Bose Knives

d.parker · Feb 4, 2009

The reason I asked the question to the reason for the name Remington Bone being thrown about, was because I had my doubts about it. Reese Bose had jigged and dyed some bone on one of his knifes, the owner of the knife had called the scales mistakenly Remington Bone. IMO he thought this would up the value of the knife as he was a dealer. Some one told him it was Reese's Bone. The bone on the knife Reese had done looked better IMO than the so called Remington Bone being used today. I just didn't like the fact of Reese's work which is excellent, which all know being called some thing it wasn't and not giving Reese credit for his work. Which I think he puts his whole heart in and learned from his Dad. Tony call it what ever you want, your son makes bone handles a hell of a lot better.. Darrell Parker

waynorth · Feb 4, 2009

KnifeHead said:
The possiblity for comebacks are huge but I will refrain.

A fitting post for number 4000!

And Kerry, knowing how you operate, I'll just say, "So's yer old man!"

orvet · Feb 4, 2009

I usually dont wander over into this forum as I have enough to keep me busy all day and them some without adding another forum to the mix. However, Fran & Charlie have been talking about & showing these drop dead gorgeous Bose knives & well, I had to check it out.

The discussion about bone caught my eye, so I thought I would try & add something.

Here is a scan of some bone I got from a fellow who said, many years ago he bought out what was left of the handle material from the old Geo. Schrade factory. LT (Rich Langston), said this was the real deal. He knows the guy and said he has the legit goods. These two bone slabs are for a Remington auto & as you can see are drilled for the pins already. They arent cleaned up & polished, but the jigging pattern looks to me like the scales on Frans knife.

Man, I really like these Bose knives in this thread!
Those Wharnnies are tempting!

Just my 2¢,
Dale

waynorth · Feb 4, 2009

After the initial euphoria settled down, I have been CFing and CEing this knife, and marvelling at its detailing. Tony really hit the nail on the head with this knife.
I personally like a slim knife, and have EDC'd many single backspring knives over the years. The fine old pieces I admire most, have beautiful handle material, hafted to a thin smooth edge, giving the illusion of an even slimmer profile, and feeling just exquisite in the hand. Many modern production, and CUSTOM knives are thick and blocky at the edges! They feel like a brick in your pocket.
Quite the opposite here. This knife has a smooth flow to the pocket and hand! And to the eye!!
Then there's the rattail bolsters. The nicest old Sheffield and U.S. knives use the rattail groove to meld the joint between metal and handle. The edge of the groove is right at the edge of the bolster, with just enough metal left to keep it from being sharp. Very sculptural, and it echos the hand and style of the old time cutlers. Those guys were concerned with making a knife just a little nicer, and one can almost watch Tony doing the same thing!
The blade is beautifully proportioned. The swedge, grind and pull all work to make a sturdy yet beautiful tool. Slim grind, it slices beautifully, and has lots of width to provide years of service. The Ivory doesn't get any better, with strong character, and warm feel. The shield makes you proud to own it, and gives you some braggin' rights! We all marvel when we see a nice old shield! That crowning touch on a pocket knife.
The action is flawless! Perfect spring and stops. Won't break your winter-brittled nails, but firm and secure.
Tony, thank you! Words only approximate how delighted and grateful I am!
There's a dozen other things, but I gotta go fondle my knife! Man, is life ever good!

d.parker · Feb 4, 2009

orvet said:
I usually dont wander over into this forum as I have enough to keep me busy all day and them some without adding another forum to the mix. However, Fran & Charlie have been talking about & showing these drop dead gorgeous Bose knives & well, I had to check it out.

The discussion about bone caught my eye, so I thought I would try & add something.

Here is a scan of some bone I got from a fellow who said, many years ago he bought out what was left of the handle material from the old Geo. Schrade factory. LT (Rich Langston), said this was the real deal. He knows the guy and said he has the legit goods. These two bone slabs are for a Remington auto & as you can see are drilled for the pins already. They arent cleaned up & polished, but the jigging pattern looks to me like the scales on Frans knife.

Man, I really like these Bose knives in this thread!
Those Wharnnies are tempting!

Just my 2¢,
Dale

I'm aware of Mr. Langston and have been for years if I remember he wrote a book on Automatic knives a few years back. As you probably know the Rogers Bone Co. And Winterbottom Bone Co. sold Bone scales to a number of different Cutlery Firms. The fact these cutlery co. used their bone on their knifes did not make it there brand name bone ie; Case, Queen Camillus Remington and many other cutlery co. that used Rogers Bone and Winterbottom bone. Again as you may know Remington Knives were contracted to Schrade ( loose wording again). The fact Schrade put their jigged and dyed bone on Remington Contract Auto knives does not make it Remington Bone. Mr. Langston said it came from the Schrade factory did he not.. I believe the bone Scales you pictured will fit a Schrade Auto as well. As you know they stopped making Automatic knives in 1958. Remington sold their Cutlery Business in 1940. So Schrade kept Remington Bone Scales for over 60 yrs. I don't think so, it was their Scale material they no longer had use for after 1958.....

