Brands comparable to busse

[Czechmate]

Man, I regret getting rid of this knife.

 

[Ankerson]

Well technically cobalt is saying infi has better edge holding than 3v, that's false, at least in my uses. So cobalt is saying its number 1. Infi can't hold a candle to 3v cutting webbing, or skinning an elk, I should know I've used it extensively. I butcher several pigs a year, hunt every year, and skin plenty of animals. Infi doesn't hold up to that use, no where near 3v in my use. It's much easier to touch up, it's tougher, just doesn't have the edge retention plain and simple, neither does sr101, last year we butchered 2 cows, my swamp rats constantly needed a touch up skinning them, my fehrman held up much better. Just my experience, no clue where cobalt is getting that 3v doesn't hold an edge as good as infi.

In short INFI won't and it's not really supposed to either based on alloy content, neither will SR101 (52100).

Different steels for different types of uses.

 

[Lycosa]

NO regrets....

 

[The Mastiff]

The above snip is from a post in this thread that was a reply to a post of yours.
Maybe you missed it.
Jerry has never said it was #1 at any one thing. Its the balance of several attributes that makes some feel its #1.
Take care.

Ken, I wasn't talking about anything Jerry said. I feel he has been honest in every statement he has made that I've seen. He chooses his words pretty carefully and when he talks I don't even feel any need to fact check.

I've stated before I wouldn't still own Infi and SR101 if I didn't like them. I'm just not a big believer in any single steel being the best because there are so many different requirements. Best for Me is different though. No one can tell someone their favorite steel isn't the best for them. That would be like telling someone their favorite beer, or sandwich is wrong.

Joe

 

[rodriguez7]

In short INFI won't and it's not really supposed to either based on alloy content, neither will SR101 (52100).

Different steels for different types of uses.

I know that, but some people will say infi will last longer. Half the carbides of 3v.

 

[Ankerson]

I know that, but some people will say infi will last longer. Half the carbides of 3v.

I think a lot of that is like the stories like those miracle 420 HC knives that skinned and dressed a whole state worth of game and never needed sharpening.

Well you know the stories, we all have heard them.

 

[Aias]

In short INFI won't and it's not really supposed to either based on alloy content, neither will SR101 (52100).

Different steels for different types of uses.

Hey Jim,

If I remember correctly, I recall you writing that SR101 has better edge retention that infi... I think that is the consensus, generally, as well. Is that right in your estimation?

Thanks man. Anthony

 

[Ankerson]

Hey Jim,

If I remember correctly, I recall you writing that SR101 has better edge retention that infi... I think that is the consensus, generally, as well. Is that right in your estimation? Thanks man. Anthony

Never really compared them directly for edge retention, formally that is.

Kinda difficult due to the geometry of the blades.

 

[Aias]

Never really compared them directly for edge retention, formally that is.

Kinda difficult due to the geometry of the blades.

That's kinda what I suspected--but there is so much 'info' thrown around that it is difficult to tell. Thanks--

 

[A.L.]

Busse announced a run of sr101(?) battle grade TGLB.. So now is another change to get one for less price.

 

[zombieassassin]

I can attest to the fact that Busse stands by their warranty. And with the Boss Man himself chiming in, I bet he made a few believers right there. Busse Combat was a stranger to me about 2 years ago when I owned a bunch of different knives like Tops, Ontario, Benchmade, Cold Steel....then I saw the light and ordered a Busse TGLB. Sold all but my Strider SMF, now I only own AND USE Busse Kin.

 

[jbmonkey]

you'd have to ask Crom.

 

[Gravelface]

Fehrman makes a tough knife. But I won't buy anymore (unless helluva deal) the corrosion resistance is lacking and my extreme judgment is pitted terribly.

Custom makers are always great options. Kelsey Creek and Siegle are absolute excellent knife makers.

But I do like my Busses.

 

[sodak]

Hey Sodak, I see you live in Colorado. So do I. How about you put your Fehrman against my Battle Mistress. We can do a bunch of tests including chopping 2x4's cutting cardboard etc. Lets see which steel holds an edge longer. Hell, we can buy a ton of manilla rope and try that. But you can imagine right, INFI has already proven in public it can go to over 3000 cuts and still shave so that will be a lot of rope. I have no doubt that INFI is tougher than 3V, so the big question is which one holds a better edge.

Of course if you wish to test toughness we can do that as well, but I have a feeling your Fehrman would do as well as the one Cliff tested and BROKE doing things that he did with his Batlemistress hundreds of times. Cliff stated later on that it may have been a burned edge from the factory causing it to be weak. So which is it, poor quality or just not that tough. You stated Fehrman has better quality but here we are in a quandry. You can't have it both ways. Either it is no where near as tough as INFI or Fehrmans quality is less than Busse. In any case you can redeem the Fehrman now.

Not a chance. If I do this testing, I'm doing both myself. I don't need your "help". I have my own Battle Mistress and others to test. But I'll be testing against a highly optimized knife, not a Fehrman. You will never dictate the terms of how I test a knife to me.

Plus, there's nothing to redeem with Fehrman, there is no quandary. I couldn't care less what Cliff had said. All knives break with significant abuse. Or, based on this picture, should you also condemn Busse?

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q203/sodak_photos/testing/2zr2vqw_zpsdrwffx5f.jpg

I have already said, I like my Busse's but I don't think they are the "ultimate" by any means. And I'll continue to say so.

If they are so tough, where are the lab results and charpy tests? I notice you keep ducking that question.

 

[Gravelface]

That knife was modified / worked on. Not factory fresh.

 

[sodak]

That knife was modified / worked on. Not factory fresh.

It appears to be polished, which should make it stronger if it takes out stress risers. But that's my point, 1 failure doesn't indict a brand. The fact that this one (or any one) broke means nothing.

 

[extralargeblades]

Miller bros blade...

 

[DeadboxHero]

"Just as tough" often means that they could do anything with a Fehrman or a knife of 3V that they would want or need to do with Busse INFI. That's a valid point to me, also being that 3V holds a great edge, but if you get right down to beating a knife to absolute death.....3V is not "just as tough". It's damn tough! It's tough enough! but damn sure not tough enough to be "just as tough" as INFI.

INFI and those who love it sure seem to rub people wrong.

No worries. Gratuitous knife pic!

Just when I was about to tease about the pink Native, I saw the loaded glock mag *gulp*


Hahaha

 

[craytab]

Just when I was about to tease about the pink Native, I saw the loaded glock mag *gulp*


Hahaha

Also notice the two boxes of ammo above it! It is my daughters and just like the rest of them it requires sharpening once and a while.

 

[Gravelface]

It appears to be polished, which should make it stronger if it takes out stress risers. But that's my point, 1 failure doesn't indict a brand. The fact that this one (or any one) broke means nothing.

"Appears" it could have been heated to the point of ruining the factory heat treatment then "polished". We don't know. But I understand your point.

I appreciate all my knives, different materials for different purposes for different conditions. I'd lean your way as far as skinning that the Fehrman would outlast most Busse blades....there's some that were hardened a couple extra points ( the model escapes me) But when it comes to toughness and ability to go through harder mediums without damage, the Busse would win all day.