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Professionally speaking, I'd be pounding on the "Dislike/Disapprove" button if such a creature existed!! :eek::thumbsdown::mad: :rolleyes:

- GT
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If I may Gary, as your a teacher of math on the higher end of the spectrum, what you think of the common core. I think I understand that its designed to get students to learn HOW and WHY a math formula works, not just THAT it works. But to me the best way I can describe it, is its like requiring someone to know the theory of how an internal combustion engine works to own a car. For most regular people they don't need to know HOW it works just THAT it works. Granted I don't have a head for numbers math wasn't my best subject. I don't do it with words but I often see and or write numbers backwards, especially the two digets in the middle of a 4 diget number. 5678 becomes 5768 to me when I write it down. Don't know why.Lol but in my current line of work I do end up adding and subtracting and dividing fractions pretty often;):thumbsup: thanks
 
I'm not GT, but I did stay in a Holiday Inn...

Common Core doesn't work as well in Math as it does in other subject areas. The idea of Common Core is for the student to gain "depth of knowledge" and it allows teachers to return to the idea of units. In other words, they can focus on specific areas of the curriculum and spend more time there taking the students' knowledge further and being able to use the information in projects and performance tasks. The problem with math is you can't skip areas because everything is tiered and relies on prior knowledge.

If you look at US History, you'd learn from the birth of the country to current times, which is a lot of material to cover. You'd learn it in elementary school, then again in middle school, and then again in high school, covering about 20 chapters each time. Now they have split it up so you learn the begining in elementary school, the middle in middle school, and finally the end in high school, covering only 7 chapters each time. Not as much material to cover means you can spend a lot more time on the areas that you do cover and the student will hopefully learn it more completely.

Now even though math is split up and builds on itself each year, it's always been done that way and there is just WAY too much material to cover each year to get the students to the end game.
 
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Thanks, like I said math isn't my strong point anyways, but from what I seen of common core looked very confusing. To use mechanics as and example again, looked like handing someone a box of tools and a box of parts that if assembled properly would produce a functional lawnmower engine, but not teaching them how to use the tools. I can see how skipping areas in math is a bad idea, if you don't know how to use the tools how can you get results. I'd also seen where it was about learning theory, and not memorizing formulas. That's where I say for the everyday person you don't need to know how the lawnmower works to cut grass. You just need to know enough to make it work.
 
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Thanks, like I said math isn't my strong point anyways, but from what I seen of common core looked very confusing. To use mechanics as and example again, looked like handing someone a box of tools and a box of parts that if assembled properly would produce a functional lawnmower engine, but not teaching them how to use the tools. I can see how skipping areas in math is a bad idea, if you don't know how to use the tools how can you get results. I'd also seen where it was about learning theory, and not memorizing formulas. That's where I say for the everyday person you don't need to know how the lawnmower works to cut grass. You just need to know enough to make it work.
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If someone would've just given me a calculator when I was a kid, I would've only taught myself how to do simple addition, subtraction, division and multiplication. I would've never known that I could calculate the actual angle of a house roof that slopes 1" over 12" by taking the arc-tangent of 1/12 ;) I'm a structural engineer and use a ton of math on a daily basis, mostly linear algebra, some polynomials and the occasional calculus. If it wasn't for the enthusiasm that my high school algebra teacher had, I'm not sure which route I would've gone from there. So I guess my point is, if you don't teach the theory behind algebra, trigonometry, calculus, statistics, etc., how do you know you won't like it, or be very good at it? Same goes for the inner workings of a combustion engine... if that was taught to me in my high school and I loved everything about it, I could be waking up tomorrow morning and going to rebuild that lawnmower engine :D:thumbsup: Sometimes you might have to learn things to know for sure that you don't like it o_O Sort of like when I tried watching Dancing With the Stars :D
 
leghog said:
My wife has two sisters and a niece and her kids in Panama City. Hunkered down in the more inland house of the three. Haven't been able to reach them for nearly 6 hours.
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Praying they are ok. This storm is fierce.
 
JaxBaron said:
Glad to hear its almost over. I live in Jacksonville,Fl and we are suppose to get rain/ winds tonight. Hopefully nothing crazy. This Hurricane is a absolute beast.
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It is the second this year to shave by here. This one hit a lot harder and deeper into land. It is going to take out a lot of people’s power.
 
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