Busse vs Spartan Blades vs Esee

I own Beckers, ESEEs, and Swamp Rats, I have used some Busse knives of all those my choice is Swamp Rat. My Rats do every single thing better than the Beckers and ESEEs and are 95% of what a Busse can do at 50% of the cost. Every time I see a thread like this my answer is always the same just get a Ratmandu.

As far as warranties go on paper the ESEE is a better warranty however Busse and Swamp Rat will replace a knife if you decide to do something dumb. Jerry has replaced knives where people have broken them on purpose and I have zero doubt in my mind that if I go out and break a Rat just to have a cool story to tell Josh (Hindsight here on the forums and the ring leader of the Swamp) would say it was awesome and replace the knife.
 
Ankerson said:
Busse has replaced knives that were broken on purpose......

Search the Busse forum.... ;)

The search feature is your friend........

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+1

I remember a few threads in which people have broken their Busses intentionally and even posted pics of themselves doing it and Jerry has sent them replacements. This thread seems to be attracting a lot of stupid people who don't know what they're talking about. Primarily people who can't afford a Busse therefore feel the need to try and bash on people who can.

I have owned and used both ESEE and Busse knives along with so many other reputable fixed blade brands. I know what I'm talking about from personal experience.
 
Ankerson said:
I seriously doubt it...... Because it wouldn't technically be their knife anymore so they don't have to warranty it...
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They don't care what you do, but for some reason you just can't process that.

There are plenty of examples found online, including the SMKW example above, but here is another. Some moron destroyed his ESEE 5 on purpose, then posted it with full disclosure in the ESEE forums. When someone questioned whether ESEE would replace it, here is Jeff's response....

We get this idiocy every once in a while. We will replace the knife if he sends the pieces back.


I won't post a link to another forum, google for yourself.
 
PatrickKnight said:
I own Beckers, ESEEs, and Swamp Rats, I have used some Busse knives of all those my choice is Swamp Rat. My Rats do every single thing better than the Beckers and ESEEs and are 95% of what a Busse can do at 50% of the cost. Every time I see a thread like this my answer is always the same just get a Ratmandu.
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The RMD is very nice knife, not too thick, not too thin, good steel, feels good in hand, great balance.
 
straitr said:
They don't care what you do, but for some reason you just can't process that.

There are plenty of examples found online, including the SMKW example above, but here is another. Some moron destroyed his ESEE 5 on purpose, then posted it with full disclosure in the ESEE forums. When someone questioned whether ESEE would replace it, here is Jeff's response....

We get this idiocy every once in a while. We will replace the knife if he sends the pieces back.


I won't post a link to another forum, google for yourself.
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I have seen the treads..... ;)

Busse has done the same thing more than once.....
 
Ankerson said:
Busse has replaced knives that were broken on purpose......

Search the Busse forum.... ;)

The search feature is your friend........

Read MORE, post LESS......
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Lmao. I have 54 posts in 3 years to include this one, half of which has been trying to help you with reading comprehension.

Me - 18 posts a year.

You - 1250 per year.

You probably can't understand that either. ;)
 
straitr said:
Lmao. I have 54 posts in 3 years to include this one, half of which has been trying to help you with reading comprehension.

Me - 18 posts a year.

You - 1250 per year.

You probably can't understand that either. ;)
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Read MORE, post LESS.....

54 is a little on the high side or so it seems...
 
C_Becker said:
Seems to me that neither assumption is backed up by facts
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Did you see the guy who hammered his TGLB into his driveway? Did you see the closeup pics afterwards of the tip? It didn't even get dull in the very least.

Try doing that with a Schrade and you will not have a tip anymore. That's all the facts that you need son.
 
Eesh... No offense, but intentionally trying to break a knife for fun just doesn't seem smart. I can understand trying to test it out to see what the breaking point is in order to show others, but at least that has a purpose to it. Just trying to bust it up and get a replacement seems like a dick move. It's pretty awesome to see that these makers will replace knives that are shot to hell, and I'm hoping that the warranty isn't taken advantage of.

So it's pretty well established that Busse and its kin are pretty awesome knives. I'm looking at the Rodent 3 and am pretty tempted to pull the trigger on that in the near future. How's it stack up for cutting, edge retention, ability to take abuse, and overall feel?
 
straitr said:
Then why would you say they won't replace it? You don't make any sense man.
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It's totally up to them what they will do or not, their choice on a case per case basis....

Same as Busse, they make a choice.......

Never said they won't replace it, I said wait and see what happens, that's not exactly the same thing.....

It's possible they might NOT replace a knife depending on what the circumstances were if it was broken on purpose.....