Dr Bill · Feb 4, 2009

Waynorth, that is one awesome knife! Congrats!

Here are a few that are Remington Bone. At least as far as I know! All by Reese, a 5-blade stockman and three coffin jacks.

And here's one from Tony that is probably the bone in question. Advertised as Remington Bone, but it looks just a little different and may be the "Schrade" bone.

I'm not smart enough to tell the difference, but maybe someone here is. I just know they are all awesome!

Dr Bill · Feb 4, 2009

And speaking of handle materials, why no love for mother-of-pearl? I know it's not that popular right now, but I'm not sure why. It's probably one of the most stable natural handle materials and is certainly beautiful! Particularly some nice black lip.

I like it as I live in the desert where 10% humidity is high and the temperatures can get to 115 or so in the summer. I'm a little paranoid about ivory in such conditions - although I guess it should be OK. With MOP there are no worries. Or maybe that's just my excuse. . .

Anyway, here is a MOP Doctor's knife from Tony. Lucky #7.

JatMat · Feb 4, 2009

raydbonz said:
Waynorth, that is one awesome knife! Congrats!

Here are a few that are Remington Bone. At least as far as I know! All by Reese, a 5-blade stockman and three coffin jacks.

And here's one from Tony that is probably the bone in question. Advertised as Remington Bone, but it looks just a little different and may be the "Schrade" bone.

I'm not smart enough to tell the difference, but maybe someone here is. I just know they are all awesome!

raydbonz said:
And speaking of handle materials, why no love for mother-of-pearl? I know it's not that popular right now, but I'm not sure why. It's probably one of the most stable natural handle materials and is certainly beautiful! Particularly some nice black lip.

I like it as I live in the desert where 10% humidity is high and the temperatures can get to 115 or so in the summer. I'm a little paranoid about ivory in such conditions - although I guess it should be OK. With MOP there are no worries. Or maybe that's just my excuse. . .

Anyway, here is a MOP Doctor's knife from Tony. Lucky #7.

raydbonz, where have you been hiding? Some great knives shown here, thanks for sharing.:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
Jim

Dr Bill · Feb 4, 2009

James Todd said:
raydbonz, where have you been hiding? Some great knives shown here, thanks for sharing.:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
Jim

Here in the desert.

I'm a fairly new slip joint fan. Started out wanting some doctor's knives from various makers. Now, it's out of control!
I'll post the rest of the Bose knives later.
Bill

d.parker · Feb 4, 2009

raydbonz, Those are all beautiful knives by Reese and Tony none better made today or in the past. The Bone handles on all knives are the same. It is not the bone Remington 1920-1940 put on their Slipjoint knives. Their Auto knives were contract knives Scaled by Geo. Schrade. The bone scales being discussed may have been put on Remington Stamped Automatic knives, but it was jigged and dyed by Schrade. I'm not saying this style jigged bone wasn't put on Remington Auto knives. In my 60 yrs of paying attention to knives I have never seen this pattern on a Remington Knives of any pattern.. Your knives are no less valuable no matter what you call the scales. Congratulations on your Bose Knives....

VCM3 · Feb 4, 2009

Charlie,that post 4004 is really well done my friend.I like that alot & once more,congrats on that gorgeous knife.I salivated & droooled

,just like my dog over table scraps
The recent posts of the old Remington bone is real interesting,too,and I will add from my personal experience as well,the jigged bone that Reese does is the best I have ever seen,hands down. I recently saw a knife made by Tony that had hand jigged bone & it was also,the best looking .
Father & Son,they are the best
Thanks ,everyone,for making the Bose Knives thread ,just like the men & knives,the best :thumbup:
BTW,nice knives Doc,don't be a stranger here
-Vince

VCM3 · Feb 4, 2009

duckman1 said:
Here,s a pic of a swayback at work.

I really like the stag on this & knife ,too
-Vince

duckman1 · Feb 4, 2009

Here,s another pic of it Vince.

d.parker · Feb 4, 2009

orvet said:
I usually dont wander over into this forum as I have enough to keep me busy all day and them some without adding another forum to the mix. However, Fran & Charlie have been talking about & showing these drop dead gorgeous Bose knives & well, I had to check it out.

The discussion about bone caught my eye, so I thought I would try & add something.

