Brands comparable to busse

The Mastiff said:
Nice knives Craytab.

Joe
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Thanks!

adams-usmc said:
Craytab, how do you like the ZT-0100? I've always thought it looked like a super comfy and useful design. How would you personally compare it to your RMD?
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I have not gotten to use it much. I have far too many knives in this size range! Plus, I need to have a kydex sheath made for it before it sees any real use. I can say that the RMD is one of the best knives in this size I have ever used.
 
I've been away awhile, but it IS comforting to see that the same music is still playing in my favorite hangout spot!

I only skimmed the thread, but I can see that several folks have already explained the situation, and it looks like Mr. Busse himself came in. Excellent.

Busse(& kin), there's not really anything like them. There are PLENTY of spectacular knives out there, all good at this or that. But when I think to myself "Man, I need to get through this cinderblock wall, and still be able to cut a sequoia in half on the other side" that's what has me reaching for my Rodent 9. I don't even have an "actual" Busse, but holding my R9 makes me feel like there isn't a whole lot I couldn't destroy with it. Your mileage of course, may vary.

Cray, sweet pics of your collection, brother. :thumbup:
 
If I want tough, I have several rmj tomahawks, if I want to cut I have knives in z wear, pd1 and 3v. I like infi, but I like sr101 better. But sr101 still doesn't hold that good of an edge, skinning or cutting heavy tow straps. I still like my swamp rats, but when I'm hunting, I carry 3v usually.
 
rodriguez7 said:
If I want tough, I have several rmj tomahawks, if I want to cut I have knives in z wear, pd1 and 3v. I like infi, but I like sr101 better. But sr101 still doesn't hold that good of an edge, skinning or cutting heavy tow straps. I still like my swamp rats, but when I'm hunting, I carry 3v usually.
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Hey man, don't tease. Show some pics
 
So Matt81818......have you found the answer you were looking for? Brands comparable to Busse?
.......NONE........ .
 
I'm not having as much luck as the rest of the Busse brothers.
These all perform as well if not better than my busses.
Though the Busse is most comfortable to use.
 
bodog said:
Man that's a monster blade!
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Funny story, I use my 2 nmfbm to workout.. i do these slash and jabs for about 30 min a day, my arms get very sore hahaha.
I could only imagine if my neighbor or passerby saw me doing these. At least no one will rob me...
 
sodak said:
To the OP, yes. Several brands have been suggested, Fehrman is the only one that I have (of those suggestions), and I would rank it above Busse in quality and edge holding.

Let's talk about the warranty for a minute. For me, it's essentially worthless. The reason is, all of my Busse's I got in the early 2000's. I was new to the forum and bought in to the hype. None of the models I own are currently made anymore, so if I break one, I only get to apply the value of the knife to a newer model. I don't like the newer models, so I'm stuck. It might be a lifetime warranty, but if that knife isn't being made anymore, it does you no good if you want to stay with that style of knife.

The quality of the steel is good, but it's not head and shoulders better than anything else out there. Look at the claims in the same way that you would look at Cold Steel claims. The Carbon V Trailmaster was claimed to be better than 95% of the bowies on the market. Impossible to prove or disprove.

As for the standing offer to all the other makers, why would they care? That's like me having a standard offer to beat anyone on this forum with a 50 lb bench press. People just laugh and dismiss such a claim. If you want to see how INFI stacks up for edge holding, go check out Ankerson's thread. 1800'ish cuts on rope is child's play for plenty of modern steels that could probably beat that by a factor of 10.



Nothing. INFI is a good steel, but I've found 3V to be just as tough for my needs with better edge holding.



Or it's viewed as a little dog yipping at big dogs as they walk by. Busse had to get his start somehow, and since they are heavy duty knives, getting attention is almost always a good thing. CS did the same type of stuff with it's Trailmaster.

Back in 2004/2005 I had to get rid of some aspen trees, 3 30 footers. I dropped and bucked them, then use both a CS Trailmaster and a Busse Battle Mistress to limb them, just to satisfy my curiosity. The Busse held a better edge, but not by much. Maybe 3 - 5 extra passes on the stone for the TM to get caught up in sharpness. Both did well, but it wasn't a huge difference - except in price.
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Hey Sodak, I see you live in Colorado. So do I. How about you put your Fehrman against my Battle Mistress. We can do a bunch of tests including chopping 2x4's cutting cardboard etc. Lets see which steel holds an edge longer. Hell, we can buy a ton of manilla rope and try that. But you can imagine right, INFI has already proven in public it can go to over 3000 cuts and still shave so that will be a lot of rope. I have no doubt that INFI is tougher than 3V, so the big question is which one holds a better edge.

