaction, but they do when it’s necessary.

A third in between sale party is a terrible idea. It puts more work on the mods, and is unnecessary. We are all grownups here, so if you decide to do a deal and it goes south…it’s on you.

Also, a third party transaction can cause all kinds of problems. First, if the knife is not as described, who’s fault is it? Did it come from the seller that way? Did the third party play with it and drop it? What about the extra time in the mail, not to mention the extra shipping costs.

And wait! You are asking the mods to do this for free??!!

If I was the mods, Blues Blues Boru13 Boru13 I would also gracefully bow out of such a position.

When dealing in the exchange, we are expected to put our “big-boy pants” on, and make good judgements. No F&F payments, cover our butts and be a good seller/buyer. If anything seems off, it is our responsibility as a buyer/seller to back out of the deal.

Just my thoughts.
 
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Gilbert G said:
Update time........Ok so the knife arrived today and I must say earlier than expected. At least earlier than expected given the date when the tracking numbers were sent and the knife actually shipped. However I was sweating like the previous buyer from J-swish when I hadn't heard anything in days and did take a few days to ship. No harm on this though as I myself have been guilty of being busy or occupied to where I didn't ship that same day or so. Now onto the knife. I was under the impression when it arrived it would be in LNIB condition however when I opened the package it clearly wasn't. Now everyone might have their differences as to what LNIB actually means (and see it is mentioned above a few times) but my personal take is it the blade wouldn't be sharpened and no marks on the knife. Personally I wouldn't list a knife and claim it as such if it wasn't in this very condition and call it LNIB. Then I went over to the seller's actual description and it reads "I HAVE TWO KERSHAW AUTO’s (launch 1 & 2). THE LAUNCH 1 is black with a stonewashed blade. NEVER CARRIED, cut or sharpened".

To give a history of Launches I've handled are quite a few from 1, 5, 8, 9 and so forth and have owned 2 other Launch 1's at some point. Though I wouldn't bet my life on it, I'd bet an expensive bike and a car this knife has been sharpened before. One can note the blade grinds and the width of the blade from edge to spine and to an experienced eye it isn't hard to tell. Then you have the discoloration and fine grime on the edge seen with the naked eye and a few rough marks near the tip. (If I had a higher powered camera I'd take a shot.) The black wash does a good job of hiding scratches but there in the right light a visible scratch exists about 1/3 up the blade from the scales across the whole blade horizontally. In addition there are light snail marks on both sides of scales as one would be if you dragged something very lightly across the finish on a new Sebenza (not deep but visible in right light). Finally, the pocket clip is CLEARLY marked up on both sides and across the top. I know I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed at times but maybe someone can tell me how you can mark up a clip as such and claim it to be "never carried"? Then firing button was kind of gritty which IMO I've never experienced before in a Launch knife used or new otherwise. After taking the knife apart it was clearly overly oiled and some grit in the firing plunge and around the pivot. Again, I've never received a non-smooth Launch new or otherwise used that had to be cleaned.

Thus in light of all this info it is very hard to believe the knife wasn't sharpened, wasn't carried, and definitely cut more than a few things. Here are some photos:

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Rustyperiscope Rustyperiscope ....Still vouching for this "stand up guy?"

J j-swish16
 
Gilbert G said:
Update time........Ok so the knife arrived today and I must say earlier than expected. At least earlier than expected given the date when the tracking numbers were sent and the knife actually shipped. However I was sweating like the previous buyer from J-swish when I hadn't heard anything in days and did take a few days to ship. No harm on this though as I myself have been guilty of being busy or occupied to where I didn't ship that same day or so. Now onto the knife. I was under the impression when it arrived it would be in LNIB condition however when I opened the package it clearly wasn't. Now everyone might have their differences as to what LNIB actually means (and see it is mentioned above a few times) but my personal take is it the blade wouldn't be sharpened and no marks on the knife. Personally I wouldn't list a knife and claim it as such if it wasn't in this very condition and call it LNIB. Then I went over to the seller's actual description and it reads "I HAVE TWO KERSHAW AUTO’s (launch 1 & 2). THE LAUNCH 1 is black with a stonewashed blade. NEVER CARRIED, cut or sharpened".

To give a history of Launches I've handled are quite a few from 1, 5, 8, 9 and so forth and have owned 2 other Launch 1's at some point. Though I wouldn't bet my life on it, I'd bet an expensive bike and a car this knife has been sharpened before. One can note the blade grinds and the width of the blade from edge to spine and to an experienced eye it isn't hard to tell. Then you have the discoloration and fine grime on the edge seen with the naked eye and a few rough marks near the tip. (If I had a higher powered camera I'd take a shot.) The black wash does a good job of hiding scratches but there in the right light a visible scratch exists about 1/3 up the blade from the scales across the whole blade horizontally. In addition there are light snail marks on both sides of scales as one would be if you dragged something very lightly across the finish on a new Sebenza (not deep but visible in right light). Finally, the pocket clip is CLEARLY marked up on both sides and across the top. I know I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed at times but maybe someone can tell me how you can mark up a clip as such and claim it to be "never carried"? Then firing button was kind of gritty which IMO I've never experienced before in a Launch knife used or new otherwise. After taking the knife apart it was clearly overly oiled and some grit in the firing plunge and around the pivot. Again, I've never received a non-smooth Launch new or otherwise used that had to be cleaned.

