Can anyone here make this knife for me?

So was looking at the knives that I have posted above, all of which is made so that thumb can rest comfortably on the spine.
Here are the lengths:
Vox Mini - 1.5"
Swick - 2"
Subcom F - 1.88"

So how long is this blade from the edge of the hole closest to the blade, to the tip of the blade.
I'm at work right now. I'll handle my knife some more to get a better idea.
 
Another thing. From handling my knife, it can slip a little while holding it with index and bird fingers in the holes and when the knife is held in push knife mode. It may be a good idea to put a little file work on the thumb recess. In push dagger mode, your thumb will rest on the spine that lies parallel to the holes. It would be very useful to maybe put file work along that edge as well. I would like to get some input from everyone about this suggestion.
 
it looks like on the one that i shortend it is 1 5/16" hat is after i cut off 1/2. i think not having a thumb rest was why this design did not do to well.
 
I just read that the HAK's average blade length is 2", and that is a well thought out knife. And I feel it is the knife that has the design closest to the one we are working on. I think it will be very important the get the blade length right. That is what will be the deciding factor whether the knife fits the hand correctly or not.
 
one thing is that im using 3ds max to do the modleing and im just going off what looks good and gessing the size, so its very hard to realy tell true size. so i am going to get out the graph paper and do some mock ups and see what it looks like.
 
I made a drawing and did my best using my imagination about holding this knife. Here is my conclusion. The thumb recess is not necessary because the thumb will end up directly on the spine of the knife. And with that being said, for your thumb to comfortably rest on the spine, the length of the blade starting from the edge of the far left hole in the pics will have to be closer to 2 inches. And yes, that will give you a knife with a total length of 4-4.5 inches long, which still very compact. Larger than the original design, but a much improved design. A very usable design.
 
O and befor i forget, what total length do we need to keep it to. i mean we dont want it to end up being to long, i was thinking around a hair less than 5" long from tip to butt and 2 " wide. it seames like this is a decent size and not to big but this style of knife gives us a the most blade for total length. if the knife was 5" long we would get a 3 1/4 edge which is quite good considered that most other knives in this catorgory are 2" and under. i like a longer blade in generial and since im probabley not going to be whearing this around my neck 3" is ok.
 
thats funny we posted at the same time, i like the thumb recess because if where going to do a kydex sheath that recess will help keep the blade in. also it adds some curves to the knife and makes it pleasing to the eyes. i like my knives like i like my woman lots of curves in the right places. hehehe
 
Good points JTknives. I think this knife will be able to fit the bill on so many levels. I think it can be a compact knife that has ergonomics and useability of a larger knife. And true, because of the design, this knife has a lot of edge.
According to my crappy drawing, I think the knife can be kept under 5". Also going with a capsule hole, we can shave off a 1/4" or so off the knife.
I want to be able to carry this as a neck knife, so I want to keep this knife as small as possible but still keep it ergonomically correct.
 
Oh yeah! BAD ASS!!!
Got any aluminum or even wood or plastic.. How about making a blank and see how it fits.
 
JTknives, just some info. I measured the knife that I have, and it has a total length of 3.5 inches. In fact, just as B Finnigan posted before, it doesn't not exceed the measurements of a credit card. Just from holding the knife and placing my thumb on some tape measure, it looks like 4.5 inches will be comfortable.
 
I've been looking over the models and for me personally I think the 4 1/2" length looks like overkill but like you said it's hard to tell without actually handling it.I definitely think the file work on the thumb rest is a good idea though.If I had to choose I think I'd go with the four inch length but that's just me.I think I'd also stay with the individual finger holes as well.I think you'd get a better grip and I'd be afraid of slippage with that pill hole design
Hey JT great work on the models and I like the new valor standard (bottom pic pg 7) although I'd like to see one with the back hole and slot seperated.Any chance of modeling one with a spear point blade ?
 
what i was thinking is that if i incressed the angle of the tip from 45 to somthing more we can keep the larger thumb rest but have a shorter blade as well as a shorter knife. no problem ill modle them tonight.
 
ok here are the sketches, i cant wait to start one of these knives tomarow

#13a, #13b
valor sketch 1.jpg


#14
valor sketch 2.jpg


#15
valor sketch 3.jpg
 
#13a, #13b are just a hair under 5" long and 2" wide

#14 and #15 are 4" long by 2" wide.

the grid you see is just graph paper where 5 lines is one inch. but being a dumb ass i did #13a and #13b on the back side of the paper so when i scaned them you can not see the grid.
 
Again,nice work on the models JT.I really appreciate the effort you've put forth in what must be a time consuming process.I like #14 the best but I'd want it with finger holes not the pill hole..I really like the shape conforming slot on #14 also.
 
That #14 is one mean looking blade. Those are some sweet models. I don't want to be too much of an ass, but I would want a knife that combines the two models. I also think it is my final thoughts as well. I think this is it.
I am going with the pill hole. And I also want the shorter blade. So basically I want the #14 handle with the #15 blade, but with no thumb recess. As I said before. the thumb recess is on the wrong place. If there is going to be one a thumb recess at all, it will be on the angled portion of the blade, but since it is already angled, I don't think a recess is necessary at all.
So JTknives, if I'm the first in line, I am ready when you are.
 
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