Of course if you wish to test toughness we can do that as well, but I have a feeling your Fehrman would do as well as the one Cliff tested and BROKE doing things that he did with his Batlemistress hundreds of times. Cliff stated later on that it may have been a burned edge from the factory causing it to be weak. So which is it, poor quality or just not that tough. You stated Fehrman has better quality but here we are in a quandry. You can't have it both ways. Either it is no where near as tough as INFI or Fehrmans quality is less than Busse. In any case you can redeem the Fehrman now.
 
"Just as tough" often means that they could do anything with a Fehrman or a knife of 3V that they would want or need to do with Busse INFI. That's a valid point to me, also being that 3V holds a great edge, but if you get right down to beating a knife to absolute death.....3V is not "just as tough". It's damn tough! It's tough enough! but damn sure not tough enough to be "just as tough" as INFI.

INFI and those who love it sure seem to rub people wrong.
 
Cobalt said:
Hey Sodak, I see you live in Colorado. So do I. How about you put your Fehrman against my Battle Mistress. We can do a bunch of tests including chopping 2x4's cutting cardboard etc. Lets see which steel holds an edge longer. Hell, we can buy a ton of manilla rope and try that. But you can imagine right, INFI has already proven in public it can go to over 3000 cuts and still shave so that will be a lot of rope. I have no doubt that INFI is tougher than 3V, so the big question is which one holds a better edge.

Of course if you wish to test toughness we can do that as well, but I have a feeling your Fehrman would do as well as the one Cliff tested and BROKE doing things that he did with his Batlemistress hundreds of times. Cliff stated later on that it may have been a burned edge from the factory causing it to be weak. So which is it, poor quality or just not that tough. You stated Fehrman has better quality but here we are in a quandry. You can't have it both ways. Either it is no where near as tough as INFI or Fehrmans quality is less than Busse. In any case you can redeem the Fehrman now.
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Seems like that'd make a great youtube video
 
You could compare apples to oranges....Busse is still #1! Haha.
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It very well may be but there still should be qualifiers such as "Busse is number #1 at...."

If it's toughness than say that. If abrasive wear resistance is meant than be specific. Being as steels are compromises of attribute performance and in industry sometimes cost there is no steel that is the best performer at everything. Everything you need, or everything you prefer sure but it's impossible for one steel to do everything best. If it was possible there wouldn't be the need for thousands of different steels. That is fact.

Joe
 
Jerry Busse said:
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That being said, we have always noted that there are many great knives made out out of many great steels out there. :thumbup: There are some that can hold a better edge than ours, there are some that are tougher, some that are more corrosion resistant, etc. . . but we have yet to encounter any that can match us across the board.
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The Mastiff said:
It very well may be but there still should be qualifiers such as "Busse is number #1 at...."

If it's toughness than say that. If abrasive wear resistance is meant than be specific. Being as steels are compromises of attribute performance and in industry sometimes cost there is no steel that is the best performer at everything. Everything you need, or everything you prefer sure but it's impossible for one steel to do everything best. If it was possible there wouldn't be the need for thousands of different steels. That is fact.

Joe
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The above snip is from a post in this thread that was a reply to a post of yours.
Maybe you missed it.
Jerry has never said it was #1 at any one thing. Its the balance of several attributes that makes some feel its #1.
Take care.
 
Well technically cobalt is saying infi has better edge holding than 3v, that's false, at least in my uses. So cobalt is saying its number 1. Infi can't hold a candle to 3v cutting webbing, or skinning an elk, I should know I've used it extensively. I butcher several pigs a year, hunt every year, and skin plenty of animals. Infi doesn't hold up to that use, no where near 3v in my use. It's much easier to touch up, it's tougher, just doesn't have the edge retention plain and simple, neither does sr101, last year we butchered 2 cows, my swamp rats constantly needed a touch up skinning them, my fehrman held up much better. Just my experience, no clue where cobalt is getting that 3v doesn't hold an edge as good as infi.
 
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