Here is a scan of some bone I got from a fellow who said, many years ago he bought out what was left of the handle material from the old Geo. Schrade factory. LT (Rich Langston), said this was the real deal. He knows the guy and said he has the legit goods. These two bone slabs are for a Remington auto & as you can see are drilled for the pins already. They arent cleaned up & polished, but the jigging pattern looks to me like the scales on Frans knife.

Man, I really like these Bose knives in this thread!
Those Wharnnies are tempting!

Just my 2¢,
Dale

Dear Sir, Earlier when I was looking at your scans of the Scales you posted, I just glanced over them. After another look this evening I don't even believe them to be the same jig pattern, I know the color is different but didn't give much thought to that fact. My question to you sir which scale matches the scale on Frans Knife he posted a pix of ?

Thanks for your reply,

Absintheur · Feb 4, 2009

AG Russell Spring catalog came today (always a good day when it shows up) and on the second page was the Case Bose Arkansas Hunter. This one blew me away and will likely be my first Bose. Biggest problem is going to be deciding on the scale material...lol.

waynorth · Feb 4, 2009

d.parker said:
Dear Sir, Earlier when I was looking at your scans of the Scales you posted, I just glanced over them. After another look this evening I don't even believe them to be the same jig pattern, I know the color is different but didn't give much thought to that fact. My question to you sir which scale matches the scale on Frans Knife he posted a pix of ?

Thanks for your reply,

Darrell, I think if you plane or polish Dale's scale down, it will in fact resemble Fran's polished/worn/finished knife handle. (It may not be identical, but it's close enough for the girls I hang around with.

)

shaldag · Feb 4, 2009

raydbonz, those are incredible knives.

This forum is clearly the place for you. Welcome.

d.parker · Feb 5, 2009

waynorth said:
Darrell, I think if you plane or polish Dale's scale down, it will in fact resemble Fran's polished/worn/finished knife handle. (It may not be identical, but it's close enough for the girls I hang around with.)

Thanks Charlie, I understand if you finish and polish the scales to completion they will change appearance. What I'm saying the 2 scales Dale posted don't even match each other. To my eye either one doesn't match the one Fran posted. I don't have any doubt about them being Geo. Schrade Bone, I just don't think the ones Dale posted were ever on a Remington Knife of any kind was my point. Matter of fact I haven't ever seen any of the scales posted on a Remington Knife. My memory isn't as good as once was but I'm not blind yet. I'm still waiting to see a original Remington Knife with this So called original Remington bone on it. Like I have stated I stand to be corrected. I know for sure there is no original Remington Slipjoint with this bone on it... People that have this Bone in question for sale, they can call it what ever they want, but it isn't original Remington Bone. Pal cutlery would have been the last company to use the Bone Remington had on hand in 1940. What bone scale material Geo. Schrade had at that time was his not Remington's. Schrade hafted Remington contract knives with his own jigged and dyed bone...

waynorth · Feb 5, 2009

Darrell, I think you are right about the "Rem" bone that was sold. It's actually George Schrade bone, and I also think that all parties agree with you on that score.
But if you get in and measure the length and type of cuts in Dale's pieces, remembering that every piece is random so will vary, you will conclude they came from the same source, and Fran's did too!
Having the ridges between cuts sanded or worn flat gives a dramatic difference in appearance because you see more flat surface between cuts, and the cuts become shallower. But It's the same initial material, IMO. You have to consider the randomness of each piece.

And the girls I hang out with are very discerning individuals

!

d.parker · Feb 5, 2009

waynorth said:
Darrell, I think you are right about the "Rem" bone that was sold. It's actually George Schrade bone, and I also think that all parties agree with you on that score.
But if you get in and measure the length and type of cuts in Dale's pieces, remembering that every piece is random so will vary, you will conclude they came from the same source, and Fran's did too!
Having the ridges between cuts sanded or worn flat gives a dramatic difference in appearance because you see more flat surface between cuts, and the cuts become shallower. But It's the same initial material, IMO. You have to consider the randomness of each piece.

And the girls I hang out with are very discerning individuals!

Charlie agreed the bone in question is Geo. Schrade Bone Knife scales. Another point of mine is Knife Dealers today have this Geo. Schrade Bone on Custom Made Knives and are calling it Original Remington Bone, this is a mis-statement knowingly or not made. There are people selling these Geo. Schrade Bone Scales and not calling the Bone by it's proper name of the original manufacturer, Geo. Schrade Bone. The custom made slipjoints and other patterns also ie; Lockbacks buyers are being told this is Original Remington Scales, which it is not... Some buyers are not aware of this and should be made aware, as to make a choice if it matters to them or not...