BladeChick777 Bad Trade!

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I Didn't Lie, I Really Didn't Carry That Knife.
As Long As The Storm Comes In Tomorrow, It's Getting Sent Back To Him.
Sorry thebrain, I Acted Really Ignorant, And I Apologize For That.
I Got To Thinking More About The Situation, And As Long As It Shows Up In The Mail Tomorrow, It Will Be Sent Back.
Sorry Again.
 
BladeChick777 said:
I Didn't Lie, I Really Didn't Carry That Knife.
As Long As The Storm Comes In Tomorrow, It's Getting Sent Back To Him.
Sorry thebrain, I Acted Really Ignorant, And I Apologize For That.
I Got To Thinking More About The Situation, And As Long As It Shows Up In The Mail Tomorrow, It Will Be Sent Back.
Sorry Again.
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Props for being able to take a step back and admit the problem is there, and your willingness to remedy it.
 
I'm not taking sides here, but if a few scuffs "bum's you out to no end", then you must not have been planning to use the knife. I say use the knife, it's made in China! Is it a collector's item, or what?
I personally get more enjoyment from using a knife, not looking at a pristine knife from China. To each his own, but why own that knife if you don't want to use it?
 
foxx said:
I'm not taking sides here, but if a few scuffs "bum's you out to no end", then you must not have been planning to use the knife. I say use the knife, it's made in China! Is it a collector's item, or what?
I personally get more enjoyment from using a knife, not looking at a pristine knife from China. To each his own, but why own that knife if you don't want to use it?
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^^Great point here.^^

I guess its all about principles for TheBrain, which is cool no problem with that.
 
Always assume the terms "NIB" and "LNIB" are being used promiscuously, because in a high proportion of trade offers, they are. Ask for large, clear pictures of the knife. Ask specific questions about the condition of the knife--don't presume anything based on a "NIB" or "LNIB" description. Was it sharpened? Was it carried? Are there any marks on the blade/handle/clip? Get the person to talk about the knife. Human psychology is such that people are less likely to lie to you directly than to exaggerate a description (an indirect lie of sorts).
 
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BladeChick777 said:
I Didn't Lie, I Really Didn't Carry That Knife.
As Long As The Storm Comes In Tomorrow, It's Getting Sent Back To Him.
Sorry thebrain, I Acted Really Ignorant, And I Apologize For That.
I Got To Thinking More About The Situation, And As Long As It Shows Up In The Mail Tomorrow, It Will Be Sent Back.
Sorry Again.
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Please comment on the pictures. Is that the knife you described as "new without box" in your trade thread? Is it your honest opinion that this knife looks brand new? Even if the knife came out of the clamshell package in that same condition (that is, despite not looking new, the knife was in fact literally new), it was negligent of you not to mention the obvious wearing of the black coating on the metal of the blade, thumbstuds, and clip. Your responsibility is to convey the item's condition, whether through pics or verbal description--and if you didn't already know this, you probably shouldn't be trading.
 
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A $35.00 knife traded for a $35.00 knife. Both made overseas so cheaply they come in clampacks, not felted boxes. The manufacturers of those knives are not making art, they are making knives which meet the standards set by their importers, mostly price-point. If I had traded a $500 knife handmade by Darrel Ralph for a $500 knife handmade by Ken Onion, I would expect high quality and near perfection of fit and finish. Not so much in a knife I could buy from a rack in K-mart or Walmart. Unsatisfied? Untrade.
 
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Please comment on the pictures. Is that the knife you described as "new without box" in your trade thread? Is it your honest opinion that this knife is in new condition? Even if the knife came out of the clamshell package in that same condition (that is, despite not looking new, the knife was in fact literally new), it was negligent of you not to mention the obvious wear on the metal of the blade, thumbstuds, and clip. Your responsibility is to convey the item's condition, whether through pics or verbal description--and if you didn't already know this, you probably shouldn't be trading.
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Meyerco knives come in a clam pack. The Lambert Shockwave Meyerco I boughtt looked like it was carried, when I freed it from its plastic tomb. To be fair, the knives are shipped open, and the blade, clip and edges rub the plastic of th clam pack. I am not sure if the knife has been carried or not, but that is my one and only experience with Meyerco, the knives come out looking pretty rough sometimes.
 