Thus in light of all this info it is very hard to believe the knife wasn't sharpened, wasn't carried, and definitely cut more than a few things. Here are some photos:

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That knife has been "exceptionally" carried. Wouldn't you agree, Rustyperiscope Rustyperiscope ?

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Gilbert G Gilbert G , if that Launch was listed LNIB, the seller needs to be flamed.
Just look at that pocket clip!?! It’s Clearly misrepresented. Clearly.
The knife will probably serve you well, but I’d be pissed. Lack of integrity. Misrepresentation.

Anything more to say about it, J j-swish16 ?
Even in the impossible likelihood the clip came out of the box like that, why wouldn’t you disclose it in the listing???
Clowns like you…it just blows my mind.
 
Gilbert G said:
Update time........Ok so the knife arrived today and I must say earlier than expected. At least earlier than expected given the date when the tracking numbers were sent and the knife actually shipped. However I was sweating like the previous buyer from J-swish when I hadn't heard anything in days and did take a few days to ship. No harm on this though as I myself have been guilty of being busy or occupied to where I didn't ship that same day or so. Now onto the knife. I was under the impression when it arrived it would be in LNIB condition however when I opened the package it clearly wasn't. Now everyone might have their differences as to what LNIB actually means (and see it is mentioned above a few times) but my personal take is it the blade wouldn't be sharpened and no marks on the knife. Personally I wouldn't list a knife and claim it as such if it wasn't in this very condition and call it LNIB. Then I went over to the seller's actual description and it reads "I HAVE TWO KERSHAW AUTO’s (launch 1 & 2). THE LAUNCH 1 is black with a stonewashed blade. NEVER CARRIED, cut or sharpened".

To give a history of Launches I've handled are quite a few from 1, 5, 8, 9 and so forth and have owned 2 other Launch 1's at some point. Though I wouldn't bet my life on it, I'd bet an expensive bike and a car this knife has been sharpened before. One can note the blade grinds and the width of the blade from edge to spine and to an experienced eye it isn't hard to tell. Then you have the discoloration and fine grime on the edge seen with the naked eye and a few rough marks near the tip. (If I had a higher powered camera I'd take a shot.) The black wash does a good job of hiding scratches but there in the right light a visible scratch exists about 1/3 up the blade from the scales across the whole blade horizontally. In addition there are light snail marks on both sides of scales as one would be if you dragged something very lightly across the finish on a new Sebenza (not deep but visible in right light). Finally, the pocket clip is CLEARLY marked up on both sides and across the top. I know I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed at times but maybe someone can tell me how you can mark up a clip as such and claim it to be "never carried"? Then firing button was kind of gritty which IMO I've never experienced before in a Launch knife used or new otherwise. After taking the knife apart it was clearly overly oiled and some grit in the firing plunge and around the pivot. Again, I've never received a non-smooth Launch new or otherwise used that had to be cleaned.

Thus in light of all this info it is very hard to believe the knife wasn't sharpened, wasn't carried, and definitely cut more than a few things. Here are some photos:

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Regrettable. I'm sorry you have to deal with this BS.

I don't know what the problem is with j-swish--bad eyes, poor judgment, life distractions, something else? It's not my place to understand what is going on with him, even if I could. I do, however, have a choice and my choice is to never deal with him. It's a simple and effective solution to all the unknowns he brings to a transaction.
 
Well, Jswish does it again. Any doubt about the past issue is now resolved. This seller obviously falsifies their listings and descriptions. Your LIB knife may end up be used, carried, with marks and dings, sharpened etc from this seller.

I will never do any biz with him and suggest others do the same. I always try and give people the benefit of the doubt, but when they have an obvious pattern - that's over!
 
on_the_edge said:
Regrettable. I'm sorry you have to deal with this BS.

I don't know what the problem is with j-swish--bad eyes, poor judgment, life distractions, something else? It's not my place to understand what is going on with him, even if I could. I do, however, have a choice and my choice is to never deal with him. It's a simple and effective solution to all the unknowns he brings to a transaction.
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Chris, on_the_edge on_the_edge ,is an example of someone who takes pains to get it right, I know this from personal experience.

He is one of those individuals I mentioned whom I would reply upon without asking for images if they weren't readily available.
 
Blues said:
Chris, on_the_edge on_the_edge ,is an example of someone who takes pains to get it right, I know this from personal experience.

He is one of those individuals I mentioned whom I would reply upon without asking for images if they weren't readily available.
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Thank you. The same could be said about you. :thumbsup: And, truth be told, there are many folks here that I trust, many with whom I have had a great transaction. However, trust is not automatically given until lost, but rather is earned over time.
 
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