NOBODY can speak for the companies except people who work for them...
 
Metal Made Fox said:
Try doing that with a Schrade and you will not have a tip anymore. That's all the facts that you need son.
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First of all, I not your son, so stop that bulls*
Second, I guess you haven't tried it with a Schrade, so all you are doing is talking about things you haven't tried. Those are not facts.
I'm not saying that Schrade makes better knives than Busse, they don't. But lets keep the hyperbole and the fanboyism to a minimum and stick to the facts.
 
Wolf1775 said:
Eesh... No offense, but intentionally trying to break a knife for fun just doesn't seem smart. I can understand trying to test it out to see what the breaking point is in order to show others, but at least that has a purpose to it. Just trying to bust it up and get a replacement seems like a dick move. It's pretty awesome to see that these makers will replace knives that are shot to hell, and I'm hoping that the warranty isn't taken advantage of.

So it's pretty well established that Busse and its kin are pretty awesome knives. I'm looking at the Rodent 3 and am pretty tempted to pull the trigger on that in the near future. How's it stack up for cutting, edge retention, ability to take abuse, and overall feel?
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Strider had to change their warranty due to complete idiots.....

I hope that Busse and EESE don't have to do the same some day...
 
knife chop said:
I haven't seen an SR101 or infi with a comparable grind like the 2nd production run of the GSO 10. I know for a fact that busse's thick grind is the reason why it rare that you see busse with a big chip or roll.
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I'm too lazy to search for the thread right now, but Jerry Busse has stated that they have done extensive testing with 3V with the intention of possibly switching to that steel had it performed well enough. They never switched.
 
Metal Made Fox said:
+1

I remember a few threads in which people have broken their Busses intentionally and even posted pics of themselves doing it and Jerry has sent them replacements. This thread seems to be attracting a lot of stupid people who don't know what they're talking about. Primarily people who can't afford a Busse therefore feel the need to try and bash on people who can.

I have owned and used both ESEE and Busse knives along with so many other reputable fixed blade brands. I know what I'm talking about from personal experience.
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Yeah I know.... Shills...... ;)
 
Metal Made Fox said:
+1

I remember a few threads in which people have broken their Busses intentionally and even posted pics of themselves doing it and Jerry has sent them replacements. This thread seems to be attracting a lot of stupid people who don't know what they're talking about. Primarily people who can't afford a Busse therefore feel the need to try and bash on people who can.

I have owned and used both ESEE and Busse knives along with so many other reputable fixed blade brands. I know what I'm talking about from personal experience.
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Everyone can quit the internet, Metal Made Fox is here, he's owned both and knows what he's talking about! Stupid people.

Like Ankerson, who gave you the internet high five for the above comments, I can't imagine you'll comprehend any of this either, but I feel like wasting my time so here goes...

If you read Busse's website it does not say they will replace any knife for any reason. Leave ESEE out, it doesn't matter, we're talking about Busse. Their warranty states unintentional coverage, so what they've done for fan boys on BF's is irrelevant to the customer who doesn't spend time here and only gets his information DIRECTLY from the company website. I'm glad they've made exceptions for folks, they sound like a cool bunch, but they're just that, exceptions, otherwise their website warranty information would read differently.
 
straitr said:
Everyone can quit the internet, Metal Made Fox is here, he's owned both and knows what he's talking about! Stupid people.

Like Ankerson, who gave you the internet high five for the above comments, I can't imagine you'll comprehend any of this either, but I feel like wasting my time so here goes...

If you read Busse's website it does not say they will replace any knife for any reason. Leave ESEE out, it doesn't matter, we're talking about Busse. Their warranty states unintentional coverage, so what they've done for fan boys on BF's is irrelevant to the customer who doesn't spend time here and only gets his information DIRECTLY from the company website. I'm glad they've made exceptions for folks, they sound like a cool bunch, but they're just that, exceptions, otherwise their website warranty information would read differently.
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Can you read?

Or is it selective comprehension.....?

Posted the warranty again, and even high lighted the section you keep missing.... The Warranty is only a few sentences really so it shouldn't be too hard to understand or get through it... ;)


OUR GUARANTEE

Busse Knife Group is proud to have the toughest warranty in the industry.

All Busse Knife Group blades are guaranteed for life against any and all unintentional MAJOR damage. Your knife will either be repaired or replaced at our discretion.

Please note that aftermarket modifications done to your knife outside of our shop that cause your knife to fail may void your warranty.

Busse Knife Group encourages extreme usage of our blades as they are without question "The Toughest Knives in the World". We have no rivals. You can use a Busse Knife Group blade as hard as you like and our warranty has you covered.
 
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