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Brain, after viewing the pictures in post #9, I see your point. That knife is practically destroyed from misuse and abuse.:p NOT!!!!

I'd be far more concerned with the "CHINA" so prominently displayed on the blade if I were you.

You folks who react so, over what amounts to very minor imperfections amaze me. A $35 China knife is hardly what I would normally consider a collector item.

What do you do if you run into a real problem?

Paul
 
I've bought Spydercos with the black paint on the clips, right out of the box looking marked up and worn. Some I even bought new clips for, because I wasn't going to use the knife and wanted it looking new. Often a new knife of any brand can come a bit cosmetically flawed. I suppose there's only so much a factory can do and still stay within a price point.
 
I am very surprised by some of the responses in this thread. It doesn't matter where the knife was made or what the cost is. To be a successful member here you need to be able to describe what condition the knife is when you're putting it up for trade or sell. You could've just said something like never carried or used but does show little wear on the clip in as a few marks on the blade.
 
I have bought so many brand new knives costing from 50-500 dollars and it's not at all uncommon for them to show some degree of imperfection. That is if you look hard enough, I've found you generally will find something. This cheaper knife from China very well could have left the factory with some handling marks. It wouldn't surprise me at all.

If the OP isn't happy he should get the trade reversed. That is his right, no matter what the reason. Me I'd just suck it up and carry on, maybe not trade again with the party. (if I felt slighted) But, I'm not the one that has to be satisfied in this case, so yes he has the right to demand a reversal.
 
exact same experience with several meyerco knives as RevDevil. Occasionally you will get a near perfect one, but its not the norm.
 
rycen said:
I am very surprised by some of the responses in this thread. It doesn't matter where the knife was made or what the cost is. To be a successful member here you need to be able to describe what condition the knife is when you're putting it up for trade or sell. You could've just said something like never carried or used but does show little wear on the clip in as a few marks on the blade.
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I agree to that perspective. Yet, Bladegirl777 described the knife as new and uncarried. And, I'm guessing that she's not being as picky as Brain is, over this particular knife. That's perfectly fine, each of us will have different perceptions towards the same things. I don't think she was trying to mislead Brain, in this trade. And maybe some better pics or descriptions would have prevented the mix-up, but I wouldn't have gone out to buy a new camera, set up a well lit area to take exact photos of a $35 Chinese made knife. Just my $.02.
 
rycen said:
I am very surprised by some of the responses in this thread. It doesn't matter where the knife was made or what the cost is. To be a successful member here you need to be able to describe what condition the knife is when you're putting it up for trade or sell. You could've just said something like never carried or used but does show little wear on the clip in as a few marks on the blade.
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Excellent Post.

My thoughts exactly.
 
topfuel6 said:
Some crappy manufacturers send a POS that is, in fact, NIB.
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Some manufacturers are told by their customers "Send me knives that look like this for $12.50 including clampacks and shipping halfway around the world". Manufacturer complies. Customer marks it up another $10.00 and sells them to stores who sell them for $35.00 to their customers who want a cheap, usable knife. The customers who want cheap, not worried about usable, will buy the knife in the clampack on that rack marked $12.00. Don't want the quality of a truck stop knife? Don't buy a truck stop knife. Undo the deal or drop it in the file 13.
 
My only experience with a coated knife that came in a clamshell is the Buck/Strider 889. I had two of them and both of them most definitely looked used right out of the packaging that I personally opened. There were scuffs and tiny scratches all over the blade and thumbstuds. I wouldn't be surprised if a Chinese made knife looked worse.

I agree that bladechick could have described the item in more detail and thebrain should've asked for pictures. I also think the easy and headache-free thing to do is just reverse the trade and be done with it, especially considering they're relatively inexpensive knives.

However, I think an issue that is overlooked is that thebrain asked bladechick to ship first due to being a newer member. She complied, and as such, I feel the deal is done unless there was an issue with the item she received. thebrain should have evaluated the knife before sending his out.
 
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